Anker SOLIX X1 Cost

[solarguy456]

Just watched a video on the Anker SOLIX X1 home backup unit.

Would like to compare it to an EG4 6000XP and an PowerPro battery since the specs are similar. The only feature that the X1 has over the 6000XP is it can push power back on the grid.

They want you to give all your information before they tell you how much it costs. Anybody go through the quote process and know how much the system costs?

Thanks.

 

[Dominic]

Can’t find a price anywhere..

 

[Nobodybusiness]

Just watched a video on the Anker SOLIX X1 home backup unit.

Would like to compare it to an EG4 6000XP and an PowerPro battery since the specs are similar. The only feature that the X1 has over the 6000XP is it can push power back on the grid.

They want you to give all your information before they tell you how much it costs. Anybody go through the quote process and know how much the system costs?

Thanks.

Guess they won’t be selling many that way.

 

[willshakespeare]

They aren’t publishing any prices and not giving any quotes. I suspect it’s going to be Tesla model, propriety installers who can pick up the 30% credit as installation cost

 

[zanydroid]

It’s a UL9540 unit so it’ll probably costs more than a 6000XP / PowerPro which is not.

And I have an anti-need to fanboy over a ESS from Anker. The previous SOLIX release was a bit cringe with how they marketed it and wrote the specs — I wasted an hour deciphering what “AC coupling” meant… it’s not what this forum expects. In my mind Anker will hopefully exist just to push down prices for other brands

 

[glandpuck]

I have watched the videos of the Anker Solix X1. Looks great until .........

You realize that it is completely proprietary. If Anker fails, you are done for, no warranty, no repair, no service. Another issue is that Anker spent so much time making this unit only 5.5 inches in depth, that the battery stacks are very limited in the videos so far. I could be wrong, but it looks like every stack I have seen has an inverter on the top. And if you stack more than say 4 batteries and the inverter, then the inverter is too high to reach standing on the ground.

Next, each inverter is only 6.6 kW. That's low. Many homes will need 3-4 inverters to power the home and HVAC. That's a lot of wall width. If you have 4 inverters, what do you do, put 2 batteries on each for 40 kW . Do they share all the batteries so one inverter is the master? And what about the battery voltage, it means for larger cabling.

It's got a lot of great features from the technology point of view, but the packaging is very limited and it seem intended for smaller homes and easy installation rather than larger homes that need a more robust inverter and 60-100 kW of back up.

Lastly, remember the Sony beta VCR. They were proprietary too and the best, but other companies drove it to extinction with VHS. If Anker is soo good, license your technology, put it in different package forms to reach more homes and businesses.

For now, I think the best solution out there is Sol-Ark due to the range of inverter capacities and the wide range of battery compatibility with battery closed loop functionality. It simply meets more needs, indoor and outdoor while providing future safeguards if the inverter fails or the batteries fail.

Where Sol-Ark needs to head is in the use of high voltage battery stacks and an outdoor convection cooling design.

 

[Nobodybusiness]

Where Sol-Ark needs to head is in the use of high voltage battery stacks

I think they are doing that with the 3 phase models.. 160vdc - 800vdc input.

 

[silverlexg]

The other thing thats not immediately obvious but its ac-coupled solar only, so no MPPT's. So you'll need to add in the cost/complexity of micro-inverters to add solar to it.

 

[zanydroid]

The other thing thats not immediately obvious but its ac-coupled solar only, so no MPPT's. So you'll need to add in the cost/complexity of micro-inverters to add solar to it.

Or buy a grid tie string inverter

 

[glandpuck]

Well, I already have two SMA grid tie inverters totaling 8600 kW. Why do I want to keep using 9 year old inverters and add more inverters? I just want a hybrid inverter and batteries. I know SMA hybrids are available, but tied only to a high voltage BYD battery stack. I like a more open architecture.

 

[bhavin66]

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[Madcodger]

One thing I'm starting to notice is that if your early marketing is primarily paid sponsorship of YouTube personalities (e.g., Ambition Strikes) you may not be for me. Likely expensive, with a lot more "cool factor" than I need. I do see about a zillion EG4 and Victron videos, but most don't appear to be paid placement/sponsorship, so I'm less skeptical/cynical. The Anker stuff looks great, but I have less than no need for micro inverters and super skinny equipment, and I suspect that's true for many on this forum.

 

[Rednecktek]

What did he say? 400v? In that small a space? That's like 120P, sooooo... NOT nice safe LFP in a small package?

What's that? You need UL as well as NEC stickers?

 

[zanydroid]

Why is it so common to assume that GTI / AC Couple -> Microinverters?

