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Possible increase of heart attack risk after mRNA vaccine.

I just read Bob’s post above that said he was leaving this thread again. Bob is better than some here but he does post bad information. What was really ironic was that he said he was leaving because people don’t read things! Good grief! The entire discussion yesterday was over things he posted without reading and then being forced to defend indefensible conclusions.
I wasn't referencing you with that comment .... that is the one area I actually give you credit .... You actually read that document .... and you seemed to actually be reading information about Uttar Pradesh.
Others just blast away at those who they see as the opposition with no real reference to reality .... make things up.... make incorrect assumptions and on and on .... it's bad for my blood pressure, so I'm outa here.

I hadn't turned off notification for this thread yet .... but am going to do that after this post
 

I liked the whole post, but mainly wanted to comment on the IaaS part, that is too funny, I work on cloud stuff so I can appreciate that hehe... The new model in the software industry is get you hooked on a recurring payment plan, rather than perpetual license that they can only make money off of one time. So true... Subscriptions are the new norm, the gift for them that keeps on giving.


(still reading the rest of that article)
 
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Just one last comment before I turn of notifications for this post .... I have decided ... for now .... that I'm not going to get a booster shot ....... I don't think that is the best decision for everyone.

My daughter is 31 and works in a retail store .... I am recommending that she get the booster since she is prone to getting respiratory infections. I have her well stocked with vitamin D, zinc, vitamin C, and quercetin .... but I'm not sure she takes it as regularly as she should ..... and she has never gone to get her D levels tested. There have been several of her fellow employees who have gotten Covid .... none were serious.

My parents have passed away and I don't have the worry of spreading the disease to them .... I do a home concocted nebulizer treatment as soon as I get home after being in a crowd .... I avoid people.
The one "risky" behavior I have is going to an exercise club .... I go there when it's almost empty ..... they have very good ventilation ..... I do a nebulizer treatment when getting home.

I haven't been here just because I like arguing as it seems for some .... I have a real interest in having my eyes wide open about vaccine risks .... I have learned not to accept blindly what those in power try to feed you.

Everyone's situation is different when it comes to weighing risk VS benefit from the vaccine .... but it is unreasonable to go blissfully along thinking there is no risk from getting it.

Now ... notifications will be off ... Thanks to all who were interested in a genuine sharing of information.
 
You just happened to be paging through your vast supply of medical journals and study data? Someone's been visiting antivax sites. Funny you didn't post about how these changed all of our lives:
1796 smallpox. 1885 rabies. 1890 tetanus. 1896 typhoid fever. 1906 TB. 1923 diphtheria. 1926 whooping cough. 1932 yellow fever. 1937 flu. 1952 polio. 1963 measles. 1967 mumps. 1969 rubella. 1974 chickenpox.




That was a different class of Vax technology. They are not experimental mRNA tech.
 
That was a different class of Vax technology. They are not experimental mRNA tech.
mRNA has been in the works for over 15 years. The selling point was that it could be adapted quickly for new viruses (like in a pandemic). The pandemic comes just as the technology matures and you say "Oh too quick"! Go get the J & J if you like less effective vaccines.
 
Also Omicron looks like it may change the equation on natural immunity.
Look at the trajectory of Omicron, in black, compared to the earlier viruses.
 

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Just one last comment before I turn of notifications for this post .... I have decided ... for now .... that I'm not going to get a booster shot ....... I don't think that is the best decision for everyone.

My daughter is 31 and works in a retail store .... I am recommending that she get the booster since she is prone to getting respiratory infections. I have her well stocked with vitamin D, zinc, vitamin C, and quercetin .... but I'm not sure she takes it as regularly as she should ..... and she has never gone to get her D levels tested. There have been several of her fellow employees who have gotten Covid .... none were serious.

My parents have passed away and I don't have the worry of spreading the disease to them .... I do a home concocted nebulizer treatment as soon as I get home after being in a crowd .... I avoid people.
The one "risky" behavior I have is going to an exercise club .... I go there when it's almost empty ..... they have very good ventilation ..... I do a nebulizer treatment when getting home.

I haven't been here just because I like arguing as it seems for some .... I have a real interest in having my eyes wide open about vaccine risks .... I have learned not to accept blindly what those in power try to feed you.

Everyone's situation is different when it comes to weighing risk VS benefit from the vaccine .... but it is unreasonable to go blissfully along thinking there is no risk from getting it.

Now ... notifications will be off ... Thanks to all who were interested in a genuine sharing of information.
Watch for stats on the booster and Omicron. Still developing but might make your decision easier.
 
