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Again some great points, I will do some research on anchoring the standing seam roof, and then the panels also. And I will see about inventing an angle that can add strength and stay hidden in the seam.

I have a wife who I can send up and clean that snow off when it is too slippery for me! I am encouraging a steeper roof, for snow and winter angle, so we will see what happens. I have a dumb question, are there any secrets to shed snow better on these pannels?

I have been reading Hedges comments for a couple of years, and very thankful he is a contributing member of this forum, he is wonderful!

Great point on the off-grid, this is expected to be and stay off-grid. Only a few years ago, I said only a fool would be off the grid unless there was no grid close. But I see that has changed for many reasons that I am not going to list at this time. The love of the independence, the better...

Thanks, I see that PM now, I will keep this thread informed as this progresses, he is taking a careful approach and might not get started until late summer.

We may do that, this will be in the country, 10 miles from the river, and this will be an ideal application for a proper angle roof. Thanks a bunch for the offer, send me a message if you are comfortable with it. You raise a great question on the snow, and I know what you mean about melting...

Thanks for the info and reply! His load does not vary a great deal, but a hot summer day is the maximum load he just insists he will expand up to what he can produce, like charging his vehicle and maybe some space heating. Yes, this will be a roof installation, on a standing seam roof, would...

Send me his info and we can talk with him. Thanks for the reply.

I will be busy all day until late tonight, but the total electrical demand will be just over 1000 KW a month, he plans to expand that to 1500 a month when the sun shines and can use the excess on water heating or space heating. In addition to that eventually include things like charging an...

I have a busy day tomorrow but will be glad to pick back up in the evening. I will get the electrical consumption he has had for the last year at his current residence.

That is the plan, He does not plan to start until mid-summer at this point, the roof it is going on is not built yet. Where in Ministota is he? My friend will pay for whatever help we need, just not sure how much that is at this point.

Thanks for the input, lots of obstacles including night fall! We will make it work as we have others with working systems, but none optimal, and that is what he is looking for.

Thanks for your quick reply and follow-up questions. The expected load is less than 1000 KW for a month, the biggest load will be a two KW heat pump, and most major appliances will be gas. He has a large roof and can go with close to 30Kw of panels if needed, and might as he is hoping to...

I have a good friend who wants to put in a 20 KW system, on a new house and looking to do it right. He has been reading a bunch as I have but wants the best equipment available at a reasonable price. He plans to be off the grid so needs batteries and is willing to spend what it takes to do it...

Thanks for the update, and the follow-up! It will be fun to see how they work out.

If you have not got a roof in place yet, a standing seam metal roof is the way to go if you are willing to put panels on it. That would be my choice.

Will Prowse has done many videos, but I still think he could endorse a grid-free system that includes 100 percent of the package exactly how he would do it for himself. That alone would be so helpful to us handy people who are striving to get a good system, and Will's insight into reliable...

I am not comfortable giving you an answer, but I would love to get your feedback once you have your system, good luck.

In my area of Wisconsin, we have some state rules that stifle local electrical production, so we buy some of our power from out of state, and idle a few coal plants. I have been a TOU consumer for years, and I fully understand peak load, so I think that this system works well to hold down the...

I have never thought about that concept, but it is fascinating and will change the power supply world in a big way. Life and your electrical needs used to be so simple, now I wonder if we will all end up with batteries someday. Time to invest in something!

While we are talking about the grid, we need to remember that this entire issue is mainly about greenhouse gas. So much of my point on this is we either need to build and reinforce the grid or start generating clean energy near the main consumption areas.

You are exactly correct on night capacity being sufficient today, but we are scheduled to shut down our fossil fuel generation plants, which has put a huge strain on natural gas prices and now causing a serious problem with the high gas cost. The nuclear plants will make up for that. You can...

If you look up how much electric demand we will need to replace the fossil fuel equivalent, you will be shocked, and so will everyone else. I would quote you some figures but they are so phenomenal that I will ask you to do some research on it. America uses close to 400 million gallons of...

I have a busy evening ahead of me, but I also think the number one issue is to make the grid safe and reliable. I am a member of Dairyland Cooperative, much of our system covers a large part of Wisconsin and some of Minnesota, Illinois, and a bit of Iowa. Much of this system was financed by...

You have an interesting perspective, who do you think owns the grid?

I think this info fits here, so I will tell you in West Central Wisconsin where I live, we have a mega solar conglomerate that has got contracts on 4200 acres to build a solar field. Here is what the hold-up is, they want to be 100 percent unregulated, but be able to put their power onto the...

I will agree, but it is far easier today than ten years ago, and the only reason they put up with us is because in many places there is a mandate to be renewable.

I think you have summed up the situation perfectly. I will add, that they get you to produce the power that they get to sell, They also get to set all the rules, and they simply don't like competition, you have become a competitor, by being a power producer, and they make all the money. I...

Hey Hedges, any updates on this subject, crazy world out there.

And diesel or kerosine if vaporized by heat or any source also has a phenomenal explosion force. You won't find them vaporizing as easily as gasoline but under the right conditions violently explode if ignited.

It will be interesting to see what others say, my take on it is that it is an arbitrary number they picked, and it is up for further discussion when they get around to it.

Thank you for the info. How is the overall price compared to other sellers, it would be fun to know the delivery times.

How is it that there is an additional 3 percent back when using your referral code?

I used to work on large DC contactors, and one of the biggest issues here is that in some percentage of contact failure, they weld closed, and will not shut off, leaving you with a dangerous overheating situation. How often that happens, I have no idea. To give you a bit more info, these...

Fascinating, thanks for the update, and get back to us in a year with further update if you can.