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CHINA kills all non Sol-Ark branded DEYE unit in the USA this morning.

Crowz said:
1.Setup vpn.
2.Have unit go thru vpn and get free code.
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The challenge is how to get a VPN-protected hotspot. Was talking to a friend about this.

His recommendation was trying one of these $30 routers on Amazon which he said can generate a VPN-protected WiFi access point.

GL-MT300N-V2
GL-AR300M16

Choose a non-U.S. based IP, maybe Mexico, any country where you're sure Deye is legal. When the Deye connects to the non-US IP, it MAY automatically unbrick itself. That would be the best case scenario. Obviously depends on how Deye set things up.

If if it doesn't automatically unbrick, then make sure Deye is connected to your non-U.S. ip and contact Deye and ask for the unlock code.

"Sí, sí, este es Pancho Gonzales en México."

No guarantees, but this might be the first thing to try.
 
I see a bunch of #neversolark tags and stuff in this thread and its kind of funny.

Sol-ark has said ALL ALONG that they have EXCLUSIVE rights to the US market. I imagine at least 80% of all of the purchasers of these units knew this when they bought it.

100% of the people on this forum knew it and a bunch have been bragging about how cheap their units were vs going thru sol-ark.

Getting mad at deye might make sense. Getting mad at sol-ark makes no sense at all.

If you have one of these units that sol-ark paid money to be the exclusive rights too for that unit then you can think of it as now having to pay that sol-ark tax you were so proud of getting around.

I'm not against people doing it but you rolled the dice and lost. I imagine sol-ark will demand the profit margin money wise for the codes as a guess. I would if I was them.

If it was me I'd do the vpn and never connect it to the net again. But getting mad at sol-ark makes no sense.
 
Crowz said:
If you have one of these units that sol-ark paid money to be the exclusive rights too for that unit then you can think of it as now having to pay that sol-ark tax you were so proud of getting around.
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Nobodybusiness said:
enforcement of contract is not a crime.

If you can’t stop people from selling or buying them then Alternative methods must prevail.
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Amazing there are people in this thread gloating about and/or defending Deye's actions.
 
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Maybe not Deye marketing directly in the US but grey importers of Deye ?
 
Crowz said:
I see a bunch of #neversolark tags and stuff in this thread and its kind of funny.

Sol-ark has said ALL ALONG that they have EXCLUSIVE rights to the US market. I imagine at least 80% of all of the purchasers of these units knew this when they bought it.

100% of the people on this forum knew it and a bunch have been bragging about how cheap their units were vs going thru sol-ark.

Getting mad at deye might make sense. Getting mad at sol-ark makes no sense at all.

If you have one of these units that sol-ark paid money to be the exclusive rights too for that unit then you can think of it as now having to pay that sol-ark tax you were so proud of getting around.

I'm not against people doing it but you rolled the dice and lost. I imagine sol-ark will demand the profit margin money wise for the codes as a guess. I would if I was them.

If it was me I'd do the vpn and never connect it to the net again. But getting mad at sol-ark makes no sense.
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#neversolark is not a new thing. I've been saying it for over a year because solark is a greedy, unethical and dishonest bunch of used car salesmen who dont belong in this industry.
 
Will Prowse said:
I feel like EG4 will completely dominate sol ark in the next year or so. Unless I'm missing some other income source.
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DIY is only 2% of the whole Solar market, it does not mean all that much to Sol-Arks annual Sales figures.
Will Prowse said:
I'm just rambling though. Tell me if I'm being ignorant here
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I know Sol-Ark Inverter sales are a lot bigger than EG4 and that is because most installers won't touch a EG4 product due to the bad support record and buggy 18Kpv firmware. As my Installer friend always says to me, he just wants to Install and Move on to the next Job. He can do that with Sol-Ark because they will take care of customer support on the Inverter for him without any kind of back and forth hastling.

Secondly why would EG4 be so upset about Sol-Ark not wanting to support EG4 batteries if Sol-Ark was not selling a whole lot of Inverters?

Why would James keep going out of his way to bad mouth Sol-Ark every month if they were not hurting his Sales?
The company that is not whinning is typically the one that is making the money!
 
Sol ark CEO was not nice to me at the solar conference. I'll never forget. Instant accusations that I am being paid under the table by EG4. Smug attitude and tone. And my sol ark 15K video got more views than any other channel. No appreciation or thank you. Just instant confrontation.

I do like some of the employees at sol ark. One is here on the forum and is a really good guy. But that CEO was not nice. Just a bad vibe.

Really made me instantly hate sol ark 😂 thought I should ignore it and review them anyways to help everyone, but I really just don't like what I've been hearing about them here on the forum.
 
robby said:
DIY is only 2% of the whole Solar market, it does not mean all that much to Sol-Arks annual Sales figures.


I know Sol-Ark Inverter sales are a lot bigger than EG4 and that is because most installers won't touch a EG4 product due to the bad support record and buggy 18Kpv firmware. As my Installer friend always says to me, he just wants to Install and Move on to the next Job. He can do that with Sol-Ark because they will take care of customer support on the Inverter for him without any kind of back and forth hastling.

Secondly why would EG4 be so upset about Sol-Ark not wanting to support EG4 batteries if Sol-Ark was not selling a whole lot of Inverters?

Why would James keep going out of his way to bad mouth Sol-Ark every month if they were not hurting his Sales?
The company that is not whinning is typically the one that is making the money!
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Welp I hope EG4 can make it better for installers and I hope all the complaints about sol ark disappear. Plenty of room for everyone in this market.

