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    Incorrect Battery SOC

    For anyone interested. This morning the SOC jumped from 65 to 100% after the charging voltage had reached the absorption value and reduced the charge current for about one hour. For the rest of the day i will not benefit from my excess solar generation. it looks like it has basically gone...
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    Incorrect Battery SOC

    My configuration has two 8.0 kW Deye Hybrid in parallel. They are new and have been operating for about 3 weeks. On one occasion i noticed that the SOC was changed (reduced downwards) during the night which required additional charging to recover the SOC the following day. They then operated...
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    Yes because they disconnect the L and N when the grid fails so they can't pass the N through the device and maintain the PE-N link (this is for grid tie inverters. For off grid inverters with grid connection where the two L's are never connected together they hard wire the N through the device...
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    Anyway many thanks for the esoteric discussion on earthing systems. It is a topic that is not properly understood by many in the industry.
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    I would not use a relay anyway. It is not a reliable protection device. In any case the four neutrals are all connected together for 99% of the time and all equally earthed through the single PE-N link in the main board.
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    There is no Parallel diagram for Australia/NZ/SA configuration. I have followed standard AU practice.
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    Parallel EU diagram shows no PE-N connections at all.
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    No. Grid and UPS N are both connected to the neutral bar in the main board which is MEN connected to the local earth. This is exactly as Deye diagram and the E of the UPS load on the Deye is not connected.
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    System is now exactly like a TN-C-S MEN system. The Deye are definitely both or none. I can sort of understand because everything is divide by two in the master and sent to the slave. The grid CT is only connected to the master so the slave would not work if not communicating with the master...
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    Dumb lead acid batteries. Yes it fixed that issue but I have others. No Problem with UPS load its N is strapped to the Grid N which is MEN connected to earth at the incoming board basically following Deye diagram. My problem is the master inverter not disconnecting from the grid when the grid...
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    There is more battery information and selectable trending including MPPT voltages which is good information for me. Unfortunately I could not find a trend of the battery SOC which I needed because it went from 50% (the limit set on the time of use) to 3% some time overnight. The battery has...
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    Hopefully they do not change anything without telling me. By the way I now have access to the logging server for these inverters and a lot more information than you can get from the screen. This is good but the security is my main issue.
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    Yes I agree. The internet is a battle ground for the major powers and everyone else is a pawn. After many tries I finally connected the two inverters to the Deye server but through a dedicated router so all i have to do is turn it off..
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    Camera and microphone don't worry me. Cyber attach on the network does. I have first hand experience of this on a system with a very secure gateway. There is no security on the Deye netwrok
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    Deye need the wifi connection to check the inverters. I did not connect this because I don't like the idea of some Chinese server having control of my electrical system. I will have to try and connect it and then disconnect once they have their information but the connection process is not easy.
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    Whatever I do with the grounding arrangement makes no difference to the problems with the inverters.
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    Actually assuming that the transformer earth is at a higher potential the the building earth the N circulating current is in the reverse direction so maybe will not effect the meter.
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    I just realised that the metering is within the circulating current that I have generated so I am going to have to remove the link again. I am not exactly sure how the meter works but my guess is that an increase in N current with no change to L will make the meter record more kWh.
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    Yes I agree a TN-C-S system with MEN links. I had already connected the Grid N to the local E and of course the N to E (local earth stakes) values all went down to Zero and the inverters are now probably better protected. We do however have a significant circulating current which is not...
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    I have two real problems. First the failure of the Master to correctly disconnect from the grid when the grid is lost. I have a temporary fix with another islanding system. Second is the incorrect operation of both MPPT controllers on the Slave which is reducing the solar generation to about...
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    I checked what would happen if I connected the local E to the incoming N and there would be a 4 A circulating current. Obviously one or both of the E connections are not that good most likely the one at the transformer since it is connected to the earth wire of the HT system. It needs this for...
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    I think that the attached are the EU types of earth system.
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    Two wires from transformer. Like a TT system. Just don't know how good the earths are. Using 2 pole breakers ensures correct protection on a TT system. I need an earth impedance tester to check which if either earth is good.
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    Just one clarification. The Deye does not connect the N to E internally in off grid but gives an output for you to do it. I don't like that because it relies on a relay operating correctly to stop the system floating and causes transients. Hence I permanently connected the UPS N to E by using...
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    E to N connection is at the transformer but I don't know how good the E is and may have a voltage to true earth. With this system Deye system diagram connects the grid and load N together and does not earth the load earth terminal. There is one ground system for the main panel and the solar...
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    Incoming supply is 13.2 kV single phase with earth wire. We have a dedicated 13.2 kV/ 230 V 70 kVA pole mounted transformer. One side of the primary and secondary windings are strapped together and connected to the earth wire and also an earth stake at the transformer. There is then a...
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    Yes I did test what happens opening the two grid tie breakers simultaneously and it appeared to work ok but I have now made a detailed test with the attached results. Clearly the master inverter is not completely disconnecting from the grid and has some back voltage. Not good at all and I have...
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    Yes it resets after a minute and goes to ON and NORMAL but after 2 seconds it trips again with the same fault. it only resets and stays reset after the grid power is restored. Yes i do not understand the DC bus unbalanced error F26 but we dont really know what it is looking at to determin an...
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    Maybe. Depends on what you do with the other two phases. Typical generation specs require continuous operation with 8% phase imbalance but usually much less than this.
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    Yes 125 mm2. Not my design but the concept is that for rural distribution you only have to supply one HV cable not three.
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    thanks for all the responses and suggestions. No way this is normal behavior. Maybe but I am not really surprised from my experience. The set up is exactly in accordance with the Deye recommendation for parallel units as attached. The CT is placed as this diagram and connected to the master...
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    Yes they are good units and manage the power exactly as they should but I do have another major problem with them. Where I am in Southern Philippines we loose the grid maybe every couple of weeks. This is usually intentional due to maintenance or load shedding but occasionally due to lightning...
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    this is on my list of tests but not completed yet because it is a significant wiring change.
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    Deye Parallel 8kW not working the same

    i have attached the actual nameplate information which confirms the 22A + 22A MPPTs, maybe your spec sheet is a bit out of date. Certainly the drop off looks a bit like overheating but is does it just the same if the MPPTs are at half capacity. Also the master does not have the problem only...
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