Eventually the virus' variants will settle in "nicely" and be like most other viri, contagious, yet mild, and generally non life threatening (except to the utmost vulnerable). Then, itll be onto the next fear factor for everyone to indulge in. Will it be smallpox version 2.0, marburg, super flu? Or something else altogether...
Overall cases mean nothing (especially with a largely vaccinated population) unless alongside extreme loss of life of course. Case loads may not ever come down albeit very slowly (less testing?), but overall death rates (% over time) surely will.

I expect publically acknowledged positive overall cases to start downward trend after December 31st.
 
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Eventually the virus' variants will settle in "nicely" and be like most other viri, contagious, yet mild, and generally non life threatening (except to the utmost vulnerable). Then, itll be onto the next fear factor for everyone to indulge in. Will it be smallpox version 2.0, marburg, super flu? Or something else altogether...
Overall cases mean nothing (especially with a largely vaccinated population) unless alongside extreme loss of life of course. Case loads may not ever come down albeit very slowly, but overall death rates (% over time) surely will.
This is why the vaccine is so important. So that more can live to see the other side of this. Already so many will not.
 
Thanks for wishing me well my friend... ✌️

Like I've told many people, many times, I'm not afraid to die from it, I believe in an afterlife. I don't even care if it causes permanent effects or whatever, I'm not going to live in fear of it, we will all die someday anyways. Living fearfully makes Earth a living hell.

I have a friend who just died a couple months ago of Covid, he left 5 kids and a wife behind. I'm glad I don't have kids right now, it could change the whole way I view my own choices, couldn't say 100%, it's sad those kids will grow up the rest of life without their first Dad, I don't have all the answers, all I can say is that I put my trust in my creator...

In '94, my real Dad died young at age 47 of Lymphoma cancer, and my Mom remarried to a great step-Dad, life still worked out great for her and us kids, he is a great Dad too. Humans always seem to figure out a way back to happiness again.

I just know that I don't want to vaccinate, one of many reasons being, I don't trust Western medicine nor putting any 'ol thing someone says I should take into my body/ bloodstream 'just to be safe', my default answer is no (I'll take my chances), I don't default to yes.
Sad to hear about your friend. I understand the distrust people have for pharmaceutical companies, after all their main goal is to make money. My initial thought is that it wouldn't make sense for them to make medication that kills the patients, but the tobacco industry showed that they are willing to kill their customers. I used to distrust big corporations, and I still do, I also know that we can hold them accountable in the public eye, even if it is not through law suits.

When it comes to the vaccines, statistics show how we are better off with vaccines then without. And with billions of doses administered world wide and the countries agreeing on the safety, I think there is no valid reason not to take the vaccine. I don't want to see people forced to take the vaccine, but I expect health insurance companies will end up giving discounts to people who do take the vaccines. I can see why the military and health care workers could have vaccines mandated, the last thing most people would want is an army incapacitated or health care workers infecting patients.
 
Eventually the virus' variants will settle in "nicely" and be like most other viri, contagious, yet mild, and generally non life threatening (except to the utmost vulnerable). Then, itll be onto the next fear factor for everyone to indulge in. Will it be smallpox version 2.0, marburg, super flu? Or something else altogether...
Overall cases mean nothing (especially with a largely vaccinated population) unless alongside extreme loss of life of course. Case loads may not ever come down albeit very slowly (less testing?), but overall death rates (% over time) surely will.

I expect publically acknowledged positive overall cases to start downward trend after December 31st.
Why would the cases go down after December 31? There is no good reason for them to do so. We are significantly under-vaccinated, with a variant coming that doesn't much care about vaccines or prior infections. To say until "the next fear factor" comes around completely dismisses that 1 in 423 Americans died and that our health care system is at a breaking point. That is the callous voice of privilege.
 
Why would the cases go down after December 31? There is no good reason for them to do so. We are significantly under-vaccinated, with a variant coming that doesn't much care about vaccines or prior infections. To say until "the next fear factor" comes around completely dismisses that 1 in 423 Americans died and that our health care system is at a breaking point. That is the callous voice of privilege.
Possibly the mild cases will primarily recover at home and not be reported. This may already be happening on an increased basis due to vaccinations.
 

