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Another battery on order and doubling array size to 10k

So....you want me to stop buying from SS because their website isn't up to your standards. Whatever you do don't visit Home Depot's website causes you might have a mental breakdown.

I don't think Deye thought this though. They have basically tanked their sales in the America's. I for one would never buy a Deye sourced product ever. Any company who would engage in cyber terrorism has broken all trust with any potential customer no matter were they live.The crony capitalism...

Actually this thread has hands down been the most entertaining thread I've read in a long time.

Well....this thread is sure entertaining if it's nothing else. It's got everything, drama, wild speculation, butt hurt and legal advice.

Upgrade complete.

If I had a bricked Deye I certainly wouldn't want another Deye product EVER.

Maybe they were using a Deye inverter?

I have never been satisfied with anything I bought solely on price.

I find I'm happier when I don't pay too much attention to the criminals in Washington.

The real problem is too many people have no critical thinking skills.

Bull shit. Traditionally across all industries the method of curtailing grey market units has been to withhold service, parts and support. That's perfectly fine and has worked well to limit the grey market. Reaching out in a cyber attack and damaging legally obtained units is a criminal act. A...

It's hard to tell....since everything is hyper hyped these days. Besides meteorologists are only marginally better than politicians when it comes to laying on the BS.

If Deye bricked these US based non Sol Ark inverters they didn't just shoot themselves in the foot they blew off both feet. Not only would I not buy from Deye directly by association I would never buy from Sol Ark

That's still the coolest looking plane...EVER And to think it was engineered in the 1950's.

News is a four letter word. They're all bought and paid for.

I wouldn't connect my inverters to the internet no matter the manufacturer.

The spring loaded back stab devices are garbage. The screw clamp back insert style are great but pricey.

I'm to old to get exited about anything.

Since the Deyes are grid interactive the Dept of Home Land security could view this action as a cyber terrorist act against the US grid. Wouldn't that be interesting if Sol Ark was investigated as part of a potential scheme.

Anyone who connects their inverter to the internet is taking this exact risk. No matter what brand. Does it matter if the source of the attack was by design of the manufacturer or merely a disgruntled employee?

I agree. I've always thought it never a good idea to directly attack a competitor. No matter how it's done it always looks unprofessional.

This is why I do everything myself.

Which is why I don't use the web "services" of any company. Even if there is no violations by the manufacturer just having equipment connected to the internet opens it up to be compromised.

I think the main take away is don't connect your system no matter the brand or source to the internet. This "Deye debacle" shows just how venerable we all are to the whims of any company those product uses firmware. Since none of the firmware is open source we have no idea what we're...

I disagree. Any brand can be remotely bricked. Any device that uses downloaded firmware or software can be bricked.

I don't buy that. Besides if your inverter is connected to the internet it can be compromised from any number of bad actors.

Convenience AKA laziness will be the doom of the human race. AI will just make it happen quicker.

Corrupt politicians are a problem everywhere. And actually that is on topic.

Well...I went ahead and updated. Went smooth and no apparent issues not that I was having any....just thought I'd "take one for the team"

I thought he was an employee

If you don't need inspection then it's your barn. My view on RSS modules is they likely increase the risk of fire because they double the number of MC4 connections and add a ton of electronics.

Anyone want to buy a Jaguar?

Designing a system knowing it will more than 100% overload the inverter every time your A/C starts is a poor engineering practice. An 18kpv is grossly under sized for the routine loads a 4 ton A/C creates apron startup. Any brand of inverter abused like that can fail.

I still wonder if all this real. It's almost hard for me to believe a company would not realize they were committing business suicide. An AI generated troll screen is just about easier to believe. I'd like to hear from an actual Deye user complaining about their bricked inverter.

The silence of Deye/Sol Ark is deafening. Sol Arks response was to offer to sell them a new inverter. That speaks volumes.

Deye made money off of every inverter they sold. No matter what channel. Now they sabotage their own products. Brilliant marketing move.

I've self installed two so far. It's very easy. You just need a vacuum pump if you use a uncharged line set or you want to customize the length. If you shorten the lines you will need a flairing tool as well. If you can read instructions you can do it. Even if you buy a vacuum pump and gauge set...

You can buy the battery side connectors from SS for $20 apiece. That would be way cheaper then any buss bars.

Scant few facts mostly speculation in this thread. The only take away is don't use cloud based services. Oh yeah and Deye sucks.

None of which violates any US laws. Withholding parts, service or support of any kind is a legitimate response. Bricking private property is a crime.

Ironridge recently expanded to 12.3 kw.

I think political trolling should be confined to Chit Chat

Most here will recommend a EG4 Chargeverter. It can input 120/240 ac and output 48v at up to 100 amps. Adjustable for output voltage and current. Available from Signature Solar or Current Connected. About $465. It can be used with grid or generator power.

An electrician did that wiring?

You're playing with fire. You will care when you fry your inverters.

So...you speak for every power company in the country? What's your title?

Don't forget your range. It can easily draw 6k. The label on mine show 11.3 KW. That's of course with it cleaning (both oven elements) and all four burners on. Remember you have to size your inverter to your peak not the average.

Any condensation would run directly into the SSC.

This is what I used. Storm proof. Got them from https://pv-cables.com/product-category/strain-relief-cord-grips/

Why not just combine the batteries and leave the PV on one inverter?

One surprise that I noted was my A/C unit draws 61 watts almost all the time. 15 watts is the thermostat and variable speed control board which is 100% of the time. The other 46 watts is the compressor heater which runs anytime the compressor temperature is below some value. It doesn't have to...

