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If this thread proves anything it's.... No Battery = disappointment 100% of the time. There. We've gone full circle.

Why not use any ol’ inverter and make the cart itself waterproof (weather resistant)? A true portable power station. The entire thing is protected, expose power through IP66 rated outlets, cables, etc.

I've been waiting for this as a "sweet spot" for my cabin build. The 18kpv is sexy but overkill for my needs (though I had my finger on the trigger). Lux has demonstrated their ability to build a high-quality product...hoping this is no exception to that rule...

Wealthy US citizens -- esp the relative few that sit at the very top of capitalism -- have caused significantly more harm to this country than any foreign national evading and/or avoiding our laws. Not only have they mastered the art of avoidance, they lobby to change the laws to favor their...

I continue to be BAFFLED by the constant bashing of SS/EG4 and others that have been critical suppliers for our DIY community. The comments have gotten juvenile and outright idiotic. SO WHAT if prices increase in anticipation of reduced profits? SO WHAT if prices increase due to a half-baked...

I will happily take a transparent business owner who is actively engaged in the DIY community and these forums vs. an isolated, unengaged executive. Of course there are lines that shan’t be crossed (e.g. blatant bullying, racism, political bs) else I take my business elsewhere. James engages in...

You need to use the bat signal: @SignatureSolarJess

18k/pv is a dumb name for a 12k/AC AIO inverter. It's a marketing tactic aimed squarely at the biggest competition and drawing consumer attention. However, the product itself seems to be exceptionally capable and worthy of my investment (almost certainly. maybe). But only because I've done my...

How about placing a couple support calls to SS using an alias and posting the legit time to call back and resolution for each? (real ask)

Maybe — now hear me out — just maybe Ian at Watts 24/7 made a bad judgement call to try to reduce the potential threat of the 18kpv to his Sol-Ark money train. He picks up a couple 18kpv’s (from wherever), publicly suggests they are less than a quality product, then “discontinues” them in favor...

Ordered. Let the fun begin! I'll start a new "everything 6000XP" thread.

"Great, congrats @mudman455! Looking forward to hearing more about your experience so others can learn as well. By the way, this EG4 inverter is actually the 18kpv (rated for 12k AC output and 18k of PV)...not to be mistaken for an inverter with 18k AC output if following traditional naming...

Ordered, received, and sitting in the box until I get time to set everything up :/ In the meantime I ordered a 2nd 6000XP to parallel, which is backordered until late Dec. Also had to trench some conduit and get the ground mounts started. This is all happening at my cabin 2.5hrs away so I have...

@SignatureSolarJames I’m eagerly awaiting the 18k[pv] review and plan on getting the rest of my system ordered from SS if all looks good. It will be a significant investment and I’m [still] confident SS will deliver. Some unsolicited feedback: I appreciate you standing up for your team, your...

Update: shipping notification received!

You guys sure love to complain about firmware updates. It’s a software-driven world and we all benefit from it. Hardware should be dumb and less proprietary. Software is the differentiator. It fuels the industry and allows small businesses to compete, reduces the innovation cycle, expands the...

As a DoD-focused network engineer/architect for a good chunk of my career, I salute your efforts and explanation here. ?? My motto has always been “if you’re in my network, you are the one at risk”.

I have recently finished ordering all the pieces I need to build out my system. I've done it slowly over almost a year, starting with the items that were least likely to change by the time I was ready to install. 95% of it has come from Signature Solar...8 separate orders. It was up to me to...

Almost identical. Pretty sure that's not a coincidence ;-)

**UPDATE** I reached out to Signature Solar for support shortly after posting this and had a live troubleshooting call scheduled the next day. The tech suspected the BMS board was faulty or damaged and had a new one sent out within a couple of days. I finally got back to the property this...

https://signaturesolar.com/eg4-6000xp-hybrid-inverter/

Never heard of a device care what the brand of the USB drive is :unsure:...not sure you have that right. @EG4TechSolutionsTeam is this accurate? I do understand drive size requirements, but you should be able to use the next-closest size (e.g. 64gb) and only create a 16gb partition, formatted...

So....about that shipping time @SignatureSolarJames. Any thoughts on when I might see a shipping confirmation (ordered on 10/25)? Are these in inventory?

This is the status quo (as you mentioned). Though there are a few companies that will go out of their way to manufacture and operate in the USA and are very transparent about the cost premium for doing so. The consumer can decide how important that is to them. I personally prioritize a US-based...

FB-only announcements is their worst offence of all. Also significantly limits their reach.

