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Possible increase of heart attack risk after mRNA vaccine.

I'm sure there's a law somewhere about spitting on sidewalks but that hardly compares
to forced vaccination for a disease that mainly attacks unhealthy older seniors.
You're straining to make the comparison. This is how countries turn communist.
They weasel their way in with promises of utopia and it always ends in dictatorship.
You do not understand the word communist. Covid hits 50 and over. The risk escalates with age. The majority of that population has underlying conditions. It is very difficult to protect some of the population (for instance a vaccinated 80-year-old has the same risk as an unvaccinated 50-year-old). The goal of public health is to protect the entire population. You are focused on yourself and what risk YOU will take. We do not write off the elderly and those with underlying conditions. Individual rights are always subject to restriction. Rights do not stand alone. They come with duties.
 
But an invasive procedure is a line which may never be crossed. We always must have the last say regarding our own bodies.
Access to public transit, schools, stores ... those can have requirements.
But vaccination, surgery, drugs ... must never be mandated.

Perhaps ... perhaps, a vaccination mandate is something that could be considered for an especially severe and contagious illness.
 
The number of engineers in the disinformation camp here is remarkable. We all know they suffer from linear thinking but this isn't linear thinking. This is the adoption of conspiracy theory to explain what they cannot understand. You take them out of their regimented area of expertise and they are like flopping fish on the shore.
Good thing we have people like you who know whats best, to save the world from all these dingbats. How dare they don't believe and obey the experts!
 
But an invasive procedure is a line which may never be crossed. We always must have the last say regarding our own bodies.
Access to public transit, schools, stores ... those can have requirements.
But vaccination, surgery, drugs ... must never be mandated.

Perhaps ... perhaps, a vaccination mandate is something that could be considered for an especially severe and contagious illness.
Interested in your views on ultrasound being required before abortion or forced birth due to the lack of abortion options. Also, you act like a vaccine has never been required before?
 
LOL.. Forcing someone to believe in a religion is not "spitting on sidewalks"..
You're pretending to be a victim. That law has never been enforced.

“Found at the end of Article VI, the provision does more than simply guarantee the right of everyone to hold federal office, regardless of what they believe or don’t believe about God – it also strongly debunks the Religious Right’s ‘Christian nation’ claims,” Boston writes. “After all, why would the Founding Fathers have guaranteed the right of Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists and others to hold public office if they sought an officially Christian nation?”
 
You're pretending to be a victim. That law has never been enforced.

“Found at the end of Article VI, the provision does more than simply guarantee the right of everyone to hold federal office, regardless of what they believe or don’t believe about God – it also strongly debunks the Religious Right’s ‘Christian nation’ claims,” Boston writes. “After all, why would the Founding Fathers have guaranteed the right of Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists and others to hold public office if they sought an officially Christian nation?”
ROFLMAO.

You completely missed the point.. Right over your head.. now that's funny...
 
The premise of much of the conspiracy theory here is that big pharma pulls strings in the background. I think that one would be extremely naive to deny their outsized influence. However, I also think they are smart. They have plenty of ways to game the system without making an outright grab in one of the most scrutinized periods of medical and pharma history. The potential for this to backfire on big pharma is huge and their opportunity to create lasting goodwill looms even larger. All they need to do here is play a long game and do it straight. There are teams of actual scientists, epidemiologists, immunologists, biochemists, and infectious disease doctors watching their every move. Contrary to the view kicked around here my experience is that most health care workers and scientists are actually good people that want to cure and find cures. The underlying science here is available and heavily scrutinized. Believe the consensus of experts.
 
Chit Chat group analogy.

Victron and other BIG ELECTRONICS are hiding from you that you can use your tongue as a multimeter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why won't they admit this???? I will never buy a multimeter this is the road to dictatorship and communism and a lot of other bad-sounding stuff I do not understand.
 
Yes, I know the public usually wants the government to spend money on things for them. Someone else can pay for it.

I also remember the polls showed Hillary would win by a large margin.

If nothing else, polls are limited to response from people willing to participate in a poll. I prefer to do so only at the polls.
Or who they choose to poll..............
 
Yup, those money grubbing communists who are trying to get money into the 1% hands and shit on the little guy.... err.. hrm
Merck's new drug just took a hit having to drop the new drug efficacy from 50% to 30% after further trials. No one starts a blog about that because it is not in a right-wing blog. It also completely undermines the talking point that a big pharma company can steamroll the FDA and falsify trials.
 
