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CHINA kills all non Sol-Ark branded DEYE unit in the USA this morning.

Will Prowse said:
Last night we found out that the Puerto Rican profile was fake, and was a long time member here. Instead of posting actual evidence, he photoshopped the bricked screen notification onto an old photo posted elsewhere. Now he is accusing me of working for sol ark or deye or something. Why would he post fake evidence? I issued a ban for both of his profiles. Here is the proof of the evidence that was faked:

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Please explain to everyone how you think it's ok to create false evidence @van-traveler86
 
JuergenA said:
Well with access to the firmware the current inverters could simply be unlocked and then this whole thing would be over. No need for a costly replacement. So far I haven't found any firmware which contains this though, so if someone affected could check over the cloud which firmware version is now installed on their inverter, that would be quite a step forward.
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And where I can download the firmware? I know how to install it, but where is it? Will be really happy if someone can give it to me, will not connect the Inverter with internet anymore.
 
MarVerde said:
And where I can download the firmware? I know how to install it, but where is it? Will be really happy if someone can give it to me, will not connect the Inverter with internet anymore.
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Which inverter do you have, which firmware is on it now and which firmware do you need?

What I was talking about getting access to the currently installed firmware, meaning checking which version there is on the inverter now, so it's clear what firmware contains this lockout and then grabbing a copy of it.
 
Zwy said:
You will find that on newer vehicles that your OBD II scanners won't work without connection to the gateway.

You pay $50 per year to register the scan tool and the scan tool has to have up to date software, so an ongoing subscription. When accessing a vehicle communication network, the scanner (which needs a internet connection) will log into the gateway, check registration and you can proceed. If it checks the gateway and no current registration was available, it locks you out.

The reason given for this was vehicle theft using the CAN bus. Someone decided with high discharge lights to use a CAN bus to the headlights and thieves figured out to simply pull the corner of the bumper cover, clip on the CAN wires, unlock the car and start it. All done in less than 60 seconds. We are heading backwards and not forwards when it comes to security. Of course the government and scan tool manufacturers pushed for this system. I have an idea, don't put the CAN bus where it can be accessed easily or don't use a CAN bus to parts to the vehicle.

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Probably why Tesla is going to etherloop, plus has the four digit drive code ability if in a high car theft area.
 
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i told you already and you can see my response on the email they brick inverter from end customer and then say they have nothing to do with it when everyone knows the only reason deye will do that is because they told them, they hurt small businesses and END USERS/CUSTOMERS by shutting their homes down to then send a message saying they will sell those customers a solark this looks like a fucked up marketing strategy in this case i used my own fucked up strategy too, was i right? i dont think so but at least is sending people a message that their inverters can be shutdown for whatever reason and make them think about it.
 
Will Prowse said:
Something I don't understand is how everyone is obsessed with James posting this evidence. I don't care if it's a new forum member, senior member, a CEO, marketing director, me or whoever. If we find out that the person is lying, their reputation will be affected. If someone here says something slanderous, they will be dealing with possible lawsuit. The forum is not liable for what is posted here as long as it is not illegal content. Such as age restricted, porn, guns for sale etc.

I dont know how many times I have to repeat myself on this. It's the same liability as any other social media platform.

Now false evidence and no corporate promotion is our rules. If you find either, please report it.

There are zero contracts or terms or conditions for this forum to follow any corporate entity. No one running the forum is siding with any company or allowing them to post more or less than anyone else.

But all companies are allowed to post. I don't care who you are, you're allowed to post your evidence.
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You should be careful because as far as I know if a company or person is slandering another company by stating that they are involved in an illegal or unethical activity and you as the site owner are warned that this is incorrect by the Victim or other forum members, you are obligated to take action.
If you do nothing to investigate and remove the liable information you can also be dragged into the lawsuit for aiding them. Even worst if they find out that the person hosting the misinformation has any form of monetary connection to the hosting company or individual it's gonna be worst.

One thing I can tell you from personal experience is that companies are often slow to sue.
They may wait years until there is enough reoccurring evidence to prove a pattern or they may wait until the Defendant is wealthy enough that they can extract huge sums from them.

I know a guy who fell into the latter case. He used another small USA companies name to start his own business in the Caribbean. The real company, (he found our later had know about it very early on).
Instead of acting on it they decided to sit back for almost 8 years until he was wealthy and had two other local locations.
Guess who owns all three branches now, along with all of his money ;)
 
rogerheflin said:
I doubt Deye went to that much work. All of this seems like a simple stupid query probably with Geoip and shutting them down.
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this is what i suspect too
rogerheflin said:
I kind of wondering if the 5 digit code was delivered originally from the factory installed/programmed on each inverter and the brick method is simply having the web site delete the 5 digit key from the inverter. No firmware update needed if that feature was there from the start. No way to work around it without having the 5-digit key.
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this is indeed how it works, there has been a case in south african where 2 containers of sunsynk were stolen when they were unloaded in the port.
These were all locked and the status message read something like :
"this inverter was stolen, please contact sunsynk support for the unlock key, and have your bill of sale ready"
rogerheflin said:
Has anyone looked at a modbus dump on a Deye/SolArk inverter to see if the 5 digit code was exposed in the modbus data? On my inverter(not Deye/SolArk) I see all sorts of weird reserved internal parameters being exposed in the modbus dump.
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it is not ( after the south africa incident i took a peek), so i suppose it is baked into the firmware, and i assume uses some form of TPM
 