As a DIY'er, my expectation is to be revisiting my design, components, use cases, scale, etc. every so often. It aligns well with the 6000XP's 5yr warranty. I'm not going to fool myself into thinking I'm building a 10-20yr system. And I'm certainly not going to pay a premium for it. Even if the...

That diagram looks familiar :ROFLMAO:. https://diysolarforum.com/threads/dual-eg4-6000xp-wiring-please-review.78087/ Did I steal the design from you, or did we both steal it from someone else? ;) Congrats on getting to this point!

I doubt SS will want to launch a new, low(er)-cost product with the current free shipping promotion. So I’m assuming it won’t launch until after Oct 28th.

You could certainly build an insulated "room" around your gear. At the very least I would recommend a layer of insulating foam board between the cinder block wall and the XP. Cinder | foam board | wood | Hardie board | inverter. Build it out like an interior wall with a couple studs and the foam...

Well, that’s not uncommon — most firmware updates these days are MS-DOS/FAT32, considering where those updates have to land (e.g. logic, pre-OS). Otherwise the firmware will be bloated, proprietary, much more complex, etc.

You missed #3

100% I *am* referring to the 12000XP (off-grid), which is what I’m running. And to be clear, “off-grid” does not mean it can’t be connected to grid. They support AC (grid) input for bypass, charging batteries, etc. What off-grid can’t do is backfeed the grid…which I have no interest in doing.

What ^^ they ^^ said. Just don’t accidentally order the 6000 EX (which is what you have on your diagram). Consider the chargeverter between generator and batteries.

Exactly this. My system is for a cabin ~2.5hrs away, which will often host family and friends (sometimes without me there). I need to be able to guide someone to “just flip the switch” if anything weird is going on. It would be nice to be able to control that remotely, but haven’t looked too...

My 12000XP is in a 4’x8’ marginally insulated shed with 2 x 280Ah wall mounts. Temp has hit single digits the last couple of nights. Shed inside temp is 54F. I have a small space heater in the shed that is programmed to turn on if temp drops below 40F and off when it hits 60F. It might turn on...

Starting with everything off… Inverter: 1 - power switch on 2 - battery breaker on (closed) Battery: 3 - breaker on 4 - BMS on

Update from @SignatureSolarJames: https://diysolarforum.com/threads/resolved-eg4-6500-and-6000-lights-flickering-firmware.54956/#post-704048

As already stated, the inverters are fed from the grid via their AC input -- at no point will they backfeed the grid. The 100A bypass in the diagram is a physically separated bypass switch that determines which AC source feeds the Loads panel -- this could be EITHER the AC Output from from the...

Fair. But at face value, posting 2 new products then suggesting they may be discontinued after a couple of days is odd.

I was hesitant buying from SS in the early days for the reported support issues, but I have to say they have never let me down (and have exceeded expectations in one particular case). This is my first experience with EW, so maybe I'm just unlucky. The initial emails went unanswered for a few...

Just playing devils advocate here — stating “no battery = disappointment 100% of time” does not mean no battery is NOT SUPPORTED with this inverter (some others do call out a battery requirement for proper function). It didn’t take long for me to understand the importance of a battery for most...

Pros: You've stirred up some excitement as we anticipate what you have up your sleeve. I've held off pulling the trigger on a [non-EG4] inverter -- last remaining component to complete my system -- to make sure I've covered my bases. Cons: I've waited well beyond "10 business days or less". I...

I don't disagree. It's buyer beware. But, again, we're not here comparing notes about the overpriced, no-hassle, premium turnkey systems we had professionally installed by an even more overpriced solar services company.

Exactly :) Would love to see more published examples from the manufactures, for 2 or 3 different scenarios. Stamp a huge "EXAMPLE ONLY" with a full page of disclaimers for all I care.

Search for EG4 6000XP. Seems fit for the job.

Time will tell :) I was hoping to have it up and running already, but work/life/diy balance has been quite skewed. Install location is at my cabin 2.5hrs away, which makes it even more challenging. My goal is to have initial tests going in the next month or so.

I kept going back and forth on this (transfer switch vs. critical loads) for my 2 x 6000XP's. While my needs are a little different than yours, one of my primary concerns includes the ability to isolate or bypass the inverters as needed...whether that's for maintenance or an emergency. And...

Curiously, what is your primary use for grid bypass — is it to provide grid backup when your loads are > 50A (2 x 25A) or to provide grid power when your batteries are exhausted? (sounds like the latter). To take full advantage of grid bypass from dual 6000xp’s, each should have a dedicated 50A...

That's got to be PER MPPT, though it is glossed over in the docs. @Markus_EG4?