Merck's new drug just took a hit having to drop the new drug efficacy from 50% to 30% after further trials. No one starts a blog about that because it is not in a right-wing blog. It also completely undermines the talking point that a big pharma company can steamroll the FDA and falsify trials.
They are trying to cover their tracks now that those not afraid to hear the truth have refused to be silent and are bravely speaking truth despite the ominous omnipotent pharm giants of the north.
 
If I was big pharma, it wouldn't take a whole bunch of math to figure out that I'd make more money selling life saving treatment drugs to the hospitals to threat people being sick with covid, then I would from making a cheap vaccine that the gov purchases in bulk quantities.

And on top of that, the lingering health affects of severe covid sickness would further boost my company's profits.

But ignorant people don't think more than one or two steps in front of their nose.. so a conspiracy is better and easier to understand..
 
If I was big pharma, it wouldn't take a whole bunch of math to figure out that I'd make more money selling life saving treatment drugs to the hospitals to threat people being sick with covid, then I would from making a cheap vaccine that the gov purchases in bulk quantities.

And on top of that, the lingering health affects of severe covid sickness would further boost my company's profits.

But ignorant people don't think more than one or two steps in front of their nose.. so a conspiracy is better and easier to understand..
As I mentioned in an earlier post, I read the book "The Death Of Expertise" by Tom Nichols. There is a perfect storm of psychological phenomena underlying our current situation but one of them is simply the need for certainty and/or an agent of evil to villainize when you combine fear and uncertainty. You can see in many of the posts attacking science and the vaccine, an underlying demand for certainty (about the effectiveness of the vaccine, masks, distancing) that simply cannot be given in the face of an unknown. That void is filled by conspiracy and a belief that answers do exist. Someone must be to blame! Add to that the tribalism and the politicization of this issue and it is no wonder we have threads like this. Experts are not always right and this is especially true when making educated guesses about prospective outcomes. However, experts, especially the consensus of experts, are correct much more often than the anxious masses or right-wing blogs trying to get hits.
 
As I mentioned in an earlier post, I read the book "The Death Of Expertise" by Tom Nichols. There is a perfect storm of psychological phenomena underlying our current situation but one of them is simply the need for certainty and/or an agent of evil to villainize when you combine fear and uncertainty. You can see in many of the posts attacking science and the vaccine, an underlying demand for certainty (about the effectiveness of the vaccine, masks, distancing) that simply cannot be given in the face of an unknown. That void is filled by conspiracy and a belief that answers do exist. Someone must be to blame! Add to that the tribalism and the politicization of this issue and it is no wonder we have threads like this. Experts are not always right and this is especially true when making educated guesses about prospective outcomes. However, experts, especially the consensus of experts, are correct much more often than the anxious masses or right-wing blogs trying to get hits.
For people who think morality is objective they will often search for absolutes, black and white boxes where they can neatly sort everything in their lives to keep their worldview intact and orderly. Life is messy, not knowing something with certainty is reality, striving to understand and uncover more as you seek to narrow down possibilities is the essence of open minded scientific inquiry.
 
If I was big pharma, it wouldn't take a whole bunch of math to figure out that I'd make more money selling life saving treatment drugs to the hospitals to threat people being sick with covid, then I would from making a cheap vaccine that the gov purchases in bulk quantities.

And on top of that, the lingering health affects of severe covid sickness would further boost my company's profits.

But ignorant people don't think more than one or two steps in front of their nose.. so a conspiracy is better and easier to understand..
You'd best stick to electrical engineering and let big Pharma do what it knows best : screw over the little guy while making a fortune.
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Pfizer's latest earnings report notes that Comirnaty profits are split 50-50 with BioNTech. The companies expect the vaccine to bring in revenues of approximately $15 billion in 2021. Pfizer and BioNTech plan to supply up to 1.3 billion doses of the vaccine worldwide by the end of 2021.

Moderna noted in its fourth quarter earnings report that it expects $18.4 billion in anticipated product sales related to advanced purchased agreements for its vaccine.
 
For people who think morality is objective they will often search for absolutes, black and white boxes where they can neatly sort everything in their lives to keep their worldview intact and orderly. Life is messy, not knowing something with certainty is reality, striving to understand and uncover more as you seek to narrow down possibilities is the essence of open minded scientific inquiry.
LOL, you eat up everything the mainstream media throws at you ! Zero skepticism !
Let's trust Pfizer and make fun of ICU doctors trying to use cheap generics ! They must be quacks !
What a patsy most of you are.
 
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