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I have 76 panels for 26.22kW DC at the panels and a peak 23kW back to the grid. Sunny boy 3x 6.0 and 1x 5.0. Since we weren't in the house long a large basis of estimate was how the previous owners used power. Big difference between an older couple with grown kids and a young family with...

I took some time to go through and look at the various Meanwell supply's that seem to work. It is really interesting because de-rating's can hurt you quite significantly especially at the 115V line voltage. These are all the fanless supplies by the way. What's interesting is you can get more...

I have thought of possibly doing an opposite east west facing I just don't know if it pays. As it is I have 76 panels that are ground mounted facing due south. In order to maximize my solar production overall my inverters have extra panels installed on them so they seem to peak out longer but I...

I generate about 29MWh (29,000kWh) per year from solar (gross not net). What I attached is my inverter outputs. Basically my solar acts like a bank for the power in the summer and in the winter when my geothermal is really kicking in takes the power out of the account. From November to April...

5 days in February and already out produced January.

That's great to know about the slight audible noise. I have so many other noises going on I know that would never be noticed. I know the exact noise your talking about though. I mean in context I can hear the chargverter OVER an RV AC which is ridiculous.

I believe they all say built in potentiometer's. What's interesting is the HEP-1000-48 still de-rates' quite a bit as well. I do like the fact that the HEP series can be programmed as a charger as well vs a power supply.

Basically here is the diagram I have below. I do wonder about possibly up sizing the inverter(s) possibly? I just don't know how much it buys though. Upsize the 6kW to 7kW and 5kW to 6kW. Max input on my 6kW is right around 6.8kW and Max on the 5kW is 5.43kW input. With efficiencies I maybe...

A few answers on this. Some of which i have pondered as well. 1) I do use the ground loops in the summer for air conditioning with geothermal. So pumping heat in the summer would hurt them. 2) I have thought of this for charging. And have also found out my job offers reasonably low rates for...

1) Absolutely get batteries that communicate. I am planning on hopefully writing my own protocol from my shunt to help me with this. I only did this since I had two lithium ion batteries from before when I just had an inverter on my 30a 120V RV. So buying two more wasn't much of a stretch. 2) I...

Thank you. That is extremely helpful. So the inverters can do closed loop communications with it and it is largely just plug and play then?

So I don't have any issues with over heating in that space in fairness though it's in a main living area so typically the AC would be on which definitely helps cool the unit. It also depends on what mode you're in with the converter. A simple passthrough with shore power tends to keep the unit...

I traditionally use bonding plugs on the generator as well. It would be great if the 6000xp had an option like this: 1) incoming AC power detected removed bonding wire. 2) No AC input bond the neutral and ground. To me it would be a simple software fix.

In my previous RV I had the inverter installed under the kitchen sink area raised up on a platform. This was mainly invented unless the cabinet door was open (rare). You could here the fans but over the noise of everything else it was never an issue. I never had an issue and maybe it was so...

I posted about my build in a thread here: RV build It looks similar to what you're looking for and I am using most of the equipment you have listed. I have a 38' tow behind trailer just as an FYI.

Supply looks great. Did you purchase that programming module (I assume it can use it like the HEP-2300) or are you planning on doing it manually? @Will Prowse it would be cool to see some of these Mean Well chargers as a review

I am also just south of Syracuse as well in Pompey. Initially a contractor installed the initial system and filed the paperwork and everything. As far from a power consumption standpoint I use probably 36,000kWh (36MWh) give or take during the year since everything I run is electric including...

Trying to figure out where to mount the converter and battery in the trailer. The electrical box is under the ward / pantry towards the back of the trailer. Initially was thinking under the king bed for the batteries but that inverter (6000xp)is not going to fit. It is a 2018 keystone cougar...

I have upgraded my travel trailer to a larger 38' travel trailer (2x ACs now) with a 50 amp service vs the 30 amp service I had in the past. In my old TT I had a manual transfer switch, 2x 12V batteries lithium, a 3KW inverter and a spare 12V battery charger that charged the lithium ion...

