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12V 3300W DC-to-AC (240V) Giandel Inverter - off-grid grounding questions.

- or maybe their customer facing people don't talk to their engineers.


I think nailed it - see Giandel support reply below.

Btw, not quite sure what they mean by:

"The ground wire of our inverter is connected to the shell, which is a relative ground wire, not an absolute ground wire."

I'm assuming what they're trying to say is that because Ground is not bonded to Neutral, then it doesn't have a direct/absolute reference to Neutral?

Anyways, there's no N-G bond.


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Coming back to this thread in case anyone is interested ---> I completed my system and ended up running one of the Inverter AC Outputs into a sub-panel with a single RCBO. I also did the N-G bond in the sub-panel.

Prior to attempting this, I tested for Ghost voltage (i.e. induced / phantom voltage) vs Real voltage to make sure my inverter was capable of handling a N-G bond. I tested this using a Low Impedance (Z) (LoZ) digital multimeter (DMM), which is one way to help identify ghost voltage.

As you can see below, the inverter showed ~half voltage present on L-G and N-G, but when tested using the Low Z feature it showed near zero volts across L-G and N-G, meaning I had ghost voltage, meaning it wasn't real voltage, and it was OK / SAFE to run a N-G bond.


Test / MeasurementL-N (V)L-G (V)N-G (V)
No N-G bond
DMM Volts240109126
DMM Low 'Z' Impedance2400.50.5
With N-G bond
DMM Volts2402400

See attached final schema and image.

I hope this helps others who have this type of of inverter (or similar) and want to add additional safety (e.g. RCD).

Cheers

EDIT 27-Nov-24: Schema updated to reflect the proper position of the N-G bond (which is based on the discussion here)

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Thought I would give you an update on the latest iteration of my 12V system.

Cliff notes:
  • I added a 3rd 12.8V 300Ah battery
  • I updated the Consumer panel to include more RCBOs (this is to future-proof so I can run separate circuits eventually, e.g. lights, fan and power outlets running through individual RCBOs)
    • For example, I could use this system as the main power source to run a small garage or shed
  • I added a 15A power outlet/socket
Potential future-ideas:
  • Add a 3rd MPPT (would give me 150A of incoming solar)
  • update bus bars to 400A
  • update main cables to 4/0 (rated 410A) that run from inverter to battery bank
  • Update DC batter on/off switch to 400A+
  • Replace the incoming solar Circuit Breakers with DC Mini 2-pole switches (I'm running out of board space!)
The above changes would probably MAX things out at all levels for a 12V system, imo.


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