Whata the best deal out there today for about 200ah of lithium with integrated bms and a warranty?
It's not even that simple unfortunately. The warranties go from 30 days to a decade. I'm working on a comprehensive comparison of all popularly available batteries, but it's getting more unmanageable as I go, so it will take me a while. The current best deal is the BYD batteries with Will's suggested setup, posted very recently.
can you point me to the thread?
...what he said.Our own cost on them just went up again at the beginning of the month (second time this year), but we're still shipping them out at $926.25 each for 1-3 or $897.75 each for 4 or more. That's forum-member discount through the rest of the month, so anyone interested can email me or call, since our website still has them at the retail $949.
...we're really hoping the tariffs lay off next year, since nobody -including BB themselves- can hold end-user prices down through too many more cost increases.
That being said, I too have heard of BB sending them out at further-discounted prices if you just call and ask, so that's definitely worth a try.
I can't say I agree with any statements of any manufacturer being both better and cheaper than BB... I'm not a fan of their prices either, but their track record speaks for itself in terms of longevity, durability, and construction methods (as Will proved in his disassembly). Lots of cheaper options out there, but I'm a firm believer that you usually get what you pay for.
Of course, having said that, I'll also add that I'm not at all a fan of Victron's LFPs... which I probably shouldn't say as a Victron distributor, but it's the truth. Don't get me wrong, they're top quality cells and top quality construction, but the drop-ins have too many caveats (.5C discharge, no serial connection) and the larger models with the external BMS get finicky as hell if they're not in an all-Victron system. When it comes to all-around performance, ease of use, durability, warranty, and flexibility, I don't think BB has much competition.
So you paid about $900 each for 5?
That is a lot of storage for the money to be sure!I have been testing my 1100 AH build of Eve Prismatic Cells now for 6 months of real field use. I'm convinced they are just as good as any packaged products (Battleborn, Relion, yada) drop in batteries. I have a colleague with 400 AH of battleborn about the same electronic system that I have (I got more solar) and cannot see any difference in real life use.
The Eve Cells are:
1. More compact
2. More configurable
3. Same or better discharge/charge profiles
4. Had no issues in 6 months. Working perfect.
5. COST A WOPPING HELL OF A LOT LESS. Battleborn is using Chinese cells they buy in mass quantity and probably build the whole battery for 80 bucks. They are making a ton of dough on them. 1120AH of the EVE cells cost me about $1500, delivered including a separate BMS. BB would cost you about ten grand for the same capacity.
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