I am not as perfectly efficient but pretty darn close. 3k sq ft house and fairly well insulated: 1) 8 tons of geothermal on two systems (40% of my energy roughly) 2) Heat pump hot water heater 3) Electric dryer (Could eventually upgrade to heat pump when the cost goes down) 4) Electric stove...

Yup. I traded my half ton for a dually really quick on my last trailer that wasn't nearly as big. Honestly been thinking about this. Just wasn't sure how well it would it do if it ever had the chance to get exposed to the rain. I think unlikely but I still think it's possible. I do like that it...

I would love to put the batteries under the bed. There is some room under the pantry where I can put stuff but there is not that much space. I could possibly do it in the back of a cabinet but I do worry lack of airflow. My old camper I had a smaller inverter under a cabinet and it got hot. I...

Thinking more and more about this I am heavily leaning towards a 48V system especially looking at Will's new video and his mobile setup. https://www.mobile-solarpower.com/mobile-48v-system.html I was initially like mentioned in this using the EG6548XP but I am worried with the extremely high...

Has anyone actually measured the EG4 6000xp. I did some preliminary measurements in the trailer today and I might have a tougher time fitting it somewhere than I thought. Is it truly 25.5"x18"x5.25" as it says on the spec sheet? I seem to be very close in one or two of the dimensions quite a...

The price above 50/60amp MPPT gets very expensive quickly into the $400+ range. Basically it looks like I will be at $500+ already and the AIO allow higher voltages. Basically 12V at 1500W is a lot of current.

I was definitely going to keep them separate. The split phase and regular 120V outlet. 120V would go to a battery charger to power the RV and the split phase would just go to the AIO. The issue is where the power cord is right now is in the back corner of the RV next to the entertainment center...

So are you leaving walking room between the panels or on the sides of the panel. Do you have a good picture of what you did?

So the one difference is I got be able to hand a 240V input or a 120V input. That is why I was debating on putting the transfer switch in. As far as power is concerned I probably am about 1 AC based on the battery just due to the simple fact I think I will kill the battery too quickly otherwise...

That makes sense. I think I just need to do some math on what I would need. I was just trying to see if I could dual use the batteries as a generator if power goes down. My diagram is a bit older when I was looking more at battery backup as a generator when the grid went down.

Well I think I found where I want to put the inverter. I have a large area behind the TV where it should easily mount. I am wondering if I have room to put the batteries next to the fireplace in the back. Two on each side. The only thing I don't like is this would all be on a slide. The fridge...

I agree with you. I honestly never thought of higher voltage batteries like that but it makes a lot of sense especially when you get to whole house backup level. There is always a trade off with system size and voltage level most of the time.

I have a 23kW residential solar system right now in New York state. The residential limit is 25kW I believe for NYSERDA unless you are on a residential farm then it is 100kW. I have quite a bit of load as I have two geothermal units (8 tons), and everything else is electric. My electric use is...

This is awesome. I am going to have to attempt this. I have the shunt listed above. It would be great if I didn't need a new one but we will see.

So which inverter series do you like more? I got to be mindful of minimum voltage for the mppt. Right now I was going to go with 5x of the suntech STP295 watt panels in series. Open circuit is 45.1V and 35.7V at max current. I may do more panels but right now I was going to start here. *Edit*...

I am doing a very similar setup. The plan is to put a chargverter input in case I have a 120V feed or need to power it off the generator. I plan on starting a build thread soon. I do like the idea of a separate input for the inverter. Might be cheaper than running a longer length of wire...

I think I agree with you 100%. I was doing the math while I was posting.

Reading into the Sol-ark it looks like it would have exactly what I would need and looks like I could do the vast majority of it with one Sol-Ark. Biggest issue I see is that it is limited to 19.2kW AC solar input and I am at 23kW already. So it would look like I would need two of them minimum...

So I have been reading various threads on the eco-worthy server rack battery and eg4 6000XP and I just have an overall question on the communication. Does it work with the 6000XP in closed communication with just one of the server rack batteries? It seems the issue is when you have multiple...