If you haven't read it yet you should checkout solarnow's posts in the "Deye dealer" thread. His posts are actually more pertinent to this thread.

In a perfect world I would agree. The problem is the government is a magnet for incompetence.

It's one thing to refuse warranty for instance, quite another to cyber attack private property that the company manufactured.

If you wait that long it's likely to be discontinued and replaced with another model which has it's own issues.

EG4 claims 8000 cycles at 80% DoD and 6000 cycles at 100% or about 16.4 years. At 70 I'm not going to worry about the ~ 5 year difference. :ROFLMAO:

Your batteries are inadequate. Even when fully charged they have only half the required power available. Also four 12v batteries in series are a problematic configuration.

I would use a separate photo diode or photo transistor to measure irradiance. As pointed out the voltage curve of a typical silicon solar panel is not ideal. A quick search results in available components and sample circuits which are not complex and can be fed safety from the Arduino bus.

Without a ground wire to the PE bus bar the ground fault cannot work. Worse your cabinet is not grounded which is a unsafe condition. For your own safety please hire a competent electrician.

Hammer?

No different than here.

The fewer the better. Each one is a potential failure point compared to the wire.

Definitely not house trained.

I was going to say those aren't essential loads....those are critical loads!

Are you late...a lot?

If your meter doesn't have an "inrush" button you're not reading the true locked rotor amperage which is the true peak startup current. Max/Min buttons don't result in the same readings. My Grunfos 1 hp draws about 7.7 amps running. It's rated locked rotor is 11.3. Solar Assistant shows about...

Yes a 9 panel arrangement will be safe in your environment. No I've had no surge problems with my 2 6000xps. Having worked with power electronics for years I'm conservative in overall system design. If you want a trouble free system operate it well within it's specifications. There is a...

I definitely don't have the patience for such an endeavor.

As for your question about Telsa batteries... I wouldn't have a Lithium/Cobalt battery anywhere near my house.

Those are bolt in cells. Why not just replace the bad cell?

This one belongs in the Chit Chat forum.

My Victron 800 will start my refrigerator w/max wattage of 400

The fuse should be as close to the battery as is practicable.

Are you sure it's real copper wire?

Companies don't get killed. They fail to innovate and stay with the market.

If you're using cloud service they don't need a backdoor. They have a front door.

Actually mining the heat from the earth would be a incredibly stupid thing to do. When cooled enough the magnetosphere will disappear and unless we find another place to screw up we'll all be dead.

This is why you always hook up the positive first in a negative grounded system.

It doesn't matter or not...they're still going to run their money laundering operation called the "US government"

Yes but not equally. EG4/James was unprofessional but his story was correct. Sol Ark is an unknown as to their exact involvement but most people will presume they were involved. Deye on the other hand are cyber terrorists who have disrupted the entire Chinese inverter/solar market.

After drilling your corners clamp a straight edge to use as a guide for the jig saw. It will look like you knew what you were doing.

The outputs of the two inverters must be combined before any power is used by any source. You should combine the inverters before sending power to the sub panel and then on to the transfer switch. Easiest fix would be to combine the inverters in the combiner sub panel and then to the sub panel...

No not all Sol Ark. They don't have the resources or information necessary. Sol Ark may have pushed them but IMO Deye did it. The main damage is to cloud bases services of all companies. Anyone who would stay connected to the internet is blissfully ignorant.

You need DC rated thermostats or you will fuse the AC ones and potentially have a run a way condition. DC arcs badly because you have no zero crossing condition occurring which extinguishes the arc. There are dc rated devices available but as it's already been said just use a regular water...

Save yourself some money. Buy the 10k. No sense buying multiple inverters. The amount of PV has little to do with the inverter size. You size the PV to the battery capacity. As usual you should determine your power needs first.

If the NSA would spend less time spying on citizens and more on reverse engineering the firmware in these devices we might know whether they're back doors in other brands too.

There seems to be a lot of confusion between a criminal act such as damaging private property and violating a civil contact between two companies that you didn't sign. It doesn't surprise me that Deye would damage private property as communists generally don't respect the concept of private...

Yeah next year they'll be branding them Darm or Dear or maybe Dfoot. Come to thing of it Deye was named right....they just spelled it wrong.

Yep...There's no honor among thieves

Polaris connectors are great for their intended purpose which is not yours. They are not designed for super fine wire. Besides they are extremely expensive in the larger sizes. The 6000's come with 2/0 cables which is more than adequate for the max 140 amp draw. The previous suggestion of bus...

IMO using EV batteries in your house is dangerous. Using any without a proper BMS is foolhardy.

This a interesting video that may have some applicability for some cases.

The older I get the more I'm willing to spend on equipment.

What kind of BMS do you have? (DanielBeardsey) After re-reading your EG4 web post I see you don't have one. The battery you have apparently is a Telsa from a model S which if I'm not mistaken is a Lithium Cobalt chemistry. You are quite literally playing with fire with no BMS. I hope your not...

Well... this thread has been entertaining if nothing else. :rolleyes:

If you think what it cost to run your freezer and refrigerator is bad just think of what is in them cost you. :oops:

Exactly. The transformer that supplies your house is a high voltage step down single phase device. The secondary is center tapped. The center tap is earthed and is used as the neutral. L1 to L2 provides 240 volts single phase. From L1 or L2 to the center tap provides 120 volts. Since the tapped...

You gave him more chances than any other web admin/owner would.

Just one more reason I won't buy an EV.