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CHINA kills all non Sol-Ark branded DEYE unit in the USA this morning.

We can do it in the US as long as it's not a monopoly. The US only gets involved if there is collusion. This isn't the case here. A US company made a deal with a Chinese company for exclusive rights to a product. Nothing about this deal prevents all other brands from competing. In fact, this deal is very generous, in that many companies contract with China and have exclusive rights to the product. Sol-Ark is allowing Deye to sell the product elsewhere.

Do you have proof that Sol-Ark played a significant role in the design of the inverter before this exclusive rights agreement took place? I think it far more likely they just negotiated distribution rights to an existing Chinese inverter design. Nothing about Sol-Arks early beginnings make it look like they had the ability to design anything. Their company image looked like a bunch of "as seen on tv" crooks until not too long ago.

Even if that were the case, and Sol-Ark designed the inverter, Deye and the rest of them have absolutley no moral right to brick an inverter remotely that a customer paid for without notice and refund of purchase price. Just because something can happen legally, doesn't mean it is right. We should strive to make our laws moral, not adjust our morals to our laws, which are often written by bribed sociopaths.
 
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A "plaintiff's interest" does not include interest that is not granted to the plaintiff pursuant to the ELUA or TOU. So, if the ELUA or TOU says the Deye inverter cannot be used in Pakistan, UK, or USA, then there is no "interest" of the plaintiff that is being infringed upon.
Good point. That's the problem I find with the ubiquitousness of these ELUA's and TOU's. Who really reads them? One usually just clicks "Accept" not realizing what they've signed away. Corporations count on this.
 
It probably says in the EULA that no one reads, that the Deye unit can't be used in the USA.
EULA here can never trump basic customer protection .
Unless...

Grey import

Really a catch 22..
In reality we can stomp on deye and sol-ark for that matter, but if we take a step back, this is Alibaba grey market sellers and buyers that are willing to take a risk that just got a foot up to where the sun don't shine..

Buyers should now complain to their grey market sellers
 
It probably says in the EULA that no one reads, that the Deye unit can't be used in the USA.
Personally, I feel EULA are bullcrap and should be eliminated. I'm curious as to your thoughts on them? Only signed agreements before a product is purchased should be valid.. nothing after the sale.
 
That would be Ray from Texas. And yes, he has 3 installed at his house.
Purchased before the agreement of exclusivity with Sol-Ark.

And I wouldn't call stalking him and threatening his family , after an honest review of an under performing product, a blowout.

I still follow his youtube channel. I'm sure that he'll post something about this, if it turns out to be real.
I just remember members losing their damn minds calling him a Docan apologist and what not after the review.

What you call that I don’t know.

I just wonder if he had any issues or not.
 
I believe that Deye holds a lot more than 2% of the whole solar market.
Otherwise they wouldn't be so well known.
Between Sol-Ark, in the states, and Sunsynk, in several other countries, plus all of the non rebranded sales, there's quite a huge number of units in service around the world.
No, I said that DIY purchases account for 2% of Sol-Arks overall inverter sales.
 
Good point. That's the problem I find with the ubiquitousness of these ELUA's and TOU's. Who really reads them? One usually just clicks "Accept" not realizing what they've signed away. Corporations count on this.
If you buy a deye knowing that SA has the rights for distribution in the USA, ... willful ignorance is not a justification.
 
Did you read the manual ?
Reading is not equaling to saying I agree and accept the terms.

And there is no such thing as a grey import. I bought Deye brand not Sol-Ark brand.
And I didn't buy from a US seller. Sol-Ark can go after a US seller who sell a counterfeit product that branded as Sol-Ark for a copy right violation.
 
Reading is not equaling to saying I agree and accept the terms.

And there is no such thing as a grey import. I bought Deye brand not Sol-Ark brand.
And I didn't buy from a US seller. Sol-Ark can go after a US seller who sell a counterfeit product that branded as Sol-Ark for a copy right violation.
It's no different than if you buy stolen goods. You are still in the wrong. And you will lose the goods.
 
My first and probably only post on this thread…

I have NO dog in this fight but am following with interest…

After 24 hours of reading mostly speculation and scattered facts , I say they is some hanky-panky goin on by someone…somewhere..

Who stands to profit the most from this….?

Follow the money trail and usually the truth will close at hand.

Back to following..
J.
 
If you buy a deye knowing that SA has the rights for distribution in the USA, ... willful ignorance is not a justification.
Agreements between Deye and SA are between themselves.


The kings interrogator, not Mel Gibson.
 
Personally, I feel EULA are bullcrap and should be eliminated. I'm curious as to your thoughts on them? Only signed agreements before a product is purchased should be valid.. nothing after the sale.
I have decided to not use a couple fo products based on the EULA. Requested a full refund. Done.
 
If you buy a deye knowing that SA has the rights for distribution in the USA, ... willful ignorance is not a justification.
It's my choice not willful ignorance,
It would be willful ignorance if I expected Sol-Ark to warranty or provide support.
Yes SA an exclusive rights in USA, doesn't it mean that they have the rights to confiscate my property or force me to buy only from them. Bull.
 
It's no different than if you buy stolen goods. You are still in the wrong. And you will lose the goods.
Except they aren't stolen goods. They are imported goods from another market. If various countries don't want thier citizens importing things from other countries, it seems it would be easy enough to prevent. They could have a customs department monitor incoming goods and block ones they don't want entering.
 
If Deye contracted with Sol-Ark to not sell Deye in the US, Deye has a right to not let Deye inverters be used in the US.
They do not have that morale right. They have the right to go after the company that sold it, not the customer that bought it. If Deye wants the inverter back, they can buy it back or simply fine THEIR distributor that sold it.
 
It probably says in the EULA that no one reads, that the Deye unit can't be used in the USA.
Wouldn’t that have to be disclosed at the time of purchased? At the very least in the literature that accompanies the inverter?
 
They do not have that morale right. They have the right to go after the company that sold it, not the customer that bought it. If Deye wants the inverter back, they can buy it back or simply fine THEIR distributor that sold it.
Deye is not taking the inverter from you. You can keep it. They are merely making it function pursuant to the ELUA TOU.
 

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