Thanks for the help and pictures. That's probably what I will end up doing. I was looking at beveled (angles) washers to level things out as well. Do you think it's possible to mount the panels length wise and just mount to the unistrut that way in 4 spots along the channel or better to add...

That is a ton of battery power in the video. That had to cost a fortune. In an ideal world it would be great if I could do both battery backup and grid export all in one. I guess I would need to figure out how the other solar would work in this configuration as well with the grid tie...

I posted my build here. I went with the EG6000XP and had really good luck with it this far. I am able to run both ACs on it with shore power and one for about an hour with my battery. I camp in the Northeast and Midwest largely in wooded areas so my solar isn't as effective but I don't need AC...

Understood. I was hoping not to have to parallel two converters just due to cost. On the other hand it gives you quite a bit of power for backup without stressing converters too much.

Can you elaborate on this? ATS = auto transfer switch? or auto transformer ? Do you have a diagram?

Thank you for all the advice. I need to do more research on this too on the AIO. I just wanted to make sure it makes sense from a cost perspective to look at an AIO with MPPT vs just getting two or three separate controllers. It seems like the consensus is a yes. Any thoughts on what to do...

I thought of that. It is a $20 connection fee per month for another meter. The only logical place to put it to is about 1/4 mile from the road (Garage) so I am sure it would cost quite a bit.

I posted my build here and was recently answering some questions here towards the end of the thread. I run multiple different ways to the EG4 and have other equipment to handle 120V vs 240V and how to hook things in the system. Essentially I would use a chargverter or a transformer to handle...

The trailer is split phase power or has the ability to do it. So how do you handle the jumpering of the 50Amp service? In my ideal situation I would be able to use the 50A straight from the plug or use the jumpered 30A plug for the 120 from the generator. I think if I go with the bigger 6000W...

Thank you for the pictures. They are definitely worth a thousand words.

I think honestly that is what I am going to do. I am looking at some datasheets etc. for it. I am debating the UHP vs the HEP. About $400 difference but the HEP is for harsh environments, already has the heatsink etc. May start with one and go from there if it works. Just going to do some more...

So does the audible whine happen when it is in parallel only or when they are alone as well?

Is there any reason to not get the bigger 5kW versions vs the 3kW if doing 48? I don't see many 3kW with the higher power. Guess would be ideal power consumption possibly? I guess it would be for the one time we run a microwave while the AC would be on for some headroom.

Thank you. I will try that. Is there a planned firmware upgrade to add that functionality? Also I see the AC detect goes down to 90V input for faults. Does that mean it potentially could run on single phase input vs split phase?

Well I went and took some measurements and I don't think my initial solution is going to work where to mount the inverter. The inverter is 18×25.5×5.25 inches and max kitchen is 20 inches. The first photo shows the small kitchen. Not sure I want things in the kids bedroom too accessible either...

Thinking about this more I probably should detach one of the sunny boy inverters (5 or 6kW) and put it to the PV input of this on the Sol-Ark. This gets me roughly around 17-18kW for AC coupled and then run the additional panels to the Sol-Ark for more PV input. I can get an additional 12-13kW...

I just wanted to post a combination of several posts and ultimately what my build went with for an RV. I have a 50A input with 120V / 240V split phase to handle the two air conditioners I have and this partially drove my build because I plan on adding solar this year and why I went the route I...

Basically, a lot of the campgrounds I go to are 30A -120V service so how do you plan to handle that? I also have a 2 small generators that are 120V only out. I have a larger one that's 240V so I could possibly use that. Would you use something like a chargeverter to handle that situation to...

The more I am looking at it I am thinking about it I am leaning heavily towards the two growatts due to cost. The other one I saw a lot of positive things out of was the Orient Power 6548. I think the 6000XP is starting to get out of my price range ($1399) of what I want to spend unless there is...

So if you have a generator input will it charge the battery fully when the other main input is not available based on the generator settings in the manual? Just wanted to make sure if I set it to charge to 100% on the generator it would do that and then discharge from the battery afterwards if...

The way I would consider this would be sort of how motors work. In this case it would be comparing a traditional AC type motor vs a brushless system which is vastly more efficient. Typically the brushless push way more air with way less power with fans. I imagine these work more like a mini...

