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The Real Reason LA port is backed up

They should send those ships over to Florida. They're open for business. Lots of big ports.
A lot of those ships probably can't make it through the Panama canal though.
 
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Yeah, that’s a great idea. lets raise the carbon footprint of products sent to the west coast for a reason (economics/shortest route), by having the filthiest fuel burning ships power thousands of miles from CA to FloriDUH, where the bulk of the products can then be trucked back accross the US to be delivered.

Oh wait, Newsflash: CA IS open, and has 6th largest economy in the world last I heard…
I’ve seen numerous articles indicating US Buying/consumption is up 25% from 2020, and there’s a nationwide truck driver and employee shortage… among other things.
 
Yeah, that’s a great idea. lets raise the carbon footprint of products sent to the west coast for a reason (economics/shortest route),
I am sure the shipping companies are already using any route if economical and physically possible.....what's this carbon footprint you talking about??
 
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I don't know if there is less carbon footprint for a product traveling by ship to LA-Long Beach then by truck or rail to Midwest or East Coast or by ship to Gulf then truck or rail to final destination. Last I heard the time was quicker via the former.
 
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I don't know if there is less carbon footprint for a product traveling by ship to LA-Long Beach then by truck or rail to Midwest or East Coast or by ship to Gulf then truck or rail to final destination. Last I heard the time was quicker via the former.
Don’t forget idling for two weeks to get into port.
 
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Off shore windmills to recharge the LiFePO4 batteries in the cargo ships?

Better yet, trolley wires suspended from buoys along the shipping lanes!
 
Don’t forget idling for two weeks to get into port.
I did not forget that, It is a complicated risk management decision for the owners of vessels. For those that have vessels that can fit through the new and improved Panama canal they have an interesting choice of options, Time is the big factor in terms of capital cost of the vessel. Then operating cost of a longer journey versus faster turnaround with risk of delays unloading,
Clearly the West Coast has advantages in terms of transit times, What I don't know is why some of these vessels have not rerouted to Oakland if the delays in LA Long Beach are too long? I don't know the capacity of Oakland. I do remember during a port tie up many years ago some auto transports were able to unload at Port Hueneme and maybe even some in Ensenda, Those are much smaller vessels and transporting vehicles may be different than containers, The point is there are alternatives but I do not know the costs associated with those alternatives,
 
Cant fit through Panama canal
Some can. Maybe stop being lazy to have LA port sorting where stuff goes but to load east coast containers on a panama ship and send to the gulf. Takes a few years to make this sort of change.?
 
Some can. Maybe stop being lazy to have LA port sorting where stuff goes but to load east coast containers on a panama ship and send to the gulf. Takes a few years to make this sort of change.?
It’s not so simple. Florida does not have the vast amount of cranes and unloading systems that Ca has. Also the rail services are not geared up for that kind of traffic. They would need to spend billions on upgrading the ports. Also the extra fuel used to get to and from Fl via the canal is not cheap, it Is going to come out of our pockets in increased fees.
 
It’s not so simple. Florida does not have the vast amount of cranes and unloading systems that Ca has. Also the rail services are not geared up for that kind of traffic. They would need to spend billions on upgrading the ports. Also the extra fuel used to get to and from Fl via the canal is not cheap, it Is going to come out of our pockets in increased fees.
ever been to port everglades ?
if they could handle just 20% the pressure from la would be gone, and thing would return to normal pretty fast
 
ever been to port everglades ?
if they could handle just 20% the pressure from la would be gone, and thing would return to normal pretty fast
At this point it has kind of been conclusively proven that it is the truck and rail systems that are holding up things. The story has changed so many times that it’s not funny.
 
ever been to port everglades ?
if they could handle just 20% the pressure from la would be gone, and thing would return to normal pretty fast
That’s just it. FloriDuh doesn’t have the rail, trucking, and warehouse infrastructure to take 20%.
watched a news segment on the LA long Beach ports lastnight. 1 ship with over 6000 containers on it, TAKES 10 DAYS TO UNLOAD. And crews are not working around the clock yet, it’s up to the companies to get that going.
 
Oh wait, Newsflash: CA IS open, and has 6th largest economy in the world last I heard…
I’ve seen numerous articles indicating US Buying/consumption is up 25% from 2020, and there’s a nationwide truck driver and employee shortage… among other things.
Why did this suddenly start this year ?
There is an California rule which eliminates most older trucks from entering the port area. That's the problem.
Thank the tree huggers for their ability to screw things up.
 
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