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Are you talking about your incoming watts? What batteries do you have? I see your profile shows a "5500 growatt build". Is the inverter an AIO or is there a charge controller (or any other equipment that might consume power to run)?

I'm looking at more than inverter draws but didn't see that thread. I'll look. Do you have a link by chance? I'm also interested in batteries and any draw required to run a stand alone charger.

What does YOUR system take to run itself? I know this can vary based on what loads you're powering. But has anyone taken the time to see what it takes just to keep their inverters, charge controllers (or AIO's) and batteries healthy before figuring their actual load? If you care to answer...

I'm not using them for blackouts. I do use these batteries to cover loads 24/7 and, therefore, would need the bank when the sun's not shining just like anyone else. I only switch back to grid when I'm seeing a crap forecast and the batteries start dipping toward 50%. I know I can go lower...

I appreciate the tips. I just don't have the skillset to make modifications. Measurements at this point won't get me far. I just wanted to leave my own personal experience on this thread. I wish I had more DIY in me. We DIY'd the install but that's as much DIY we're actually capable of...

Some of your question is over my head so I'll just give you my simplistic answer. At absolutely nothing attached, not even the inverters, they dropped more than 12 watts an hour each. When the inverters are turned on, there is always a draw on the batteries when no solar is being generated...

No, I ended up sitting on them long enough to make it extremely painful to resell them. I received an offer I should have taken but it was only for 4 of the batteries at the time. Without packaging, any warranty, and with recent price drops I'm in a pickle. I also wanted to be sure I picked a...

No load, not even powering the inverters, working with MurphyGuy we figured it was a bit over 12 watts. Thankfully, we're still connected to the grid so when my bank gets low, I put all loads on the grid and allow the inverters to recharge the bank. But this defeats the purpose of the system...

Sorry I am just now reading this thread. I have 10 eFlex batteries and a very long thread on this forum including gaslighting responses from a rep of the manufacturer who now sadly works for Sol-Ark (I have two of those as well). When the batteries are actively powering loads, 30W/battery...

Sorry for the late response. I didn't see a notification of your reply. I have Fortress eFlex batteries which consume 30 watts per hour when in use. That's EACH. My bank consumes 7,200 watts in a 24 hour period which exceeds my actual load in the winter by 5000 watts. My understanding is...

Do you happen to remember what they were asking for them?

No. Did they sell? I was going to post on Craigslist but have had trouble doing so. There’s a local battery builder who is likely flagging the ads.

Good to know!

No the warranty is only transferable in the original installation location so if I sold my property, the warranty could be transferred to the new property owner. However, that said, they still provide full support to a buyer. I made sure to confirm this just in case I do sell. Still on the...

I personally think that it's all relative to what the equipment is going for new. As prices have dropped on the 12ks while I pondered what to do, the value has certainly taken a huge hit. Then you look at lack of warranty and loss of any tax credit and go from there. They will support a new...

It's absolutely a consideration we're mulling over. Honestly, I was surprised to see so many ads come up in my area for Sol-Ark 12ks all of a sudden. We've had a few issues with our setup which were caused by an issue with the board in our master unit. When that board was replaced, we've...

I couldn't get the one person I thought might have the chops to rebuild the batteries as you said to touch the project. We're not capable. And the batteries have welded cells. I do need to dump them and I've been working with Dan to replace them I noticed there was a post of yours with...

Yes, 60W x 2 plus .05 of consumption is bothering me but only in the winter. I do have two already so my lowest consumption is 2880 watts for 24 hours (that's idle consumption). In winter I can have days as low as 2,000 watts in production. I need to know I can refill my batteries when I can...

Though I can't answer your questions because I'm not qualified, I can say I saw your error in thinking because I did the same darn thing. lol

For some reason, when I've been looking I haven't seen them for sale. I hadn't been looking at NAZ as I already spent north of $60k with them and refuse to repeat my experience. I did see the Barcelona many places and it kept saying the Rosie was the companion but the Rosie wasn't available on...

I'm having a lot of trouble with the self-consumption numbers. I'm fine all summer but once we hit winter it gets more than dicey for us. We need a lighter load.

6500 watts not volts, right? Your problem will be the limitation in the MPPs voltage max especially at lower temperatures.

You need a LOOOOONG road trip! :ROFLMAO:

I'm seeing one as low as $3k in Eugene, Oregon. Is that cheap enough for you? I bought my 12ks just before the 15k came out. :-( I'm looking at possible replacement with Victron equipment but I'd have to rewire my arrays to make them work. My best solution appears to be the Midnight Solar...

That would be great if Dan is still in business. He IS Trophy battery. He's not just a distributor. That scares me a bit. I should be discussing this directly with him as a courtesy but it's late and we were planning on wiring funds tomorrow.

I did look at the EG4's before Trophy but their racks have had enough issues that they were willing to deep discount to get the sale but wanted money up front with an unknown rack ship date. It smelled like a bad deal and I walked away. How do you install batteries without the damn rack? I...

Downside with Trophy is they're so small that if something happens to Dan I'm not sure there'd be backup. He's been great to work with though.

I'm strongly considering bailing on my Sol-Ark 12ks due to their self-consumption. But when preparing to do so I've seen 3 being sold in my area for such low prices, I'm struggling to let go of what I have due to the significant loss I'd incur. If people are bailing out of this product and...

I have literally been back and forth trying to decide on where to spend my money on new system components. EG4/SS were on my list. Not at all anymore. Thanks for your post.

We want 70+ kWh with low self-consumption.

I am about to pull the trigger on 15 Trophy batteries. I don't want to build my own batteries. We did that with 12v and sold them to a neighbor. My husband's memory is fading and I have to have something I can manage on my own. We are installing ourselves and not worried about permits...

I might be slightly late to this discussion but am wondering if you've looked at the self-consumption of the Homegrid batteries. I bought batteries that literally eat all of my winter production just to run so they're useless. I'm looking for a new battery option as the direct result and am...

Thank you for your honesty. I am looking to replace my year-old system altogether, frankly. And I'm looking hard at options. I will scratch this battery off my list.

Thanks for the response. Are you happy with the purchase? Would you still say not DIY friendly?

Wondering if you got your issues resolved. Any luck?