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48V inverter for sailboat

yabert

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Hi
I've hard time to find an high quality 2-3 kW 48V inverter (120V ac) for our sailboat.
There is the Victron Multiplus-II 48/3000, but one really annoying thing is the AC charger input limited to 90-140 VAC, Input frequency: 45 – 65 Hz
Of course if I buy a inverter charger combo I would like to have real universal input voltage of 90-264V, 45-65 Hz.
It's acceptable for me to have an inverter and a charger separate.
Any advice?
Thanks

 
the obvious advice is a ChargeVerter
Yes, I know. I will be able to find a charger fairly easily.
My question is about a 48V inverter.
Is there something high quality beside Victron multiplus-II for a boat in the range of 2-3 kW?
 
We have a Magnum MS4048 on our sailboat. Got it in 2019 but I am not sure if they still make that model. It is 4000 watt though and pretty beefy because of the transformer.
 
I always build with separate chargers and inverters if that helps to answer your question.

That way the input power can be really marginal and it all still works.

Can also use it to have for instance 50 hz coming in and 60 hz going out.
 
Hi
I've hard time to find an high quality 2-3 kW 48V inverter (120V ac) for our sailboat.
There is the Victron Multiplus-II 48/3000, but one really annoying thing is the AC charger input limited to 90-140 VAC, Input frequency: 45 – 65 Hz
Of course if I buy a inverter charger combo I would like to have real universal input voltage of 90-264V, 45-65 Hz.
It's acceptable for me to have an inverter and a charger separate.
Any advice?
Thanks

I prefer separate inverter charger.
edit: I didn't see this was modified sine wave until after I posted
 
Hi
I've hard time to find an high quality 2-3 kW 48V inverter (120V ac) for our sailboat.
There is the Victron Multiplus-II 48/3000, but one really annoying thing is the AC charger input limited to 90-140 VAC, Input frequency: 45 – 65 Hz
Of course if I buy a inverter charger combo I would like to have real universal input voltage of 90-264V, 45-65 Hz.
It's acceptable for me to have an inverter and a charger separate.
Any advice?
Thanks

This is the 48v version of the 24v inverter i am using.
 
Victron is extremely good equipment, and I'd take it over pretty much everything mentioned here. The thing you have to understand is that it isn't a separate inverter and charger in the same chassis. It's more of a T shaped configuration, with the power coming in on the left of the tee, the power going out on the right of the tee, and a transformer going down to the battery at the bottom. The power electronics can then either push power from the battery into the AC connection (inverting) or let power from the AC connection into the battery (charging function) and it can switch back and forth on the fly. By definition with this design, the input voltage has to match the output voltage.

What this means is that you can do things like limit your power input to 20A, and still drive 30A loads on your output, as the inverter/charger will use the battery to boost the output when needed, and do so instantaneously. For an example, I can visit my friend's dock and plug in. It's on the end of a very long, crappy power connection; if I draw more than about 12A the voltage drops too low. So I just set the current limit to 10A, and even if my hot water tank is on its heating cycle, I can still run my little induction coocktop without tripping everything out.

For your situation, I woudl strongly consider getting an isoaltion transformer that can also do the voltage conversion if you really need that. First, isolation transformers are good to have on a boat as they are the best way to protect your underwater metal, and then they also generally are dual tapped, so can deal with the 230 vs 115v issues.

But yeah, I highly recommend going with the victron ecosystem, especially on a boat. I have a fully integrated system (MPPTs, Inverter/charger, third party BMS, Cerbo) and it all works really well together. It also gives me a wealth of data on what my boat is doing at any given time, even when I'm half way around the world. Someone kicks my shorepower plug out? I get an email, and can ask the marina to check on it. My bilge is running a little high? I can turn on on my bilge pump remotely if I have to. It's beautiful kit.
 

yabert how you planing from 48v to 24 to 12v step down​

i am in similar dilemma. but if I go on 48v SMA sunny island,Studer Xtender if you use aircondition or cook on induction. for you look on

Deye SUN-12K​

 
Simply 48V to 12V with a DCDC.
Maybe Victron Orion 48/12
to week i need minimum 400A. maybe i think 48v bank 600ah 48v and make small batery bank 300ah 24v and 50-60A charger. or install simarine pico and see how much real data I consume and need. i buy this boat fresh and system is so complicated. generator 20 kw onan, USA electric system and eu electric system. 2 shore connection 1 for USA split fase 120/240 60hz 1 for standard world 230v50hz
battery bank 6 around boat . DC system 12 and 24v mix mostly 24. inverter don't have use generator, cooking induction,electric grill and one i don't know what is this .way have 2 electric grill outside i don't know.All installation is clean made by professional .distance between this to board is 6-7 meter .first board is close engine room maybe 7-10 m cable I must measure exact.
 

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Hi
I've hard time to find an high quality 2-3 kW 48V inverter (120V ac) for our sailboat.
There is the Victron Multiplus-II 48/3000, but one really annoying thing is the AC charger input limited to 90-140 VAC, Input frequency: 45 – 65 Hz
Of course if I buy a inverter charger combo I would like to have real universal input voltage of 90-264V, 45-65 Hz.
It's acceptable for me to have an inverter and a charger separate.
Any advice?
Thanks

Have you looked at the Samlex evo series?
 
Have you looked at the Samlex evo series?
Thanks to point out.
Still same than Victron: AC INPUT FROM GRID/GENERATOR 120 VAC Nominal (60 - 140 VAC ± 5% selectable) ; 60Hz / 50Hz (40 - 70 Hz selectable)
As Victron cost is way lower than the Samlex equivalent, the choice is easy.
 

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