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grizzzman said:
The simple question is.......... How can you pardon someone who has not been found guilty of a crime? This implies that there is guilt in all parties involved. This needs to be challenged by the supreme court.
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Previously, really hadn't been done. Biden floated it with hunter a few weeks ago pardoning him from everything he may or may not have done in the past 10 years, to see if it stuck.

Well, people were confused by it, not sure if it was legal or not, but he's on his way out, so folks didn't pay it much attention.

Biden/friends saw this reaction, then just hit ctrl c + ctrl v about a hundred times for his entire administration and family.
 
fatjay said:
Previously, really hadn't been done. Biden floated it with hunter a few weeks ago pardoning him from everything he may or may not have done in the past 10 years, to see if it stuck.

Well, people were confused by it, not sure if it was legal or not, but he's on his way out, so folks didn't pay it much attention.

Biden/friends saw this reaction, then just hit ctrl c + ctrl v about a hundred times for his entire administration and family.
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There may be another way around it for his family ....... I seriously doubt all the payments have come thru all those shell companies yet ..... just grab the next one and prosecute them on that.
A pardon doesn't cover future crimes ..... it also prevents them from taking the 5th amendment in a lot of circumstances.
 
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fatjay said:
Previously, really hadn't been done. Biden floated it with hunter a few weeks ago pardoning him from everything he may or may not have done in the past 10 years, to see if it stuck.

Well, people were confused by it, not sure if it was legal or not, but he's on his way out, so folks didn't pay it much attention.

Biden/friends saw this reaction, then just hit ctrl c + ctrl v about a hundred times for his entire administration and family.
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On Sunday, September 8, 1974, President Ford addressed the nation from the Oval Office to announce his decision to “grant a full, free and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed.”
I remember exactly where I was when this went down. Nixon was never charged or convicted of any crimes.
 
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Ozark Tinkering said:
On Sunday, September 8, 1974, President Ford addressed the nation from the Oval Office to announce his decision to “grant a full, free and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed.”
I remember exactly where I was when this went down. Nixon was never charged or convicted of any crimes.
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Yes but that's a departing president, it's specific. Biden did his son, family, and rest of his crooked administration. It sets a precedent.
 
fatjay said:
Yes but that's a departing president, it's specific. Biden did his son, family, and rest of his crooked administration. It sets a precedent.
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Do you remember when Trump pardoned family in his first term?


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Kushner is the father of Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump’s husband, so essentially, Trump did his daughter’s father-in-law a solid.

The elder Kushner founded Kushner Companies in 1985, a prominent real estate development firm based in New York City.
In 2005, Charles Kushner was convicted of preparing false tax returns, falsifying statements to the Federal Election Commission, and witness retaliation, according to USA Today. Among his crimes was a shocking scheme involving hiring a prostitute to entrap his brother-in-law, videotaping the interaction, and sending the tape to his sister to intimidate her from cooperating as a witness, the outlet reported.
He served 16 months of a two-year sentence before being released in 2006. Trump pardoned him in 2020, citing Kushner’s devotion to philanthropic contributions as justification for the decision.
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Yes, Donald Trump Did Pardon a Family Member During His First Presidential Term

Trump pardoned Charles Kushner, the father of Ivanka Trump's husband, Jared Kushner, in 2020, citing his philanthropic contributions as justification.
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It was not before a charge or sentence had been made. That is the part that is mind numbing with Biden pardons no charges . So what was the crime based pardon for with Biden pardons? The Left threw a fit over this pardon. I think he was done anyway been in prison and all for Charles Kushner.

I don't get the tribalism and it pisses me off. PPL are guilty on both sides. Several members went to prison vs testifying on RIGHT count them Bannon and 3-4 more while Biden was going after ppl. Seem fair? Bannon and others should be pissed.


Why did trump pass eo stating the federal government would not be weaponized against former admins? Signed it other day.
 
Ok that is entirely different than what biden did, because kushner was tried and convicted in 2005, nearly 20 years ago. We know exactly what he did.

Biden pardon'd his family with a pre-emptive blanket pardon, so we'll never know what they did. There can never be an investigation, there will never be a trial, evidence will never be presented.
 
fatjay said:
Ok that is entirely different than what biden did, because kushner was tried and convicted in 2005, nearly 20 years ago. We know exactly what he did.

Biden pardon'd his family with a pre-emptive blanket pardon, so we'll never know what they did. There can never be an investigation, there will never be a trial, evidence will never be presented.
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Did I not state it was prior and he had already served sentence? Lately it seems everyone is not reading. They are living in their own world or something. No problem.

For Biden to give them a pardon there had to be a known crime. Right? 🤣😂 to my knowledge there has never been a get out of jail free based on everything. From now on each president can and will do that.

