Crazy low prices on Aliexpress LifePO4 320A, with buyer protection?

Scph9002

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Haha, this scam from AliExpress has word wide effect against 17track.net that is used by scammer and who does noting to resolve the problem with the shipping comany being used by hackers .
I've now seen 1 star average reviews given to 17track here : https://www.facebook.com/17track/reviews (320 x 1 star review on facebook with 1 star average ... ) and here https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.17track.net (890 x 1 star review on trustpilot)

Sellers from AliExpress use an exploit or hack of the shipping company www 17post56.com or www hjyt56.com and they did not sent any package and claim using the link from 17track.net that the package was delivered and picked up by the buyer in 17 days to EUROPE by sea ?! The package is on sea from China to EU just 2 days ? What a scam ! Package also arrived on each stop at exactly the same hour is also a big proof of this fraud. Be aware of this FRAUD !
have you told aliexpress support about this?
 

danelo616

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hello, I bought some batteries and I have also been scammed by 6999orders Store.

the same procedure, i buy, i choose DHL and pay for DHL shipping and the seller sends me HJYTE************Q.

I wrote to him and asked him which shipping company he sent it to me and he told me China Post.

I enter in the China Post search engine I put the tracking number and there is nothing. :confused:

It only works on 17track or on the HJYTE page where it shows information including my name.

I paid by Paypal

Does anyone know how to proceed to get my money back?
 
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DJSmiley

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Most likely you have to contact your cc company.

Afaik ali will deny claim since tracking shows delivered… unless they have figured out the amount of $$$ involved in all these xxxxstore scams
 

Just John

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hello, I bought some batteries and I have also been scammed by 6999orders Store.

the same procedure, i buy, i choose DHL and pay for DHL shipping and the seller sends me HJYTE************Q.

I wrote to him and asked him which shipping company he sent it to me and he told me China Post.

I enter in the China Post search engine I put the tracking number and there is nothing. :confused:

It only works on 17track or on the HJYTE page where it shows information including my name.

I paid by Paypal but I know that Paypal gives the seller the reason if he attaches a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to proceed to get my money back?
Start by disputing the charge with both PayPal and your credit card.
Someone has already posted links where all these scams are being reviewed by places like trustpilot. You should include those links when disputing.
 

Sun$

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These Shops even have Time Machines, it 9 AM here, an 17Track states deliverd totay at 11:31 :) Of Course nothing was delivered. Luckly i had opened a dispute for changing shipping methode. I will wait, hat will happens.
A time machine is correct.

After sending multiple messages to the vendor requesting a tracking number from a shipping company who actually does business in the USA, more specifically DHL as was promissed at time of purchase, the shipping information on 17track magically changed to "Item Delivered" but the date of delivery was 23 days ago!

now the vendor responds with....

亲,包裹已经签收,请您去当地邮局取货
Dear, the parcel has been signed for, please go to the local post office to pick up the goods

I also just noticed for the first time that most of the entries in the tracking information occurred at the exact same second on different days as previous poster pointed out in his tracking info too.
 

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It sounds like 17track.net has an unpatched vulnerability that is allowing scammers/hackers to inject their own records.
The people that are affected by this may wish to start contacting lawyers for a class action lawsuit since it seems there are a good number of them.

If 17track.net is not paying attention to these scams, a lawsuit is a sure way to make them pay attention. It's also a great way to have Alibaba and Aliexpress stop accepting tracking numbers for 17track.net.
 

danelo616

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A time machine is correct.

After sending multiple messages to the vendor requesting a tracking number from a shipping company who actually does business in the USA, more specifically DHL as was promissed at time of purchase, the shipping information on 17track magically changed to "Item Delivered" but the date of delivery was 23 days ago!

now the vendor responds with....

亲,包裹已经签收,请您去当地邮局取货
Dear, the parcel has been signed for, please go to the local post office to pick up the goods

I also just noticed for the first time that most of the entries in the tracking information occurred at the exact same second on different days as previous poster pointed out in his tracking info too.
did you pay with paypal?
 
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ThaiKai

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I have used Paypal for all my orders . Some with CC, some Orders with Paypal withdraw from Bankaccount. I have opened a Case with PayPal for the First Parcel, that never arrived. In the Aftersale App und in the Aliexpress Logistics Website and Cainiao Global it say, shipping pending by Seller, so not a single Battery has been shipped.

Schönen Abend. Nice Evening

Kai
 

danelo616

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He utilizado Paypal para todos mis pedidos. Algunos con CC, algunos pedidos con Paypal se retiran de la cuenta bancaria. Abrí un caso con PayPal para el primer paquete, que nunca llegó. En la aplicación de posventa y en el sitio web de logística de Aliexpress y Cainiao Global se dice, envío pendiente por parte del vendedor, por lo que no se ha enviado ni una sola batería.