van-traveler86 said:
i told you already and you can see my response on the email they brick inverter from end customer and then say they have nothing to do with it when everyone knows the only reason deye will do that is because they told them, they hurt small businesses and END USERS/CUSTOMERS by shutting their homes down to then send a message saying they will sell those customers a solark this looks like a fucked up marketing strategy in this case i used my own fucked up strategy too, was i right? i dont think so but at least is sending people a message that their inverters can be shutdown for whatever reason and make them think about it.
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You posted pictures that were fake. I showed you both and you said you were aware that the pictures were edited. You can't do that.

Can you post pictures of actual bricked inverters. Myself and everyone else here agrees with you. What we don't agree with is making a fake profile and posting fake evidence. Take a picture of the bricked inverters yourself. And post them here
 
JuergenA said:
To those affected: Can you still check the inverter through the cloud? Which firmware version is installed now? What happens when you try to select "Proceed" on the locked inverter?

I had a look at the most recent firmware I have available and it does not contain anything that is related to locking the inverter at Startup as seen on the pictures. So I am pretty sure there must be a newer firmware which is not publicly available at this point, and might even be a special firmware that locks the inverter, no matter where it's installed (so not a special kill-command being sent to specific inverters but a special firmware being installed on specific inverters).
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it has nothing to do with the firmware, this is a "feature" that has been there for at least 4 years.
The message can be changed, but the dongle is needed for anyone to do that
 
van-traveler86 said:
i told you already and you can see my response on the email they brick inverter from end customer and then say they have nothing to do with it when everyone knows the only reason deye will do that is because they told them, they hurt small businesses and END USERS/CUSTOMERS by shutting their homes down to then send a message saying they will sell those customers a solark this looks like a fucked up marketing strategy in this case i used my own fucked up strategy too, was i right? i dont think so but at least is sending people a message that their inverters can be shutdown for whatever reason and make them think about it.
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Oh the old guilty by association crap, so you made up evidence to help prove the point.
What you did is illegal.
 
houseofancients said:
The message can be changed, but the dongle is needed for anyone to do that
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So the "cloud operator" (whichever company that might be) can send a "kill command" with a kill text to an inverter and in that case it shows the message along with the "Proceed" button, which will accept that 5 digit code?
 
van-traveler86 said:
i told you already and you can see my response on the email they brick inverter from end customer and then say they have nothing to do with it when everyone knows the only reason deye will do that is because they told them, they hurt small businesses and END USERS/CUSTOMERS by shutting their homes down to then send a message saying they will sell those customers a solark this looks like a fucked up marketing strategy in this case i used my own fucked up strategy too, was i right? i dont think so but at least is sending people a message that their inverters can be shutdown for whatever reason and make them think about it.
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Why would anyone trust what you say when you have proven yourself to be under-handed and dishonest? That you did to yourself.
 
Will Prowse said:
Alright guys let's see what @van-traveler86 would like to say about posting fake evidence. He says that banning him is not fair justice. Let's see what he has to say for himself.
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Making intentionally fake posts to enflame the situation further sucks. Gullible people like me might fall for it.

I might post bullcrap sometimes, but at least I think I'm posting in good faith.
 
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Will Prowse said:
You posted pictures that were fake. I showed you both and you said you were aware that the pictures were edited. You can't do that.

Can you post pictures of actual bricked inverters. Myself and everyone else here agrees with you. What we don't agree with is making a fake profile and posting fake evidence. Take a picture of the bricked inverters yourself. And post them here
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i actually did post photos of bricked inverters you cannot do anything with them the screen is just locked there and there's no pv reading or ac output or anything.
 
We are all humans here that make mistakes, none of us are immune to it. But when one makes a big mistake, refuses to admit it, and continues to justify their actions, well that's a little different story. If your plight is to expose the crookedness and greed of big corporations, call it for what it is. Don't hide behind a fake post in an attempt to draw attention to something that is false! My dad always told me "90% of the truth is still 100% false"!!
 
van-traveler86 said:
i actually did post photos of bricked inverters you cannot do anything with them the screen is just locked there and there's no pv reading or ac output or anything.
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Do you guys see what I am dealing with here? He thinks he did nothing wrong. And posted fake photos:
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Now playing victim card. Driving me insane over here.
 
van-traveler86 said:
i actually did post photos of bricked inverters you cannot do anything with them the screen is just locked there and there's no pv reading or ac output or anything.
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Post them again with the deye logo in the photo. Your credibility is in the shitter so it doesn't really matter.
Did you lie about your moms cpap too?
 
these are the real pictures of one of the few inverters bricked, few of my customers do have health problems and will be as of this past week with no backup when the grid goes down.
 

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