Hi diy'ers. I have used much of what I've picked up on a number of different threads (mostly: https://diysolarforum.com/threads/eg4-6000xp-ac-out-load-wiring.73268/) to come up with a wiring diagram that I think will work for my off-grid setup in a remote cabin: - 2 x EG4 6000XP, off-grid with...

i haven’t had to rely on it yet (I’m still in the process of installing the PV system), but in testing I was able to increase the ambient temp of the shed by 5 degrees in less than 15 mins on “med” setting, which I assume is about 1kw. Good insulation is key to minimizing use. I am curious how...

Any update on this journey?

First result for “micro inverter” on Amazon was to confirm my car model for compatibility. So there’s that.

The EG4 6000XP [teaser] has the same looks as the other Lux hybrid inverters. And the 'XP' suggests they are rebranding the LXP series (vs. SNA). I guess we'll find out soon enough. Maybe.

Well, that’s one less thing you have to test.🤣

Unfortunately that’s not possible with the 6000XP. The inverter disables PV/batt when in grid bypass. I’m hoping that this is somehow added via firmware update, but doubt that’ll happen.

MAX CONT. LINE WATTAGE = 3000w per line (L1+L2) = 6000w Agree it should be worded better.

Just an FYI, Sig Solar has free shipping for orders > $2000 until May 31st. That could be significant $$. I’ve been consistently pleased with my SS orders. CC is free > $8500.

It absolutely is. Off-grid inverters (incl. the 6000XP) can still use the grid as a power source (charging your batteries, bypass, etc.). Don't mistake that for grid tied or grid interactive, where power is (or can be) exported to the grid. These off-grid inverters are treated just like any...

I think that’s understood by OP (based on his desire to purchase another unit). ?

Can you expand on this a bit? If I were to buy *your* EG4 18kv from Watts, what exactly does that mean in terms of support (I assume Watts would cover that + warranty)? But would SS not recognize it as a true EG4 system? How are they getting EG4 branded gear without your knowledge? Seems like...

Intro by @Gavin Stone - and his follow up -

This is pretty sketchy IMHO:

First place to start is to figure out what your load profile is — power demand, day/night highs/lows, and all that good stuff that the seasoned members of this forum will insist you figure out before getting started. Then determine what your goals are — backup power, reduced grid draw (and...

Looks like $0 sales tax and $180 shipping to VA. ?. That’s another $300 less than SS. Need to confirm the no tax.

Well, that's a different story. They are supposed to fail-to-grid (if wired/configured properly) when the load demand is > 25A (per). My expectation is they will function as designed (as rarely as I expect it to need it to). Not sure if any others have tested and confirmed the functionality, but...

Keep in mind that sub-$800 components from China will no longer slip under the imports / tariffs radar, which means there is no longer significant cost savings by importing parts and assembling in the US (vs. importing the assembled high-cost component and paying the associated tariffs). I...

Yes, it throws the ALM whether it’s connected to the inverter directly, paralleled to the 1st battery, or not plugged into anything at all. When parallel, it puts the master battery into ALM also.

Quick update: I’m willing to sell both **never powered on!** 6000XP’s as a package deal for $2,200 SHIPPED (in continental US). Original box, unopened cables, manual, etc. I’ll even throw in 2 x 50A breakers. Boxes are ready to ship. In other news… the EG4 12000XP was already delivered last...

Basic confirmation by @Zapper77: https://diysolarforum.com/threads/testing-eg4-6000xp-aio-inverter.71312/post-911756 And here: https://diysolarforum.com/threads/testing-eg4-6000xp-aio-inverter.71312/post-973067

Each inverter can pass-through 50A [from grid] for a 100A combined pass-through. I'd like to be able to pass-through up to the full 100A in a situation where the load demand requires anything greater than the combined AC output of the inverters. Maybe @AZ Solar Junkie can confirm I'm thinking...

Putting this out there for anyone interested in some holiday reading. Any and all feedback appreciated! For those following along, you know I haven’t been much of a “make a plan and stick with it!” kind of DIY’er. I’ve been through several design and equipment iterations for a solid 3 years...

FYI - I’m running 3 AWG THHN copper from the 12000XP neutral bar and it fit just fine.

Not unheard of (though just speculation at this point) Thread 'Help! New EG4 12000XP: Unattached dangling neutral wire?' https://diysolarforum.com/threads/help-new-eg4-12000xp-unattached-dangling-neutral-wire.97011/

I understand the new GridBOSS is intended for use with hybrid, grid-tied inverters (12kpv, 18kpv, FlexBOSS21). The documentation also states possible damage to off-grid inverters. I believe this is due to the bidirectional nature of AC to support grid tie functions. I get it. However, I'm an...