I have chargverter 2 and how loud it is dependent on voltage of the charger. So charging at a higher voltage makes it louder. So as your battery gets closer to full charge and lighter load the fan gets louder which is quite annoying. For comparison I have an EG4 6000XP next to it and it is...

This is going to have to be my approach at this point. I have a bluetooth shunt currently but I got to see what it is rated for. Do you have any pictures on how they are mounted in the vehicle? Trying to figure out how i will do that with the trailer. Is the 3000W growatt and EG4 about the same...

I was looking at mouser today at some other meanwell supplies. I think I saw a 1000W version around $230. Meanwell I wonder possibly getting two of them and maybe doing two dedicated 15A(with breakers) outlets on a 30A plug or something. I am going to do more searching though. Ideally I...

I think it is but the cord doesn't look like it would handle it so I don't know how they get to 5kVA unless it was a 240V input. I don't know exactly the transformer is tapped. Thinking more about it I don't care if there is a fan, just as long as it isn't extremely loud. If quieter than the...

That makes complete sense. I think I wasn't grasping the 6500ex vs 6000xp initially until I went further digging into things. I will look into a charger. Any recommendations? I may have one sitting around at home possibly. Also have a few 12v chargers and could possibly always use a DC/DC...

I love it. I am actually thinking of using the 50A as a second split phase as well. I can use the same plug and send it to a battery charger that is a universal input (chargeverter) and if I just want to quickly charge the battery I could use that. Only question is running it to my truck while...

I have a 6000XP on an RV with 4x12V timeusb lithium batteries series stacked. I have solar panels but they're not hooked up yet. Is there anyway to tell that battery not to discharge? Basically what happens now is the unit cycles power to the battery while the grid is available. I want it to...

I still use the chargverter from time to time if I really want to fully charge my batteries all the way up before a trip or something otherwise I am constantly telling the EG4 6000XP to charge the batteries especially hooked into 240V. The victron transformer has a typical transformer buzz/hum...

That makes sense. I want to do some reading about this. Probably 50% of where I stay has power but 95% of the time it is only the 30A - 120V service. This I am starting to debate what I use. I have two Champion 2000W dual fuel generators that I currently use but at home my back up generator is...

This what I am not sure of. My DC side is currently rated just over 26kW so I think they only care at the meter but I am not 100% clear on that.

That's a great idea. Now to just get things on order and the snow to melt to start working. A lot of work to do before camping.

I have to look into that solis type system. It looks very similar to the sunny boy islands as well. Not sure if I like the high voltage battery or not just due to the lack of supply vs a 48V system. I was also looking at the EG4 -18kp -12lv. It looks very similar to the Sol-Ark but allows...

I saw this was verified as true but I want to verify if charging the batteries with the mppt in the 6000xp this is also true.

Thank you this is extremely helpful. So you went with the curve of the roof to help with the install. Looks like this maybe how I want to do it and go from the sides then rather than right over the center hump.

Part of the reason I was looking at strut honestly was to get a few inches of height to deal with a couple obstructions in a few areas. I could go with less panels if without strut and mounting directly to the roof but it maybe harder to hit all the studs in that case as well. That's what I am...

That looks fantastic. What did you use to space up the brackets on each side? It is hard to tell from the pictures. Any concern about the angle with sunlight?

I have been thinking about this for a while even as a system backup at some point to sort of act as a generator. Ideally it would be automatic and last maybe 3-4 hours, but the tough part is how to incorporate everything to be automatic and where to store the batteries. It would be great if I...

I have 8 residential solar panels (39"x78")that I plan on mounting to my roof of the RV. It is a walking roof with aluminum trusses 16" on center and I was going to put down unistrut down first (lags in trusses and plywood) and mount 3 panels per 10 foot section using 6 z brackets per panel. My...

Do you think I could face mount it and recess part of it in the cabinet? I got to see how far the slide sticks out and then use the cabinets for batteries I guess. There is a little room underneath as well I just won't fit that much. I just would need to see if I have 5" that it would stick out...

