diy solar

diy solar

Talk me out of the Victron 3,000va inverter

newB or not newB

New Member
Joined
Dec 17, 2021
Messages
14
I am looking for any reason not to go with this inverter. (3000va, 2,500 watt)
My absolute max wattage usage will be just 2113, and I do not intend to ever grow larger, if anything I will downsize.
Tiny home 24volt system
3,000 watts of panels
Midnite classic 150 cc.
A very basic set up with only about six outlets, no need for 220v.
Thoughts?
 
I’m building about the same set up, and looking at the 3000 W inverter, not sure what all benefits this one would have over it, it is 500 wants less power, but Victron is at the top of the line from what I have read. I guess I am saying do some research and make sure it is not more than you need. A lot of the extra features are worthless if you’re not going to use them.
 
You don't want a Victron inverter/charger. Why would you want something that will actually perform at its rated specs all day long without issue? Why buy something that you can get support for from any Victron dealer? And you certainly wouldn't want to combine your Victron inverter/charger with a Victron charge controller and a Victron SmartShunt. It would be silly to put together a system where the components actually communicate with each other to ensure your batteries are getting the best treatment.

Nope, only a fool buys good stuff (don't look at my signature below, there's nothing to see there).

P.S. I hope the heavy sarcasm isn't lost in the above ;)
 
Will I try talking you out of nope! I love mine in my MotorHome!

However, a couple of extra things you will need or want.

To program it. The easiest way is you will need the MK3 to USB adapter plus a PC. I believe there is another way if you have a GX device- you can program it on the VRM site and download the program - but I am not exactly sure there (I have a MK3).

Running it: there are not many things to change once it’s running, except to change the current input. I believe there are four ways:

First- attach the Multiplus to a GX device. Cerbo and touch are the newest and fanciest. You can roll your own with a raspberry pi. I have a CCGX (it’s older now). With all victron gear (SCC, shunt, and Multiplus) - this would be my recommendation.

Second, there is DCU (digital controller unit- or something like that) a basic control panel.

Third, there is a Bluetooth adapter- so I believe you can do any of the adjustments on your phone.

Fourth, if you really never change your current limit you could just the the MK3 - if you ever change your generator size. This way it would connect to your computer.
Good luck
 
You already have a good CC, spending money on an AIO seems a bit of a waste if you don't need or want to have grid support.

I like having separate components
I have an Eco Worthy 3500w inverter. Definitely not tier 1 but it has proven to be reliable after a year of daily use.
It has hot wiring connections so I'm able to run power to a breaker box for 120v
For grid backup I have a Moes ATS

With no need for 220v, my system is more than adequate. Like you, my use rarely pushes more than 2000w.
Having 3500w gives me peace of mind knowing I'm not pushing the limits of the inverter.

If on the other hand I was starting from scratch I would certainly consider a Victron AIO.
Victron quality and dependability is great. I love my Victron 100/50 Bluetooth CC
.
 
FYI - The Victron isn’t an AIO.
Ah, a SIO (some in one) :)
Made me look closer. What I thought were PV inputs in a photo - weren't
It does have an ATS

Guess it comes down to the price one is willing or able to pay.
I'm satisficed with my components (inverter and ATS) at 1/2 the expense.
BUT at some point I'd like to upgrade to the Victron when my "cheap" stuff loses it's magic smoke but who knows how long that will take.
I expect I'll have plenty of time to save up.
 
Trying understand a lot of info above lol. GX devise, Cerbo, DCU? Might want to figure all that stuff into the cost. A basic inverter does not need all that stuff, but im a newbie and have no idea how important that other stuff is or the Benefits and long term benefits of them?
 
About the only way you could go wrong with Victron is to buy the wrong model. First decide if you need a Multiplus, or a Phoenix. Maybe even a Quattro, but they cost more. The new Multiplus 2 is great also, and not far off in price. The 24v version of the Multiplus is UL listed, which might become important for you.

I'd try to match it up with other Victron components, as others have stated.
 
From everything I have read Victron makes really good stuff but if your looking for a reason then it must be price related? You really don't want to push any electronic device into that 90% range of capacity for long periods of time, it just shortens the life of the device significantly because of the heat generated and the fact that Electrolytic capacitors inside the unit will fail quicker in hot environments.
 
From everything I have read Victron makes really good stuff but if your looking for a reason then it must be price related? You really don't want to push any electronic device into that 90% range of capacity for long periods of time, it just shortens the life of the device significantly because of the heat generated and the fact that Electrolytic capacitors inside the unit will fail quicker in hot environments.
Solid advise. I done a power audit with my kill-a-watt and my absolute max power usage would be 84.52% of the available 2,500 watts and that’s me running everything at the same time.
 
I’m liking the Victron myself, trying to talk myself into spending the money over a Samlex 3,000 I’ve been eying for $895
 
I would skip the Victron unless going ALL in on Victron with monitors, SCC, power distribution and the rest.

Possibly the Multiplus feature to combine power with a smallish generator and manage power would get me a Victron inverter.
 
Keep in mind that the Victron 3000 is volt amps, so about 2500 watts. They are well built, and like others have stated, they have a great system. Personally, I don't buy into all the bluetooth stuff, and using phones to access stuff. But I sure like their equipment.

They have a new pre-built electrical panel called the VEP that mates up with specific inverters, which in my opinion it ridiculously expensive. It is built for them by Midnite Solar, and is pretty blue.

If the Samlex at $895 seems to be a stretch, the Victron is way out of the ballpark. Those Samlex look like pretty nice units, and they get a lot of positive comments. I've never used one.
 
Keep in mind that the Victron 3000 is volt amps, so about 2500 watts. They are well built, and like others have stated, they have a great system. Personally, I don't buy into all the bluetooth stuff, and using phones to access stuff. But I sure like their equipment.

They have a new pre-built electrical panel called the VEP that mates up with specific inverters, which in my opinion it ridiculously expensive. It is built for them by Midnite Solar, and is pretty blue.

If the Samlex at $895 seems to be a stretch, the Victron is way out of the ballpark. Those Samlex look like pretty nice units, and they get a lot of positive comments. I've never used one.
Yes, im Aware that’s why my 1st sentence in my post was “I am looking for any reason not to go with this inverter. (3000va, 2,500 watt)” the Samlex isn’t a stretch, it’s the cheaper option, with my budget I could buy the Victron, just apprehensive about spending that much money if it’s not needed.
Guess I just need comforting lol.
 
Do you already have the Midnite Classic? If so get a Schneider Conext SW4024 and call it a day.
 
I am looking for any reason not to go with this inverter. (3000va, 2,500 watt)
My absolute max wattage usage will be just 2113, and I do not intend to ever grow larger, if anything I will downsize.
Tiny home 24volt system
3,000 watts of panels
Midnite classic 150 cc.
A very basic set up with only about six outlets, no need for 220v.
Thoughts?
the only thing i see is do you want this , and or this . so let me ask how good are you at this?
 

Attachments

  • indexa.jpg
    indexa.jpg
    6.3 KB · Views: 28
  • indexaa.png
    indexaa.png
    4.8 KB · Views: 26
Back
Top