All of this smells. I purchased all my system components (mostly from SS) but removed the 18kpv until I can feel more comfortable with the decision (and figure out whatever the heck is going on here). I/we just need some honesty/transparency from all parties involved. And maybe a new competing...

https://www.diffchecker.com/pdf-compare/

@hwy17 - do you have a design in mind for these relays? I’d love to see what an end-to-end setup looks like.

Considering the mechanics are there to grid-assist [for a surge > 6000w], would it be reasonable to suggest that a “permanent” grid assist feature could be added via firmware in the future (e.g. be able to sustain >6000w loads using the grid to make up the difference) if there is justification...

BTW, a HomePod can listen for a siren and trigger alerts and/or automations. My current setup uses HomePods and scattered temp sensors (HomePods have built in temp sensors as well). Of course this assumes network connectivity isn’t compromised.

@SignatureSolarJames any ETA for when you'd get these shipped?

Shared this on another thread, but also relevant here: My "power station" is in an 8'x4' shed just outside my cabin. This houses the inverters (2 x 6000XP) and battery rack (5 x EG4-LLv2). While the shed is well insulated, it can drop below freezing on especially cold nights in central VA. My...

Last call -- $525 includes UPS ground shipping! Still in its new, unopened box. I'm tempted to use this unit as a portable system if nobody wants it. Will keep it up for a few more days.

I don’t know of any disadvantages per se considering it’s specifically designed to this. High-amperage passthrough (bypass) was an important factor for me since I need to power a well pump, 3 x mini splits, and electric hot water heater. I’d hope to never need to grid for backup, but it’s an...

Time to summon @EG4_Jared or @Luxpower_Gilbert

For sure, but that doesn't meet the "anyone can do it" objective ;-)

Zero cash/discounts. Favorable mentions are due to favorable experience. I think you missed my entire argument and unnecessarily made it hostile. Do carry on though.

JFC, it sure didn't take long for my arguments to be on full display. Do better.

This is exactly the route I’m going to take with my dual 6000xp’s. I was iffy about using a bypass switch, but the more I think about it the more I’m convinced. Would you mind sharing your BOM for the system components (panels, breakers, cabling, etc)?

Apologies, my wording may have been confusing. By “PV Panel”, I’m referring to the load center (sub panel) adjacent to the inverter. I’m totally onboard with N-G bond only in main panel and that has been in my design all along. The question was about the “PV Panel” (PV sub panel) in this...

As a side note, am pleased with the EW gear in general, but getting any support has been miserable...buyer beware. I was planning on expanding to a production system after playing around with the 5k inverter and 100ah battery, but I don't think i'll spend another dollar on EW.

When I can’t [easily] automate the button function, I automate button press. https://a.co/d/77mqRyZ The switchbot can “press” a button. If you need a toggle, you can use 2 of them positioned correctly or permanently fix the switchbot lever to the toggle for push/pull functionality. Of course...

Thread 'Dual EG4 6000XP Wiring (please review)' https://diysolarforum.com/threads/dual-eg4-6000xp-wiring-please-review.78087/

You should see the changelog in the app. But also here: https://diysolarforum.com/threads/testing-eg4-6000xp-aio-inverter.71312/post-999319

I’m using a 125A breaker to combine the outputs of two 6000XP’s. I don’t have a ton of space to play with inside my “power shed”, so was hoping to nest the combiner in between the two units as shown in the pic (except will be a couple inches above the wireway). Q: Would this pass code? This is...

First off, I was hoping to have my environment all setup and running by now. But here we are in May ‘24…and I’m pondering a complete redesign based on the constant stream of learnings (and frightening stories). This post is to solicit advice on a potential design pivot and whether I’m totally...

UPS Ground to 37175 is about $36. (I'm using pirateship.com for quotes). DM if interested.

As the title suggests, I mistakingly ordered EG4 LLv2 12V (400ah) batteries when I first started purchasing components for what is supposed to be a 48V system (along with 2 x 6000XP’s). Ordered last year and just now racked them up to realized my [very expensive] mistake. I ordered 5 of the...

Running into the same issue with SmartESS on a Eco-Worthy 5k Hybrid test setup. I can register, connect to the datalogger, configure WiFi, and add the datalogger to the app. All 4 lights are green. However I’m stuck there — it doesn’t discover the attached Inverter for monitoring. Not sure if...

Yes, which is why i give them credit for the h/w itself. But regardless, they ship with that datalogger and they need to be able to support it. To date I am unable to remotely manage or collect any metrics / status from the unit. Which makes it unusable in my case. I am going to give solar...