Biden Announces COVID Treatment Plan That Mirrors Action Plan of Governor Ron DeSantis​


December 2, 2021 | Sundance | 236 Comments
Earlier today, the White House occupant read a new script put into his teleprompter. The purpose of the script is to outline a new set of federal actions to combat COVID-19 [WH Readout Here]. Within the script prepared for him, the authors noted a new treatment approach that is identical to the COVID mitigation plan put into place by Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.
Biden is proposing federal rapid response teams to set up regional sites where monoclonal antibody treatments can be delivered by outpatient staff. The quick response teams and regional monoclonal antibody treatment sites have been in place in Florida for almost eight months. During his script reading, the White House occupant did not want to give credit to the DeSantis approach, but the federal mitigation protocol is identical.

 
Possibly the mild cases will primarily recover at home and not be reported. This may already be happening on an increased basis due to vaccinations.
Possibly I just don't know why that scenario seems more or less likely than the opposite.
 
This is why the vaccine is so important. So that more can live to see the other side of this. Already so many will not.
Mono-clonol antibody treatment reduces hospitalization by 70% and I would combine ivermectin, zinc, vit C & D and quercetin with this.
If you are high-risk, vaccination may be called for. It should never be mandated.

Just found out KY, TN and one other state made it illegal to ask for your vaccine status.
 
Why would the cases go down after December 31? There is no good reason for them to do so. We are significantly under-vaccinated, with a variant coming that doesn't much care about vaccines or prior infections. To say until "the next fear factor" comes around completely dismisses that 1 in 423 Americans died and that our health care system is at a breaking point. That is the callous voice of privilege.

Aside from the RT-PCR test being retired, it will be likely less economical to rapidly test everyone, false positives will go down as well.
I havent dismissed anything, totally unrelated comment. But, we are all privileged to not be among the people that have succumbed to such a pandemic. Many have woken up to overall health as it pertains to the immune system, and have taken steps, in that respect, I am grateful, as that will do more in the long term than most anything else.
As far as the healthcare system goes, that largely depends on where one lives... many hospitals not just here but across the globe run up to 100% capacity EVERY year through the winter months...i can only hope that need will be filled.

Possibly the mild cases will primarily recover at home and not be reported. This may already be happening on an increased basis due to vaccinations.
Also this.
 

Biden Announces COVID Treatment Plan That Mirrors Action Plan of Governor Ron DeSantis

December 2, 2021 | Sundance | 236 Comments
Earlier today, the White House occupant read a new script put into his teleprompter. The purpose of the script is to outline a new set of federal actions to combat COVID-19 [WH Readout Here]. Within the script prepared for him, the authors noted a new treatment approach that is identical to the COVID mitigation plan put into place by Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.
Biden is proposing federal rapid response teams to set up regional sites where monoclonal antibody treatments can be delivered by outpatient staff. The quick response teams and regional monoclonal antibody treatment sites have been in place in Florida for almost eight months. During his script reading, the White House occupant did not want to give credit to the DeSantis approach, but the federal mitigation protocol is identical.

Ummmm they are very different. De Santis's plan was to do virtually nothing as far as pushing vaccination and masking while relying on a treatment plan only applicable to people that are already sick. They are Far from a miracle drug. Monoclonal antibodies have some benefit but building a strategy around that is criminal. This strategy for public access to monoclonal antibodies has been pushed by experts for months as they are underutilized. Other states are doing this but not to the exclusion of prevention. This is moving to the forefront now as we need quick diagnoses and access to not only monoclonal antibodies but the new oral drugs. They are also setting up a network to be able to do this by virtual appointments.
 
Mono-clonol antibody treatment reduces hospitalization by 70% and I would combine ivermectin, zinc, vit C & D and quercetin with this.
If you are high-risk, vaccination may be called for. It should never be mandated.

Just found out KY, TN and one other state made it illegal to ask for your vaccine status.
Here is Vin Gupta, one of the evil ones, and the HHS pushing monoclonal antibodies back in August of last year. All in all though, one of your least destructive posts in a while. "
Dr. Vin Gupta

@VinGuptaMD


If you or a loved one is unvaxed and exposed to coronavirus, or if you’re high-risk, exposed, and fully vaxed, you may qualify for monoclonal antibodies These are now available by injection and can keep you out of the hospital Please go to http://combatcovid.hhs.gov to learn more
 
Mono-clonol antibody treatment reduces hospitalization by 70% and I would combine ivermectin, zinc, vit C & D and quercetin with this.
If you are high-risk, vaccination may be called for. It should never be mandated.

Just found out KY, TN and one other state made it illegal to ask for your vaccine status.
Here is Fauci back in August pushing monoclonal antibodies.
 
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