SunDave
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Hi TM48: No gripe against you, since it's good to question everything, but I don't make assertions without receipts. The timeline clearly referred to another later post.
CHINA kills all non Sol-Ark branded DEYE unit in the USA this morning.
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Hi TM48: No gripe against you, since it's good to question everything, but I don't make assertions without receipts. The timeline clearly referred to another later post.
I thought that we established about 65 pages ago that the IP address is not needed to determine where a solar installation is. Give me about two weeks of solar charge information (with time stamps) and I'll tell you where the installation is. Give me a year of the data and I'll get the position down to about a few hundred yards, even without time stamps.
TM48
Solar Wizard
That appears to be the fake one but that's not the photo displayed on page 1. This photo was posted by someone else.Hi TM48: No gripe against you, since it's good to question everything, but I don't make assertions without receipts. The timeline clearly referred to another later post.
HighDesertDrifter
Teaching is a rare skill, Thanks to those who do!
Has the conversation been about quality of product, or the lack of ethical behavior by mfgs / distributors of "Smart" devices? i.e. DEYE AIOs in this particular occurrence.
I haven't seen any complaints about the overall quality of the products? Or perhaps I missed something along the way?
This thread would not exist without the ability of others than yourself the "owner" being able to remotely disable "your" property / device for whatever reason they may choose. As well as how those who represent them as distributors of their product, be it John Deere Tractors or DEYE products; that they are more than willing to put a tornadic spin on whatever is at hand to further enrich themselves! That's supposed to be OK and YOU are supposed to like it?
I'm concerned that most can not see the forest for the trees. Or are we that easily sold out to convenience and abundance of resources? The whole system of things is designed to control, and yet few seem to give it a second thought as though that's just how it is, we got to live with it and LIKE it.
Bahhh! The whole world will worship this beast.
That's why, I am moving more and more towards a simple life. Those Amish folks have a few things right! There is Beauty in Simplicity...
Others though are more than welcome to keep running down the path you are on. imho
The picture on page 1 is not being disputed. That's a picture of a Deye inverter screen. Somewhere in the 70 pages someone posted what appeared to be a Sol-Ark screen with the message of death. That's been proven to be fake.
cs1234
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Does this depend on a fixed optimal positioning of the array? What if they have panels facing a sub optimal position, or multiple arrays facing all kinds of different directions and of different sizes?
cs1234
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Yeah, somebody trolled the forum with that one. Most didn't take the bait though. Aside from being potentially amusing friendly fire / collateral damage, it was irrelevant to the the main problem of Deye bricking inverters they had no right to brick.
ReddyKilowatt
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My little $300 120V-only 3.2 kW guy between 6 kW panels and 8 (soon 16) kWh battery (still waiting on BMS! the inverter makes sure battery goes no lower than 26 volts, and the cells are within .01 volt of each other) isn't looking so bad today. It has no network connection and I monitor it with a Blink camera. If I need to change a setting I go down to the basement and change it.
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SunDave
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Right,
Also, an account was created here at the same time, and with a similar name as the facebook post. With the same story, and doctored picture. Someone was hard at work spinning a narrative.
JBoffgrid2022
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Too many cooks in the kitchen....I'll catch you guys on the next one. My head hurts....
TM48
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Yes I agree. What I was commenting on was the assertion that EG4 was associated with the fake.
ReddyKilowatt
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ESP32 kicks a$$
wpns
Solar Joules are catch and release
Hedges
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What if they ran a mathematical correlation of your graph against graphs from other systems.
Wouldn't that show who was living under the same sun & clouds?
wpns
Solar Joules are catch and release
The clouds are so variable here, that you could probably only get an idea that my neighbor and I were fairly close. One summer it rained every single day a half a mile away and we got no rain at all.
Ignored? Every company is allowed to post here on the forum, and they are not allowed to promote products, mention pricing, deals or anything else. It has to be purely informational, and if it is not, please report it.
The same could be said about sol arks response. I think we can all read between the lines and all companies are allowed to post here. I think it helps everyone to have an open platform to say whatever you wish (beside product promotion, obviously).
Imagine if you had a "solark facebook group" and james posted this there. It would be instantly deleted. What are we doing wrong with allowing everyone to post their evidence? If someone screws up and backs up to find more evidence, that can be even more telling. What is bad about that? What product is being promoted?
Other brands posted in response. There are multiple profiles here for sol ark. What is the issue here?
