6000xps + unstable grid

[stopdrpnro]

planning to run parallel 6000xps grid tied. When the grid goes down and there is no solar does the 6000xp give any type of notification?? Are there any features on the 6000xp that help manage the loads when pulling from just battery (besides current draw limits)?

 

[MattMan119]

planning to run parallel 6000xps grid tied. When the grid goes down and there is no solar does the 6000xp give any type of notification?? Are there any features on the 6000xp that help manage the loads when pulling from just battery (besides current draw limits)?

There are some basic controls .. most people use soothing like Solar Assistant or Home Assistant and som even both.

The basics of the app that comes with it give you some of the basic needs .. but the above have more more details.

I have not seen much in the line of L1/L2 management or balancing help to this point.. maybe someone has good tool for that, all I have used in line monitor devices or melters .. but nothing so good that it pops into mind..

 

[DIYrich]

planning to run parallel 6000xps grid tied. When the grid goes down and there is no solar does the 6000xp give any type of notification?? Are there any features on the 6000xp that help manage the loads when pulling from just battery (besides current draw limits)?

The 6000xp is designed to be off-grid, and use the grid like a backup generator. It only switches to the grid when it has to. Otherwise it is oblivious to the grid.

 

[stopdrpnro]

My understanding is once the battery reaches the set dod the grid would kick I to run the loads and re charge the battery. Is that incorrect?

 

[MattMan119]

My understanding is once the battery reaches the set dod the grid would kick I to run the loads and re charge the battery. Is that incorrect?

Yes that is correct …

See below

 

[MattMan119]

planning to run parallel 6000xps grid tied. When the grid goes down and there is no solar does the 6000xp give any type of notification?? Are there any features on the 6000xp that help manage the loads when pulling from just battery (besides current draw limits)?

Yes alerts also not sure if you can get them anything more then in app… see below

They stay without end time till power returns …

 

[dougbert]

I found document that explains things better

https://eg4electronics.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/EG4%C2%AE-6000XP-Monitoring-System-Working-Modes.pdf

 

[stopdrpnro]

Thank you guys for the helpful explanations!! I was a little confused but I'm realizing the can battery can be used to save money or have backup but not really both.

 

[EG4TechSolutionsTeam]

Thank you guys for the helpful explanations!! I was a little confused but I'm realizing the can battery can be used to save money or have backup but not really both.

If you have any other questions, please let me know! I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have.

 

[Recovering EE]

My understanding is once the battery reaches the set dod the grid would kick I to run the loads and re charge the battery. Is that incorrect?

That's correct. I've got mine SOC-based, and have it set to use the grid once SOC gets down to 20%, and grid-charge up to 40%. When it gets to 40%, it will drop the grid, and run on battery again. It's only done so once, when I charged an EV overnight.

In reality, the "grid" for my 6000XP is my commercially-installed Tesla system. The Tesla system is grid-tied, and the 6000XP is then tied to the Tesla system, ie on the house side of the Tesla System Gateway.

When the 6000XP depletes its battery to 20% SOC in its two WallMounts, it starts to use the energy out of the Tesla system's PowerWalls. When the PowerWalls get to 20%, the whole shebang runs on the actual real grid. This has never happened.

 

[MattMan119]

Thank you guys for the helpful explanations!! I was a little confused but I'm realizing the can battery can be used to save money or have backup but not really both.

They can be both, it’s a balancing act.. have enough battery to use for saving money. But when you need a backup the same system can perfrorm as the backup, the batteries can pull double duty …

Another words, use saving money to practice for when you need the backup, they work hand in hand. The better you get at one the better you will be at the other..

 

[Recovering EE]

They can be both, it’s a balancing act.. have enough battery to use for saving money. But when you need a backup the same system can perfrorm as the backup, the batteries can pull double duty …

Another words, use saving money to practice for when you need the backup, they work hand in hand. The better you get at one the better you will be at the other..

And the way this is accomplished is to set the reserve SOC (State Of Charge) for the battery in the system settings. I set mine at 20%. That way, if over night the battery gets down to 20% SOC, the system switches to the grid. This has never happened in my main system.

If a storm is approaching, or there's an earthquake within 250 miles, I change the reserve to 75%. That way, I've got plenty of reserve should the grid go down. After a week or so, I change it back to 20%.

You *can* have your cake and eat it too.

 

[MattMan119]

And the way this is accomplished is to set the reserve SOC (State Of Charge) for the battery in the system settings. I set mine at 20%. That way, if over night the battery gets down to 20% SOC, the system switches to the grid. This has never happened in my main system.

If a storm is approaching, or there's an earthquake within 250 miles, I change the reserve to 75%. That way, I've got plenty of reserve should the grid go down. After a week or so, I change it back to 20%.

You *can* have your cake and eat it too.

@stopdrpnro what he said … there are all kinds of ways have your cake and eat it too..