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Dog Show Battery

AndyRonLI

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Folks,
So my wife and I show dogs. Just upgraded our fifth wheel and am impressed with the LiPO I put in. We show Cairn Terriers, so these are not dogs that get a full up shampoo and need an hour to blow dry, but there are times when being able to fire up a blow drier for a few minutes would be handy. It is way over kill to carry a generator just for this, and if you are indoors they are out of the question. I am looking for a solution that can supply a 1500W blow dryer for about 15 minutes, maybe 20. It would be an intermittent profile, with heat on for 45 seconds, then off for 30, or similar. And it must be something my wife would be willing to carry, but it could be a two or three trip device.
My current thought is that two or three 50Ah batteries could do the trick. That is less than 20 lbs per battery. Dakota has a 54 ah 12v rated at 50A continuous. So three would get me 1800 watts, I should be able to invert that to 1500 watts without any huge issue. Now that should let me run a blow dryer for almost an hour, which is way more than I need.
So.... How far can you push continuous amps into the peak amp territory for how long. The max 10 second pulse is 100 amps, so two batteries is 2400 watts which is more than I need. Trying to find a solutoin that gives me the Watts I need, but not for five times as long as I need. Could I push a battery rated for 50A continuous to 75A for a few minutes, if its max was 100A. Or would that degrade the battery?
Should I be looking at a different chemistry?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
ANdy
 
Food for thought. I run a hair dryer off my 48 volt ebike battery. Runs about 350 watts at that voltage. I use it to drain the battery when the need arises. I also run the vaccum cleaner on 48 volts, I also run the plug in the wall lawn mower from the same battery. DC tends to fry the switches. Oh did I mention I run the circular saw on the 48 volt pack aswell.
 
So straight DC power? Hmm like you said that is a lot of juice through a switch designed for 120VAC. But perhaps an upgraded hair dryer made for 48V. Or modified. What is max current through that battery? Never really looked in that direction.
 
You may be able to make this out of 16 cells of the 25 ah Topband prismatic cells put in series with a 48 volt Inverter. 48 volt configuration will really cut down on the wire size.

The spec sheet on these cells advertise 3C continuous discharge.

This will not be a light build. This will be the same as a 12 volt 100 ah battery, and 2000 watt inverters will weigh 15 - 25 LBS.

This will be something you can lug in on a cart, or move similar to a milkcrate build.

You can look at different solar generator type options. What you build will probably be cheaper, but a little bigger.
 
Folks,
So my wife and I show dogs. Just upgraded our fifth wheel and am impressed with the LiPO I put in. We show Cairn Terriers, so these are not dogs that get a full up shampoo and need an hour to blow dry, but there are times when being able to fire up a blow drier for a few minutes would be handy. It is way over kill to carry a generator just for this, and if you are indoors they are out of the question. I am looking for a solution that can supply a 1500W blow dryer for about 15 minutes, maybe 20. It would be an intermittent profile, with heat on for 45 seconds, then off for 30, or similar. And it must be something my wife would be willing to carry, but it could be a two or three trip device.
My current thought is that two or three 50Ah batteries could do the trick. That is less than 20 lbs per battery. Dakota has a 54 ah 12v rated at 50A continuous. So three would get me 1800 watts, I should be able to invert that to 1500 watts without any huge issue. Now that should let me run a blow dryer for almost an hour, which is way more than I need.
So.... How far can you push continuous amps into the peak amp territory for how long. The max 10 second pulse is 100 amps, so two batteries is 2400 watts which is more than I need. Trying to find a solutoin that gives me the Watts I need, but not for five times as long as I need. Could I push a battery rated for 50A continuous to 75A for a few minutes, if its max was 100A. Or would that degrade the battery?
Should I be looking at a different chemistry?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
ANdy
hey we show dogs too :)
 
We show Cairn Terriers. Also do Earthdog and Scentworks. And usually have a litter ever 12 months or so.
How about you?
 
We show Cairn Terriers. Also do Earthdog and Scentworks. And usually have a litter ever 12 months or so.
How about you?
american staffordshire terrier , both at home ( netherlands, europe) aswell in AKC ( Louisville cluster + STCA specialties.
only show our own bred dogs
 
Bred By Exhibitor. Always the toughest class, but always the best feeling when you finish a dog you bred. Sometimes a handler helps, but its just not as satisfying
 
Bred By Exhibitor. Always the toughest class, but always the best feeling when you finish a dog you bred. Sometimes a handler helps, but its just not as satisfying
my wife is our handler...
and if living in the us , could have been a pro..

myself, i am more in to the pedigree/genetics/ lines of our kennel..
but you are correct thoughest class, but most gratifing
 
I would say a good inverter generator is probably the best bet. Our blower requires 20A service when both motors are running. Not sure what the draw is on batteries would be but I'd imagine you would need a nice inverter and some battery weight, or cost if you use LFP. For just occasional portable use a generator is hard to beat.
 
So the point is to avoid a generator, so the device can be used deep inside a tent or even in abuilding. And to avoid having to carry gasoline when I travel. The issue is that I need a high wattage output for a short period of time. I need 1500 to 2000 watts, but I only need that for 30 minutes. Meaning the battery capacity is 750wh to 1000 wh. At 24 volts that 31 Ah to 40 Ah. Not finding any such battery or similar. WEIGHT is a player. If I felt my wife could schlep the weight, there are several "solar batteries" with more than the capacity. Always read the OP before responding, your response is way off the mark. But thanks anyway.
 
I was arguing in favor of a generator and didn't convince you, that's fine. I hope you find what works best for you! GL in your future shows and I am sure the neighbors on-site will appreciate the less noise.
 
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