Trump did pardon family. The news media went on about it for months. Some ppl like you stated did not know Trump has pardoned family. If one of Trumps sons had been in trouble he would have done same as Biden ,.... am 99.9% sure of it because Trump made comments to that effect for understanding Biden... good luck finding that.... the search engines are running like super glue dumped on them. Pop ups everywhere on websites again. Whistle.
What can show is Trump says he would pardon Hunter Biden before Joe Biden did it.

If you want to see 2 dimensions watch fox news then flip other channels on democrat own streaming channel- Pluto Tv.... there is the old night and day contrast again for reporting news. Faux news ppl will be spouting different versions of the news then others. Can tell Trump is back. IT HELPS TO KEEP PPL ARGUING.
 
I'm always intrigued when people .... if they are what they claim ..... are having the opposite reaction to Trump's actions .... and other things ..... from what would be expected ..... I think we should all be on the lookout for that and store it away in our memory.
 
Bob B said:
I'm always intrigued when people .... if they are what they claim ..... are having the opposite reaction to Trump's actions .... and other things ..... from what would be expected ..... I think we should all be on the lookout for that and store it away in our memory.
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What are you talking about? Why store anything away?
 
20 Jun 2023 hmmm not shocked about pardons

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grizzzman said:
The Powers to be have left Biden's case open to avoid having to release info requested from the house.
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You got me because did not quote and link to it.

Can’t find the post now but the article stated “fbi were closing all corruption criminal cases into hunter biden with settlement of these plea bargaining deals.” If the laptop info is included then closed basically means can legal worms for future charges. Since current House case was over irs and past fbi = whistleblowers and also included in case plea means can legal worms too. If all else fails Joe says “Pardoned.” case...
 
Many of these folks could be called before a congressional committee, placed under oath and we can all pray they lie or perjure themselves then Pam Bondi can file charges.

I would really like to hear what Liz Cheney has to say about all the J6 committee records she disappeared.
 
fatjay said:
Ok that is entirely different than what biden did, because kushner was tried and convicted in 2005, nearly 20 years ago. We know exactly what he did.

Biden pardon'd his family with a pre-emptive blanket pardon, so we'll never know what they did. There can never be an investigation, there will never be a trial, evidence will never be presented.
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I thought about this a bit earlier.... They can still have an investigation, they can even charge them with crimes, they just cannot impose any sentence upon them as they have a pardon already... world of difference. you can still out them to the world and anybody they got cash from... shine enough light and one of those people that paid them off will get tired of it and off them for us.
 
Daddy Tanuki said:
I thought about this a bit earlier.... They can still have an investigation, they can even charge them with crimes, they just cannot impose any sentence upon them as they have a pardon already... world of difference. you can still out them to the world and anybody they got cash from... shine enough light and one of those people that paid them off will get tired of it and off them for us.
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They can charge but can't convict or sentence, which means it would be a waste of taxpayer dollars, which I don't think would fly.
 
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fatjay said:
They can charge but can't convict or sentence, which means it would be a waste of taxpayer dollars, which I don't think would fly.
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Everyone didn't get a pardon. So call in the ones who did, ask the hard questions. They can't hide behind the 5th. They'll lie, Democrats can't help themselves lying is their first rule. Then pop them for perjury. Use the information they give up to prosecute the ones who didn't get a pardon.


Then overturn the pardons issued by a mentally unfit President and prosecute them all. Democrats have been playing hardball, it's time Republicans join in the spirit of the game. It's only our country at stake....
 
fatjay said:
They can charge but can't convict or sentence, which means it would be a waste of taxpayer dollars, which I don't think would fly.
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what like all of the kangaroo court shit they had been doing for the last 4 years? as screwed up as our budget is whats a couple of billion to drag them through the mud for the next four years.. do it low key cost wise using basic harassment filings.. fuck them i want blood. I want any who come behind them to say you know what its not worth fucking over the Public
 
Daddy Tanuki said:
what like all of the kangaroo court shit they had been doing for the last 4 years? as screwed up as our budget is whats a couple of billion to drag them through the mud for the next four years.. do it low key cost wise using basic harassment filings.. fuck them i want blood. I want any who come behind them to say you know what its not worth fucking over the Public
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That's when it's in their favor. Unlimited spending forever. It's (D)ifferent.

I agree, I want my money back. The money they used to attempt to destroy democracy. The money they used to agressively pursue my peers. The money that I have to pay extra with every transaction due to inflation.

I'm tired of it, anyone who complains one lick about trump and threatens anything, I'll take them up on their offer. There's a whole lot of people that need a skull thump and put in their place.
 
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They might still be alive if the sniper had been green lighted. That is on Commander in Chief Biden going down. That is the military structure. The billions of dollars in actual military grade weapons left there in pull out will show up around the World in the hands of bad ppl.
 
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