CHINA kills all non Sol-Ark branded DEYE unit in the USA this morning.
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DPC
Canada, Great already
I had to look that word up because I was not sure what it meant.
Or was it a spelling issue?
So here is a Gynoid...
I really wonder how far off that is ?
Within the decade I read it might.
DPC
Canada, Great already
I don't think I would be comfortable with that thing in my house
I had to google gynoids...
You are lucky to have one!
They’re pretty high maintenance.
timselectric
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They are designed to be just like the real thing.
Hedges
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If legitimate this is not a bad offer, but not in keeping with the spirit of the forum.
Who really is JuergenA?
First question should be, does that account work from an ip address in Germany, or one originating at the desk of an enterprising Deye employee? Or from Nigeria?
@Will Prowse , can you enlighten us about this new member, savior to customers Deye apparently screwed over?
Has @webbbn vouched for this? I don't see a jubilant post from him.
DPC
Canada, Great already
Your were probably confused like me and thought he had two and was talking about something completely different....
If you look at the license cost of IDA pro (around 7000 USD per year) plus the time involved to understand the firmware and how certain things work, I hope you do understand that something like this can not be done for free, especially if it's just for others and not for an own bricked inverter.
Yes, I can tell you that (and an admin can probably confirm it). If you look up the email domain of the contact email address that I posted, you will probably also find some work on Hoymiles microinverters which are artificially limited by software to provide only the power the manufacturer wants them to provide (Deye is probably doing the same thing judging by the datasheet: All models of a certain series have the same dimensions and weights). Entirely unrelated to this but it might underline the capabilities involved in the process of getting something like this done.
Not related to Deye at all.
I am sure he will confirm it once he is back online
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Hedges
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Good, and fair enough as I said.
In life and on this forum, we've learned to trust no one. There have been some bad apples.
If this works on the other serial number units you will be a hero to many (several) as well as earning the respect of all of us (save a few who think it was the consumer's fault for buying an "illegal" grey-market unit.)
Potentially your skills could be used to add features that manufacturers conveniently left out.
For instance, some of us have inverters such as my Sunny Island that don't implement peak shaving. They allow GT PV to export to grid when there is surplus above battery charge rate, and import from grid to charge battery. Given their RS-485 port and a WattNode, should be possible to give them time of use peak shaving and forced export from battery. This would mean customized firmware.
Another would be adding 120/240 high-leg delta (presently supports 120/240 split-phase and 120/208Y.)
Other brands have other desired features not provided by manufacturer.
But realistically, there won't be enough market for those extra features, unlike the market for recovering from a hack or bricking like you just did. Only if you brought out a product/system, so you capture the entire increased value, not just selling firmware upgrade.
In life and on this forum, we've learned to trust no one. There have been some bad apples.
If this works on the other serial number units you will be a hero to many (several) as well as earning the respect of all of us (save a few who think it was the consumer's fault for buying an "illegal" grey-market unit.)
Potentially your skills could be used to add features that manufacturers conveniently left out.
For instance, some of us have inverters such as my Sunny Island that don't implement peak shaving. They allow GT PV to export to grid when there is surplus above battery charge rate, and import from grid to charge battery. Given their RS-485 port and a WattNode, should be possible to give them time of use peak shaving and forced export from battery. This would mean customized firmware.
Another would be adding 120/240 high-leg delta (presently supports 120/240 split-phase and 120/208Y.)
Other brands have other desired features not provided by manufacturer.
But realistically, there won't be enough market for those extra features, unlike the market for recovering from a hack or bricking like you just did. Only if you brought out a product/system, so you capture the entire increased value, not just selling firmware upgrade.
It has been tested on 3 inverters from 3 different countries (USA, Puerto Rico, Costa Rica) so I am quite confident it does work for all units affected.
Modifications to firmwares are nice and interesting, but you have to keep one thing in mind: While there is no copyright on 5-digit-numbers, there is a copyright on firmwares. So modifiying them without the copyright holders approval, and then even selling that, will get you into trouble for sure. Also the risk of permanently damaging a unit is just too high when doing "serious" modifications that the manufacturer did not intend. The modifications might work aparrently fine, but what if one day the grid frequency rises and the inverters with the modifications all go up in flames? Certainly not something that anyone would like to be responsible for.
Modifications to firmwares are nice and interesting, but you have to keep one thing in mind: While there is no copyright on 5-digit-numbers, there is a copyright on firmwares. So modifiying them without the copyright holders approval, and then even selling that, will get you into trouble for sure. Also the risk of permanently damaging a unit is just too high when doing "serious" modifications that the manufacturer did not intend. The modifications might work aparrently fine, but what if one day the grid frequency rises and the inverters with the modifications all go up in flames? Certainly not something that anyone would like to be responsible for.
Solar Guppy
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Likely the one that got it fixed for $175
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Resellers lives matter, too. lol
Guess what, the admin of one of those Facebook groups blocked me from the group and wants to do it exclusively. We did one test/proof, and he received the code within minutes. I assume that is the group you are talking about?
500-600$ is insane and certainly NOT a fair price. PLEASE BE GOOD OUT THERE!
500-600$ is insane and certainly NOT a fair price. PLEASE BE GOOD OUT THERE!
us3r1d
Well, hurry on sundown, see what tomorrow brings.
I am ambivalent about the ethics of selling codes like this; obviously it takes time, effort and resources to reverse engineer a code generator and it's not fair to say that can't be compensated. But it just seems kinda predatory, taking advantage of people who've already been mistreated by Deye.
I'm not sure there's a correct position on this?
I don't have a Deye, but I'd put in $25 to a gofundme or similar to compensate you for putting it out as an open source app?
marionw
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Still no absolute proof. Pictures of a bricked inverter with clearly distinguishable marks before and after the fix.
Numerous longtime forum members have helped others out here with their expertise. They patiently gave many hours of their time through the months and years. They have asked for nothing in return. I salute them.
Basically the whole business of reverse engineering is built on this, look at printers from a certain company that do not work with ink from 3rd party manufacturers (who then paid to get those ink chips reverse engineered, so in that case the 3rd party ink manufacturers got screwed by the printer manufacturers and they paid well over 100k to get that secret revealed. unfortunately not to me
). Similarly there are people who had bad luck by software developers going bankrupt and then they would have to pay to get bugs fixed in the software, while potentially also losing money to the bankrupt company. I also remember some farming equipment manufacturer doing also some sketchy things so people would buy new stuff from them.Probably not, but once a path has been chosen it should be continued IMO. It would be pretty unfair to those who paid some money to now release an app for free. Plus I am sure the resellers would not stop, they would just be happy about 175$ additional profit. It is very difficult to reach those people affected, at least for me. I keep hearing there are many people, but I only saw posts by like 5-10 who are affected.
Looking back at the guy who photoshopped pictures of a bricked solark inverter that would not be a clear proof either IMO. It was only noticed because the original picture was found.
Hedges
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Does that mean a single code unbricked them all?
Not that you had a secret equation to create unbricking code based on serial number?
So, it's a singular code to restore any Deye bricked inverter? Not based on a serial number.Likely the one that got it fixed for $175
Solar Guppy
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Why am I not surprised that we go from feeling bad for those that intentionally bought off Alibaba grey market units that get bricked to now that someone took the time and effort so these same people for $175 to get their units up and running and instead of coming here to say this is legit, they start reselling for 4X the price to rip-off the same people they resold units to .
Solar Guppy
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No one has reported that, and JuergenA indicated serial number was required which would mean that is would be a hash to generate the code