Well, let's see some more people post evidence. It is an open forum.
Bashing fellow forum members? Who did that? I did not see that in my reports
cs1234
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Seems fair, as far as I can tell everybody is allowed to come on here like EG4/SS does and post. You would think other companies would come here and do what EG4/SS does.. kind of a bummer that they don't, I would like to give other companies the same treatment I give EG4/SS.
Yeah, that response from Simon from Sol-Ark wasn't exactly endearing. It was nice that he dropped in briefly.. too bad he dropped out so fast.
Exactly, this site is pretty open. Everybody seems to have a chance to say something.
There were some "conflicts" between the seemingly pro Sol-Ark people and the seemingly anti Deye/Sol-Ark people. For the most part it was civil enough, but maybe I have relatively thick skin.
I think the mods here do a pretty good job. Some of the posters here are kind of hot headed and opinionated, so keeping things relatively calm is quite challenging, I'm sure.
Last night we found out that the Puerto Rican profile was fake, and was a long time member here. Instead of posting actual evidence, he photoshopped the bricked screen notification onto an old photo posted elsewhere. Now he is accusing me of working for sol ark or deye or something. Why would he post fake evidence? I issued a ban for both of his profiles. Here is the proof of the evidence that was faked:
SunDave
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Hi Will,
I respect the way you run the forum and push for fairness. And indeed there is a fine line between posting information about a promotion and advertisement. So fine its almost invisible at times.
I don't have a problem with anyone, or any company having an account. Did not claim anyone was bashing fellow forum members either(Edit: I do see now where I clearly said bashing fellow members, I guess that's just the way I read the hostility of the whole back and forth, people attacking, and defending the brands, not necessarily each other personally, sorry about that.). Just stated that the original post started tens of pages of just brand bashing, based on dubious claims, as clearly stated by the bullet points.
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TM48
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Actually this thread has hands down been the most entertaining thread I've read in a long time.
Yes agreed, I always encourage other companies to post here. Even told sol ark to do so.
If you want a company to post here, I think we should all encourage them together. I do it every single time I can. But it would really help if the customers all encourage them as much as I do.
Yeah I haven't seen any fighting going on. It's fine to question someone. I think it's necessary to have a good discussion. If it goes too far though just report it. Myself or another mod will check it out
What here was posted as an advertisement? Can you please tag me in it or report it?
HighDesertDrifter
Teaching is a rare skill, Thanks to those who do!
Just a shout out and Kudos to @Will Prowse , This is hands down the absolute best designed, run and moderated forum I have ever seen!
Well done sir!
Well done sir!
jlramirezrodriguez
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I can tell you that the silence from Sol-Ark is deafening. If they had nothing to do with this matter, they'd be jumping up and down out there trying to convince everyone they were not responsible for Deye actions. I'm yet to see a statement from Sol-Ark that convince me otherwise. All of this taken into context reaffirmed my assertion that, at a minimum, Sol-Ark is guilty by association for being an overpriced white label reseller for a greedy and corrupt overseas manufacturer. No way I would consider purchasing a Deye manufactured inverter, regardless the brand they may bear. That puts Sol-Ark out of consideration. As a disabled veteran, I can tell you that for being a veteran owned business, Sol-Ark lost its north.What corporate greed? They paid (damn good money I would imagine) for the rights/privilege to have EXCLUSIVE rights to a given territory for a product. The manufacturer should of had the product UN-commisionable without proving location if they are going to enforce this after entering into a contract with a company for exclusive rights. Its either ignore the problem or do something about it which they chose to do.
Sol-ark did nothing wrong in this by wanting/demanded/suing (if needed) to protect that agreement. The OEM caused this no matter how its twisted.
If anything Deye in my opinion owes a full refund to the people effected since they decided to turn off those people's product.
Sol-ark doesn't owe squat.
Trust me if Sig solars inverter started showing up in the market for 1/3 the price of what they charge they would be singing a very different toon right now.
Sol-ark's entire biz model is based around that product they have a contract for. I think its TOTALLY overpriced but that's my opinion which keeps me from wanting to buy one since there is no way I would pay that much for that many watts. But that's what is cool about a free market.
You as a consumer has the right and privilege to not buy their product for any reason at all. Cool isn't it
But nowhere do they have any obligations to something about something they didn't sell.
Want Sol-ark to care, be responsible and or help? Buy a Sol-ark inverter.