Where did you get that 2% figure for diy solar? Is that installation count or Watt output capacity?
 
Deye doing this is unsurprising Chinese business behavior, but it also reminds me of Telsa remotely disabling people's cars:
www.newsweek.com

Man Says Tesla 'Locked Him Out' of Car Until He Pays for $26K Battery

"Now Tesla is trying desperately to hide the fact that they have these issues with the batteries that need to be recalled," Mario Zelaya said.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com

Or remotely reducing a car's range and engaging in extortion to "fix" the problem:
www.carscoops.com

Tesla Remotely Disabled 80 Miles Of Range From Customer's Car Demanding $4,500, Backtracks When The Web Finds Out | Carscoops

Over-the-air updates give automakers power that you may not want
www.carscoops.com www.carscoops.com

Ultimately consumers have to start voting with their wallets before this kind of behavior will stop.
 
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Will Prowse said:
Welp I hope EG4 can make it better for installers and I hope all the complaints about sol ark disappear. Plenty of room for everyone in this market.
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What complaints are you hearing?
I have only heard a couple and those typically involved people trying to do Gen shaving or something else that Sol-Ark told them it does not support.
All companies have unsatisfied customers, but let’s talk ratios on the forum since you mentioned it.
For every single Sol- Ark complaint how many signature solar complaints have there been?
Will Prowse said:
Where did you get that 2% figure for diy solar? Is that installation count or Watt output capacity?
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The 2% figure was something I heard about when Sol-Ark compiled their sales to installers vs people who had bought systems for DIY use. And this was at a time when Sol-Ark was really marketing hard for DIY sales. It did not take them long to realize that DIY sales was not going to ever bring in significant money,

Tom is not an easy guy to get along with but at least he takes pride in perfecting his products and providing the best customer support.
 
kolek said:
Amazing there are people in this thread gloating about and/or defending Deye's actions.
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Commenting they have a legitimate contractual issue is not an endorsement of DEYES actions.

Not the way I would have done it but people have know for many years not to buy grey market DEYES and importers have refused to sale them.

It’s not about feelings.
 
Offgrid Jungle said:
Is the reverse true? Will Sol ark shut down Sol ark inverters running outside the US? I mean, if they cry for exclusive US rights then they should also prevent their inverters infringing on Deye in other countries, right?

Let me guess, they have no problem infringing on Deye.
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It seems unlikely someone outside North America would pay three times what they need to versus buying a local Deye
 
Can anyone think of an analogous enforcement action that would justify this?

Say you bought a grey market bicycle on aliexpress. Brand name, but not supposed to be for sale in your market. Would any party involved ever have the right to deprive you of your bicycle over their disputes with each other? I don't think so.

I intentionally buy products not for sale in my market and don't expect to be deprived of them over any kind of sales dispute after I have them in my hands. Try to stop an Italian vendor from shipping an italian market espresso machine to me, that's fair. But come and take my italian market machine after I have it, no way.

But I should not get too involved. Like @Daddy Tanuki says I already chose manufacturers that I know don't mess around.
 
So 14 pages in less than 24h based on a single report, which could be fake Deye made products specially designed for the US market SUN-(5-12)K-SG02LP2-US-AM3. My 2 units are up and running. This is a hoax. Somone from EG4 replaced the dongle from a DEYE with a SOL-ARK one and got this message
 
Nobodybusiness said:
Didn’t Dave from TX have 3 Deye Split phase inverters?
The guy who had a blowout with Sunfunkits..

What was his username?

Someone should hit him up.
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That would be Ray from Texas. And yes, he has 3 installed at his house.
Purchased before the agreement of exclusivity with Sol-Ark.

And I wouldn't call stalking him and threatening his family , after an honest review of an under performing product, a blowout.

I still follow his youtube channel. I'm sure that he'll post something about this, if it turns out to be real.
 
EG4 Electronics James said:
the fact that people have Deye units is nobody's fault but Deye's
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No, that’s not what you said when you started this thread attacking SolArk, and specifically addressing it to SA. Your very first sentence was a sarcastic “Thanks Solark” for revealing how its product is under the control of “Chinese overlords” (as if your own product has no connection with China). Then you impugned SA’s ethics and its “twisted business strategy,” and directly accused it of “literally shutting down equipment homeowners paid for.”

I see you’ve gone back and edited out the first part of your original post, where you directly addressed the post to SolArk. Perhaps because your attorneys told you that a retraction might help mitigate damages if you find yourself defending a suit for libel and business disparagement. (Pro tip: don’t make accusations of nefarious conduct against a competitor if you can’t support them with actual evidence, of which we’ve seen none so far).

Tbh, I find the spat between SA and EG4 unbecoming for both companies. I didn’t like SA’s whiny attitude when the 18Kpv was introduced to directly compete with its 15K, and I don’t like EG4’s attitude now.

Your advice to SA was to “BE BETTER.” You might want to think about that sometime.
 
robby said:
DIY is only 2% of the whole Solar market, it does not mean all that much to Sol-Arks annual Sales figures.
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I believe that Deye holds a lot more than 2% of the whole solar market.
Otherwise they wouldn't be so well known.
Between Sol-Ark, in the states, and Sunsynk, in several other countries, plus all of the non rebranded sales, there's quite a huge number of units in service around the world.
 
GABRIEL82S said:
based on a single report,
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so far, it seems we have one fb post from a user in PR,
and one actual DIY-Solar member who confirmed his unit shut down.
webbbn said:
I have a Deye inverter and can confirm that it was "bricked" last night.
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the rest of the 14 pages appears to be talk and speculation.
 
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