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CHINA kills all non Sol-Ark branded DEYE unit in the USA this morning.

Kornbread said:
Chuckled a little on the inside when seeing this in the SolarAssistant changelog ...

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So, they only gave two weeks for people to update to the new firmware before shutting them all down?

That seems a bit risky, unless the units are automatically upgrading every hour, in background, given an internet connection. Any who had not already been upgraded by the time "D-Day" had arrived would be fully warned to disconnect from the internet and allow no further updates.
 
DVD said:
After the mudslinging and name calling……. Three questions
1) did in fact inverters get shut down remotely? Yes, no, maybe?
2) can it happen to anyone else? Yes, no, maybe?
3) what will each person/entity do about it? Disconnect before it happens, wait for it to happen, don’t really care if it happens?

A similar thought algorithm can be applied to most things in life. Don’t you think?

Just a note of sanity in a seemingly insane world.
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I recently installed a 12kw I don't even know where I threw that dongle
 
marionw said:
You are absolutely right, you do not need to prove anything.
I am suspicious in part because you have been a member since October 13th 2020 but have only posted 15 messages, all on this thread. You do not appear to have participated in any way anywhere else on this forum. I would assume as a Deye owner you would have posted messages on other threads concerning Deye inverters. There are a number of threads related to Deye inverters on this forum.

I do hope that @Will Prowse and the Administrators of this site can at least validate the legitimacy of the participants in this thread.
I assume that the backend database keeps track of logins and the activity of members. Particularly member searches and the threads they are interested in. It all seems to convenient. I do tend to be suspicious, maybe overly so....
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Sorry, man, but I disagree. I joined I think a couple of years ago when I started looking. My house is taking longer to get finished than I expected, so I haven't posted in a while. Once I get my system up and running, say in a year or so, I likely won't be posting often, either. As it is, I haven't posted in months, and before that, it may have been a year?

Far more suspicious would be someone who joined in November 2024. IMHO.
 
As a matter of US national security, this incident really raises questions about the wisdom of buying any device from China that is critical infrastructure. In a regional military or political conflict, can the CCP just order all Chinese manufacturers to shut off critical infrastructure all across the US?
 
Tulex said:
Sol-Ark has a contract with China. They have a right to hold China to that contract.
The hardware Sol-Ark sells is not affected.
China has no power over Sol-Ark, just the opposite. Sol-Ark has the power to hold China to the contracts.
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I think this completely misses the point. China has 100% of the power, and Sol-Ark has none. In this case China exercised that power in order to honor a business agreement with Sol-Ark. In the future, China can exercise that power for any reason they care to find, or for any reason the CCP will make up and order companies to follow. Your Deye systems have a backdoor that lets China alone decide who lives and who dies.
 
pone said:
I think this completely misses the point. China has 100% of the power, and Sol-Ark has none. In this case China exercised that power in order to honor a business agreement with Sol-Ark. In the future, China can exercise that power for any reason they care to find, or for any reason the CCP will make up and order companies to follow. Your Deye systems have a backdoor that lets China alone decide who lives and who dies.
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Only if your dumb enough to keep your equipment connected to the internet :)

My equipment has no direct connection to the net. Its all buffered/firewalled so the only thing it can talk directly to is my local network.
 
Crowz said:
Only if your dumb enough to keep your equipment connected to the internet :)

My equipment has no direct connection to the net. Its all buffered/firewalled so the only thing it can talk directly to is my local network.
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I don't know the functions of the Deye cloud well enough to understand the implications of keeping your inverter offline. But this Deye video makes it pretty clear that the Deye cloud allows you to see the operation of your solar system from anywhere in the world using Deye cloud.

Maybe you would never leave home, but I would, and wanting to check in on the panel remotely would not be an option for me.

Even at home, if I had a power event at 3 am I would appreciate checking on the operation from my bedroom instead of slogging outside to get physical access to the inverter.
 
Crowz said:
I can "access" my equipment from anywhere in the world. But the equipment itself can't get to the internet directly.

This is the correct way to secure your inverter if your worried about that.
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Are you going in by a command line interface? How are you visualizing the flow of elements in the system? The Deye cloud is giving you a graphical interface to the system function.
 
Between home assistant and solar assistant I have anything I could possibly want to see to know what my systems are doing at any time. Both of these products can be completely isolated from the net and yet accessible from anywhere.

Also the equipment can only connect to these products and not the internet itself.
 
wiseacre said:
I'd like to see your fish room 😍
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4 50 gallons fish tanks, 20 5 gallon fish tanks, 7 10 gallon fish tanks :)

Wife wanted to raise fish at one time. Were down 2 active 50 gallon tanks now.
Those suckers have 2 300 watt water heaters each....

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Waiting on the fish to die off from old age then selling it all off 🥳
 
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Crowz said:
Between home assistant and solar assistant I have anything I could possibly want to see to know what my systems are doing at any time. Both of these products can be completely isolated from the net and yet accessible from anywhere.

Also the equipment can only connect to these products and not the internet itself.
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What is the architecture for the inverter to give the data to those applications?
 
pone said:
What is the architecture for the inverter to give the data to those applications?
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Any inverter that can feed to a mqqt server can do what you saw. Also any inverter that solar assistant supports can do what you saw also since solar assistant can feed what data it has to a mqqt server. Home assistant can use data from anything that can feed to a mqqt server.

Also home assistant natively supports a wide range of inverters itself and can be setup to handle even more than that if you have are willing to write the code for it to do it.
 
pone said:
What is the architecture for the inverter to give the data to those applications?
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rs485 and/or canbus with modbus protocol.

It is a pretty old protocol, modbus allows you to query the defined parameters and set the ones that can be changed.

In the EG4/Luxpower models the WiFi dongle connects to modbus and everything that their cloud can do is done via the wifi dongle to the modbus. Likely most inverters work this exact same way as there are simple cheap devices to interface modbus to tcpip. The wifi dongle EG4/Luxpower uses is a very generic device made to work with modbus.
 
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