Could also be retrofiting an older setup prior to Enphase's success. Or SolarEdge

 

[bhavin66]

The more i read into it is the old world high voltage battery storage like Tesla Powerwall or LG Resu in the US and likes of Growatt and made it modular with the the intelligence added in an external box like Tesla for switching.

 

[glandpuck]

My only issue with this Anker Solix 1 is that it is not a very robust solution, but it is a compact and clean solution.

 

[glandpuck]

It looks like Tesla Powerwall three prices have dropped. A drawback to them for me is two things: generator support is via a transfer switch. In a power outage, the Powerwall runs on batteries, then as they proceed down to zero, the Powerwall uses a signal to start the generator and auto transfer switch to power the loads, BUT DOES NOT CHARGE UP THE BATTERIES. I also would like to see a Tesla Power pad model. Not ever home has the wall space for 3-4 units. If they could come out with a pad mounted design the way a generator or AC condenser is mounted, that would be great. Hear me Tesla??

 

[Brucey]

It looks like Tesla Powerwall three prices have dropped. A drawback to them for me is two things: generator support is via a transfer switch. In a power outage, the Powerwall runs on batteries, then as they proceed down to zero, the Powerwall uses a signal to start the generator and auto transfer switch to power the loads, BUT DOES NOT CHARGE UP THE BATTERIES. I also would like to see a Tesla Power pad model. Not ever home has the wall space for 3-4 units. If they could come out with a pad mounted design the way a generator or AC condenser is mounted, that would be great. Hear me Tesla??

Interesting, so the power wall 3 can only charge from PV? No internal ac charger?

 

[glandpuck]

Interesting, so the power wall 3 can only charge from PV? No internal ac charger?

I believe it charges from the grid tie and PV, but there is no direct generator connection. There is a transfer switch installed and the generator is triggered to start by wire, but no direct power connection from generator to Powerwall for charging batteries.

 

[corey66]

Anyone know if the Anker Solix X1 can be DIY installed? Anyone buy this system yet? I'm thinking of buying 2x 6kw systems eventually for AC-AC coupled systems pairing with my SMA inverters.

 

[zanydroid]

Anyone know if the Anker Solix X1 can be DIY installed? Anyone buy this system yet? I'm thinking of buying 2x 6kw systems eventually for AC-AC coupled systems pairing with my SMA inverters.

What's the value prop of X1 vs the more heavily analyzed inverters around here?

It's not on my radar for my NEM2+Storage expansion. MidNite One and 18kpv are. As are checking 9540 DC ESS battery prices every 3 months to see if I can pair it with 1741SB hybrids

 

[Haysdb]

I have watched the videos of the Anker Solix X1. Looks great until .........

You realize that it is completely proprietary. If Anker fails, you are done for, no warranty, no repair, no service. Another issue is that Anker spent so much time making this unit only 5.5 inches in depth, that the battery stacks are very limited in the videos so far. I could be wrong, but it looks like every stack I have seen has an inverter on the top. And if you stack more than say 4 batteries and the inverter, then the inverter is too high to reach standing on the ground.

Next, each inverter is only 6.6 kW. That's low. Many homes will need 3-4 inverters to power the home and HVAC. That's a lot of wall width. If you have 4 inverters, what do you do, put 2 batteries on each for 40 kW . Do they share all the batteries so one inverter is the master? And what about the battery voltage, it means for larger cabling.

It's got a lot of great features from the technology point of view, but the packaging is very limited and it seem intended for smaller homes and easy installation rather than larger homes that need a more robust inverter and 60-100 kW of back up.

Lastly, remember the Sony beta VCR. They were proprietary too and the best, but other companies drove it to extinction with VHS. If Anker is soo good, license your technology, put it in different package forms to reach more homes and businesses.

For now, I think the best solution out there is Sol-Ark due to the range of inverter capacities and the wide range of battery compatibility with battery closed loop functionality. It simply meets more needs, indoor and outdoor while providing future safeguards if the inverter fails or the batteries fail.

Where Sol-Ark needs to head is in the use of high voltage battery stacks and an outdoor convection cooling design.

6.6 kW of AC output is not low. The Tesla PowerWall 3 can output 11.5 kW but the battery systems I’m familiar with max out around 5 kW. You must live in a pretty nice neighborhood if you need 20 kWh of power and 45 kWh to 60 kWh of battery.

 

[Haysdb]

My only issue with this Anker Solix 1 is that it is not a very robust solution, but it is a compact and clean solution.

“Not robust” meaning what exactly?

 

[silverlexg]

“Not robust” meaning what exactly?

low power output? 6.6kw is not competitive when compared with a PW3, Solark, EG4, BLUETTI etc.