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The busbar is rated for 400 amps is 8 mm and the cables is 2awg 35mm2.
Sadly, those busbars are Brass and not copper, as others pointed out Brass, especially the more recycled stuff (brass is one of the most recycled metals around), it get's "blonder" the more it is recycled. Blonde = less pure, orange Brass is more pure. Pure Copper busbars are far more expensive but are the best to carry current with minimal resistance. You can totally trust the Victron Busbars to meet & exceed their specifications without question. I use the Amomd ones because they make different designs up to 8-terminal bars as well as block format which many do not offer. They are also well proven to be exactly what they are and they indicate in their descriptions if Red Copper, or Brass etc unlike most others.

5000W Inverter at 51.2V will pull 100A from your batteries to deliver 5000W or 230V/21A. A typical High Frequency model can handle 2X surge or 10,000W (230V/42A) for up to 10 seconds or so +/-. A Low Frequency inverter can handle 3X surge or 15,000W. Sorry, I forget what the KStar can do. As a general rule, it is recommended that a system is wired/cabled for the highest "potential" which for you is 10,000W or 200A from battery. I would suggest nothing less than 1/0 AWG - 50mm2 of Ultra Fine Copper wire to handle that load potential along with properly crimped Tinned Copper (or nickel-plated but more $$) terminals. *the Amp Values shown are not corrected for losses.

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When you charge Lithium Based battery cells it is different than Lead Acid or others in a LOT of ways. Lithium Chemistries are far more efficient. Simply put, the LFP Chemistry max voltage is 3.650V, at 3.700 you are over charging but at 3.450 you are at the Top of the Working Voltage Range and well within the Safe "Allowable Voltage Range". With regards to amps taken during charge, as the cell charges to the "SET" voltage of 3.450, a 314AH cell can accept up to 157A (0.5-C) without issue (it will warm the cells) and that amperage will decrease as the cell tops up or saturates (depth of charge).
Example:
If you charge to 3.450 and stop the moment you hit that voltage, that is a "surface" charge and will drop significantly as power is cut off.
If you charge to 3.450 and allow Amps taken to drop down to 15A, that is "properly" 100% full charge and will only drop minimally as soon as charge power is off. It is Normal for Voltage to drop & settle as soon as incoming power stops.

You can allow the cells to charge to 3.450V and have the amps taken drop down to 1.0A without ANY WORRY about causing harms.

LASTLY: There are some posts which I cannot see as those users are Blocked and for GOOD reasons. I am just sharing knowledge from years of being at this and helping a lot of people. I am an electronics engineer (retired) by trade and no "kid" as I am North of 60 years old. My experiences include Military & Governmental Systems and out to commercial/consumer materials. It is all entirely up to you as to what information you want to take from my posts IF ANY, there's nothing in it for me in any way as I am just trying to guide you into a successfully functional system to cover what you want to do. Also I have a special attachment to Greece as my Godmother was an incredibly wise & tough greek woman... You know what I mean I am sure.
 
Actually, when the current goes into the battery — for example, 15 amps at 3.45V — it triggers a slight difference in internal resistance, and the delta is not accurate because of that. (This is just my opinion.) Maybe it's better to let the absorption phase continue until the tail current reaches 0 amps, and then perform balancing at that stage
 
Actually, when the current goes into the battery — for example, 15 amps at 3.45V — it triggers a slight difference in internal resistance, and the delta is not accurate because of that. (This is just my opinion.) Maybe it's better to let the absorption phase continue until the tail current reaches 0 amps, and then perform balancing at that stage
The cells deltas WILL vary internally a little bit and that is not unusual especially with larger cells. TailCurrent/EndAmps is important and really should stick to the formula rule. 100AH X 0.05 = 5A, 314AH x 0.05=15A.7/16A Absorb tries to force the amperage as set.
Entering FLOAT at 15A allows the current to decrease "naturally" for the cells AND the Solar Controller(s) causing no systemic stress.
Absorb is Constant Voltage, Constant Current
Float is Constant Voltage, Variable current.

Cell deviations during change can go up to 30-40mv but that levels out as they reach Set Voltage Point and then the active balancer will "tidy" it up. I Start Active Balancing at 3.420 allowing for 0.005mv deviation and Bulk/Absorb to 3.455 Volts Per Cell. Entering into Float and fully balanced, the cells settle to 3.405 - 3.395 depending on what loads may be present.

* Cells that are properly Matched & Batched will stay much closer together voltage/resistance wise than cells which are Voltage Matched or B/Bulk cells which failed A-Grading.

Another NOTE on FLOAT. Assume your batteries are at True 100% and taking no current. The Solar Controllers will continue to service the load of the Inverter etc UP TO the amount of power they can output without requiring Battery Energy to be used. I can sit here and run my home all afternoon with fully charged batteries taking 0A and just using the Float Generating capacity to power everything in my home. If the Well Pump or other "heavy" kicks on, the float will provide what it can (dependent on solar input) and the remaining balance is pulled from the battery bank. As soon as the load is over, then Float will step up & start to top off the battery bank again.

Trying to push more AMPS into the LFP than they want to take (resistance lowers amps taken as they charge to max) will not do good for the cells and will "stress" the solar controllers. some may try to argue that but it is visible when the SCC's try to burn off the excess by creating heat & more... depending on "class" of Solar Contoller.
 
I am not sure this is accurate. a lot of folks try to use their influence to make sales... pretty sure thats what going on. You might think differently... thats the joy of free speech you think one thing, I think another.
Agreed, people who tout how awesome Winston Cells are the worse. They must has some ulterior motive.

They even post on Eve or catl threads that people should have just bought Winston’s.
 
WOW: The vociferous hatred, name calling and slanderous crap is something I just saw coming from Members I've blocked is sick... Seriously, go play those games on X/Twiit Land, that anger/rage filled crap does not belong here where are are mostly focused on helping each other while educating/enlightening/troubleshooting issues... This is the stuff that drives us old timers away...

Do whatever you folks wants to this site (you are harming it overall and not helping anyone or anything)

TO THE OP @panos851 you have been given plenty of information and tips to help with your system. Use your critical thinking and consider the information and apply what you feel is correct. Do remember that there is only one responsible person and that is YOU... It is Your System, Your Investment and liability/responsibility if it goes Poof (the art of DIY - it's all on the individual doing it for themselves) I will wish you good luck as I am now withdrawing from this filthied thread.

Good Luck to everyone on the Adventure of DIY Solar.
Steve_S. Elbows Up !
 
WOW: The vociferous hatred, name calling and slanderous crap is something I just saw coming from Members I've blocked is sick... Seriously, go play those games on X/Twiit Land, that anger/rage filled crap does not belong here where are are mostly focused on helping each other while educating/enlightening/troubleshooting issues... This is the stuff that drives us old timers away...

Do whatever you folks wants to this site (you are harming it overall and not helping anyone or anything)

TO THE OP @panos851 you have been given plenty of information and tips to help with your system. Use your critical thinking and consider the information and apply what you feel is correct. Do remember that there is only one responsible person and that is YOU... It is Your System, Your Investment and liability/responsibility if it goes Poof (the art of DIY - it's all on the individual doing it for themselves) I will wish you good luck as I am now withdrawing from this filthied thread.

Good Luck to everyone on the Adventure of DIY Solar.
Steve_S. Elbows Up !
whaaa.... you need some meds?
 
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