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CHINA kills all non Sol-Ark branded DEYE unit in the USA this morning.

Will Prowse said:
Do you guys see what I am dealing with here? He thinks he did nothing wrong. And posted fake photos:
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Now playing victim card. Driving me insane over here.
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im not saying i didnt do anything wrong if you have to ban me from what i did to enforce your rules suit yourself... just a lot of ppl here say things that are not correct like the robby guy keep saying solark developed their inverters and deye copied them when everyone know that is not true... i just ignore the guy...
 
van-traveler86 said:
i told you already and you can see my response on the email they brick inverter from end customer and then say they have nothing to do with it when everyone knows the only reason deye will do that is because they told them, they hurt small businesses and END USERS/CUSTOMERS by shutting their homes down to then send a message saying they will sell those customers a solark this looks like a fucked up marketing strategy in this case i used my own fucked up strategy too, was i right? i dont think so but at least is sending people a message that their inverters can be shutdown for whatever reason and make them think about it.
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As the installer, where did you source these inverters from?
 
Plum Crazy Rob said:
Keep in mind that all of us who are Americans on this forum, via this DOE funding involvement, almost CERTAINLY now own bricked Deye's in PR...lovely! NOT (n)


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Edit. Just WOW. Eligibility reqmnts from DOE link. DEYE gonna be sorry with the legal fallout:
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Agree,
I have to wonder what "CISA" would say about bricking those inverters, if the internet was used to send the command from China into a US territory.

Not a huge leap it seems, to consider a privately owned inverter a 'critical infrastructure device' for an Individual in PR especially after reading

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That said, It does seem legal to protect a sales area from copies, but imo people should have a right to legal notice of impending shutdown to make other arrangements.

The owners of those inverters should have been warned in advance, in case the shut down could cause more than just a financial inconvenience.



Home Page | CISA

Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency: America's Cyber Defense Agency
www.cisa.gov www.cisa.gov

 
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van-traveler86 said:
im not saying i didnt do anything wrong if you have to ban me from what i did to enforce your rules suit yourself... just a lot of ppl here say things that are not correct like the robby guy keep saying solark developed their inverters and deye copied them when everyone know that is not true... i just ignore the guy...
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“Well, sure, I lied, but I’m just being Presidential” doesn’t cut it here. It wasn’t accidental, it was deliberate. And you have no shame, no remorse, it feels to me like you are entirely justified in your own mind, and you would do it again in a moment.

What was the upside of removing the ban again?
 
van-traveler86 said:
these are the real pictures of one of the few inverters bricked, few of my customers do have health problems and will be as of this past week with no backup when the grid goes down.
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What are you doing to help your customers?

How do you think they would react if they knew you posted fake photos?

Do you feel your efforts in photo shopping would have been better served trying to "crack the code" and help your customers?

Have you already shared your communications with deye?

grammar edit.
 
wpns said:
Good luck with that. Mine’s all over the map:
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You didn't give me much to work with, but from the length of day I estimate your latitude is between 10 and 20 degrees north of the equator. I can't estimate longitude because I don't know what time zone you are in. Assuming you are in Eastern time zone, sunrise at 5:50 AM puts you around 73 degrees west longitude. Better data gets better resolution.

I was wrong about not needing time; I would have to have it to determine longitude. A server receiving data from a location would be able to time stamp it on receipt and correlate sunrise and sunset times on any specific day to get longitude, and length of day to get latitude.
 
houseofancients said:
this is what i suspect too

this is indeed how it works, there has been a case in south african where 2 containers of sunsynk were stolen when they were unloaded in the port.
These were all locked and the status message read something like :
"this inverter was stolen, please contact sunsynk support for the unlock key, and have your bill of sale ready"

it is not ( after the south africa incident i took a peek), so i suppose it is baked into the firmware, and i assume uses some form of TPM
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Interesting. So this is a anti-theft feature used in shipping because of the amount of stuff that is stolen from the shipping/trucking chain. So all Deye(we assume) had to do was connect to the cloud connected inverter (with pretty much any firmware probably) and update the message and clear the key. No firmware update needed the anti-theft feature works perfectly for a full disable.
 
robby said:
You should be careful because as far as I know if a company or person is slandering another company by stating that they are involved in an illegal or unethical activity and you as the site owner are warned that this is incorrect by the Victim or other forum members, you are obligated to take action.
If you do nothing to investigate and remove the liable information you can also be dragged into the lawsuit for aiding them. Even worst if they find out that the person hosting the misinformation has any form of monetary connection to the hosting company or individual it's gonna be worst.
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Will, you're being warned..
 
wpns said:
“Well, sure, I lied, but I’m just being Presidential” doesn’t cut it here. It wasn’t accidental, it was deliberate. And you have no shame, no remorse, it feels to me like you are entirely justified in your own mind, and you would do it again in a moment.

What was the upside of removing the ban again?
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you are talking like i just bricked thousands of peoples inverters i just posted a fake picture on the internet my friend, chill
 
van-traveler86 said:
you are talking like i just bricked thousands of peoples inverters i just posted a fake picture on the internet my friend, chill
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But it isn't helpful. The situation from Deye is bad enough. There is no point in making a fake account faking a Sol Ark being impacted by the same thing (regardless of whether it could be, it didn't happen, so it is false).