Has anyone considered running a step up transformer to get full power out of any of these chargers. Around $100 seems like a good solution if always running 120V to it. Step Up transformer link.

Removed the fireplace and there is room to put the inverter either there behind the fireplace or remove the shelf above the TV and put the converter there. Behind the fireplace which has its advantages of everything being hidden but I don't know if I would need more ventilation or not. There is...

Yes it would be the tt-30 amp. Basically I have a 48V RV system that feeds the EG 6000XP when on 50A which some parks have but a lot only have the TT-30A at least in NY or when boondocking on a generator. Really biggest load I have is AC on and microwave on at the same time. Basically I use...

I was thinking to put the struts lengthwise (with the curve) as I knew I wasn't going to be able bend the struts. I was wondering if this would help Adjustable brackets Was thinking like this but was not going to do cross channels if possible.

Not to get totally off topic but could someone use a shunt that has RS485 and connect it to the XP6000? Something like this below? Basically I use this to connect to monitor my Batteries SOC. Just wondering if it could be used to feed information to the 6000XP as a SOC indicator. Shunt

Was looking a little more at both the HEP-2300-55 and the UHP-2500-48 both by meanwell and they de-rate around 60-70% for the charger on 120v. Do you think it would make sense to buy a step up transformer box to handle the additional power? Transformer. Or possibly add a smaller version or two...

Your design is making more and more sense now that I keep copying it further. I do have another 48V power supply that is 10A. That is a .1c charge rate. I am guessing I still want a chargverter to charge quickly if needed.

For some reason I kept confusing the EG4 6000XP (split phase) vs. the 6500XP (120v) So are you guaranteeing the Split phase input on the rv? The idle consumption of the 6000xp seems much more palatable vs the 6500xp at 80W plus.

I think this is what I am going to try and do. I will run the other cable connector coming in under the cabinets in the back possibly in conduit or some moulding just to hide the wire from the kids and their stuff.

I bought the EG4 6000XP this morning. Very excited for this. Now trying to figure out my second plug wiring with the chargverter to make it work with 120V and 240V. The wiring for the chargverter wants 120L-N on the same pins as 240V L-L. I would love to be able to use both with an adapter cable...

I would look at my build. I did something very similar to what you're looking at doing. You do have to have a transformer or something to plug a 120V feed into the EG6000XP for your generator. The 6000XP needs a split phase 240. I also highly recommend a battery with communications. In...

Well that's my main reason for the chargverter. I would want to dial it up for our short generator hours we are allowed where I mainly stay. Most have a 2 hours in the morning and 2 or 3 in the evening. Problem is if you miss one of those, especially in the evening it can make getting through...

I wish I saw that AC before I replaced mine last year. I still need to figure out how to do the solar. 5 panels makes it a little awkward but I could possibly get to 6 if needed. I worry about overall space on the roof. Initially I thought series but I do tend to park under trees so maybe series...

I know this is an older thread but I wanted to know if you came up with a solution to quiet the chargverter. I use it similar to you with 120V to charge batteries on a 48V RV system with a generator and shut it off after but would love to be able to use it when connected to a 30A site as well. I...

Sorry for the quick hand drawing. Basically what I currently would have is you substitute the AIO with separate chargers and inverter and MPPT connecting to the battery bank. Right now my batteries are 4x TimeUSB 100AH 12V batteries. Not sure how well they will do in series charge but I would...

That makes complete sense. I think this what I am going to do. Can't wait to see your install pictures on this. And you're installing the 50A service to the grid inlet on the 6000XP correct. I do have an adjustable power supply with PFC from 0-70V at 11A out and may start here, but I do love...

Thank you for the information. One last question. Can the grid and generator have voltage at the same time? Basically I assume the unit would take power from the grid and only default to the generator feed if the grid goes down. Basically there is a built in transfer switch correct?

I was using the chargverter but it was incredibly loud charging the battery. I bought the victron autotransformer that takes a 120V and creates 240V split phase. Still has the low frequency transformer buzz but that's way more tolerable to me. I put this into the generator port of the 6000XP...