I don't get why you think lying about it is not a big deal.
 
justgary said:
You didn't give me much to work with, but from the length of day I estimate your latitude is between 10 and 20 degrees north of the equator. I can't estimate longitude because I don't know what time zone you are in. Assuming you are in Eastern time zone, sunrise at 5:50 AM puts you around 73 degrees west longitude. Better data gets better resolution.

I was wrong about not needing time; I would have to have it to determine longitude. A server receiving data from a location would be able to time stamp it on receipt and correlate sunrise and sunset times on any specific day to get longitude, and length of day to get latitude.
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Well, I’m not far from 22N 72W, but my profile could have told you that. 😁
 
van-traveler86 said:
you are talking like i just bricked thousands of peoples inverters i just posted a fake picture on the internet my friend, chill
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Pretty casual about lying. Self reflection would not hurt in this case. If you set up your customers to fail, get out there and fix it.

Unless you are completely clear of conscious by using those inverters with your customers in the first place too...
 
455dan said:
That said It does seem legal to protect a sales area from copies,
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They aren't copies. They are practically the same inverter, made by the same company. The only issue is that Deye promised Sol-Ark that Deye's other distributors wouldn't sell them in the Americas, that only Sol-Ark would get to sell that model Deye inverter, and with Sol-Ark badging on it. You protect your sales area from violations of a distribution agreement by going after the people that distributed it, not against the customers that purchased a product they were legally entitled to purchase.
 
wpns said:
Well, I’m not far from 22N 72W, but my profile could have told you that. 😁
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I estimated that from one day (19 November) of your data, not your profile. Time of sunrise and length of day are really all you need. More days of data (and better resolution) make the estimate more accurate.

The point is that I only needed your solar data, and not your IP or howling dogs or any of the other methods proposed on about 30 pages of this thread.
 
van-traveler86 said:
you are talking like i just bricked thousands of peoples inverters i just posted a fake picture on the internet my friend, chill
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Lying, making sock puppet accounts, and making things up is not the way to get at the truth. Duh. All you managed to do is muddy the waters even more, and give some of the actual perpetrators something to point at and, with the same sort of behavior you are exhibiting here, say "See, they're making shit up!"

I'm having trouble keeping up with all the shit flying every which way, but it seems you did the fake photo to make it look like some "legitimate" Solark inverters were bricked along with the grey market ones. Was that the purpose of this charade? That's evil all by itself.
 
cs1234 said:
They aren't copies. They are practically the same inverter, made by the same company. The only issue is that Deye promised Sol-Ark that Deye's other distributors wouldn't sell them in the Americas, that only Sol-Ark would get to sell that model Deye inverter, and with Sol-Ark badging on it. You protect your sales area from violations of a distribution agreement by going after the people that distributed it, not against the customers that purchased a product they were legally entitled to purchase.
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OK Not copies, I don't disagree, my point was as an Absolute Minimum Deye owners should have been notified. Heck, I would be on a quest right now too, if I had bought a legal DEYE and had it bricked, would make it a major Priority (maybe even my life's mission for a while) to get to the bottom of what seems to be a twisted web of....

People spent hard earned cash on those DEYE inverters, at present not more useful than a door stop, they deserve better.
 
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houseofancients said:
this is indeed how it works, there has been a case in south african where 2 containers of sunsynk were stolen when they were unloaded in the port.
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Are you 100% certain that the unlock code is specific to the inverter? I found a bunch of generic codes which should be accepted and do something, but no device specific code yet.

If anyone is brave and willing to try some of the codes, feel free to drop me a message.
 
justgary said:
I estimated that from one day (19 November) of your data, not your profile. Time of sunrise and length of day are really all you need. More days of data (and better resolution) make the estimate more accurate.

The point is that I only needed your solar data, and not your IP or howling dogs or any of the other methods proposed on about 30 pages of this thread.
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Point taken, I’m actually impressed!
 
justgary said:
I estimated that from one day (19 November) of your data, not your profile. Time of sunrise and length of day are really all you need. More days of data (and better resolution) make the estimate more accurate.

The point is that I only needed your solar data, and not your IP or howling dogs or any of the other methods proposed on about 30 pages of this thread.
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That's really clever.

How close do you think that method could get, if you had a 1 minute resolution in the data? Within a couple of miles?
 
cs1234 said:
They aren't copies. They are practically the same inverter, made by the same company. The only issue is that Deye promised Sol-Ark that Deye's other distributors wouldn't sell them in the Americas, that only Sol-Ark would get to sell that model Deye inverter, and with Sol-Ark badging on it. You protect your sales area from violations of a distribution agreement by going after the people that distributed it, not against the customers that purchased a product they were legally entitled to purchase.
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What's worse is the guy who bought a 3 phase inverter system in Sol-Ark's "territory" before Sol-Ark even had 3 phase units available there, and he got bricked. And their 3 phase offering isn't even correct anyway. That's totally messed up.
 
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