Schönen Abend. Linda tarde

Kai
I hope paypal gives you the reason because I just saw that changing the last 3 numbers at the end there are many people from all over Europe who have bought and it is a scam.

Also if you change the last 2 numbers at the same time they are all updated. How is that possible ? even if it is a minute difference for every 10 orders but not all the numbers of the hour are the same.
 

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It sounds like 17track.net has an unpatched vulnerability that is allowing scammers/hackers to inject their own records.
The people that are affected by this may wish to start contacting lawyers for a class action lawsuit since it seems there are a good number of them.

If 17track.net is not paying attention to these scams, a lawsuit is a sure way to make them pay attention. It's also a great way to have Alibaba and Aliexpress stop accepting tracking numbers for 17track.net.

it is caused by Sellers from AliExpress that use an exploit or hack of the shipping company www 17post56.com or www hjyt56.com and they did not sent any package and claim using the link from 17track.net that the package was delivered and picked up by the buyer in 17 days to EUROPE by sea ?! The package is on sea from China to EU just 2 days ? What a scam ! Package also arrived on each stop at exactly the same hour is also a big proof of this fraud. Be aware of this FRAUD !

Please all open Disputes and see that when opening dispute and asking for proof from the seller they add that item was delivered to you, in 1 day by sea from China to Europe like teleporting or some have delivered in the past :

invalit tracking.jpg
 

elvis_asaftei

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was ! 8 Cells with 280 AH for 150 Euros total are so temping ........

Kai, can you please tell me, 8 pieces of CATL 302AH, how much is the average? The quality of how?

No other meaning, I also bought 302ah, I want to know what is the difference?
To be honest, the price is indeed very attractive, but the quality must be as advertised. Have you received the product now?

Please be careful also about all seller reviews.
Not sure if you noticed but the hacker also ads fake comments on the store and this method is used by many stores to boost their trust with fake positive reviews even more than their store number of orders and PWOD , OYE, Sanben or Litokala does this a lot.

You will find very easy the fake reviews .
How can a store have all the reviews in the same day, same hour and the same minute ? (see the image below)
Be very careful about store reviews too ... anonymous and language used by reviews and how accurate are.

comentarii false.jpg
 
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ThaiKai

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was ! 8 Cells with 280 AH for 150 Euros total are so temping ........

Kai, can you please tell me, 8 pieces of CATL 302AH, how much is the average? The quality of how?

No other meaning, I also bought 302ah, I want to know what is the difference?
To be honest, the price is indeed very attractive, but the quality must be as advertised. Have you received the product now?
No, since to Seller never send it, they will
never arrive. For a 280AH with shipping to Germany 120-150 Euros for one Cell or 2600 for 16 Cells.

These Scum-Sellers just take the Money and even save the Shipping Costs, highly efficient.

Kai
 

ThaiKai

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it is caused by Sellers from AliExpress that use an exploit or hack of the shipping company www 17post56.com or www hjyt56.com and they did not sent any package and claim using the link from 17track.net that the package was delivered and picked up by the buyer in 17 days to EUROPE by sea ?! The package is on sea from China to EU just 2 days ? What a scam ! Package also arrived on each stop at exactly the same hour is also a big proof of this fraud. Be aware of this FRAUD !

Please all open Disputes and see that when opening dispute and asking for proof from the seller they add that item was delivered to you, in 1 day by sea from China to Europe like teleporting or some have delivered in the past
 

ThaiKai

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Guten Morgen, Good Morning to all Buyers of cheap LifePo Batteries

I have asked 17Track for Help, serv@17track.net.

The first Answer was an simply "we are Sorry" reply, but i asked them again and these are Screenshots of 17Track und my Parcel on HYTE-Website.

On the HYTE Website my PArcel is still moving, and you can cearly see, 17Track is just Scanning for "Delivered", but is not not faking any Data.
Its just an unlucky programming of the Website, that gives Grey Hair to all of us.

Have a "Nice" Day and kick Aliexpress and the Scammers in the But, they need to move ....

Kai
 

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ThaiKai

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Hi, just an Information for You, that are fighting for there Money

I got 2 Refunds for the bigger Orders from 3999Orders Shop after uploading the 17Track Screenshots showing Fake Delivery time with a still tracking Parcel. A third, smaller Amount order, is still in Frozen Mode since Paypal looked into this ...

Maybe Paypal was a Help here, too. I pointed Paypal to this Forum / Threat.
 

Just John

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Hi, just an Information for You, that are fighting for there Money

I got 2 Refunds for the bigger Orders from 3999Orders Shop after uploading the 17Track Screenshots showing Fake Delivery time with a still tracking Parcel. A third, smaller Amount order, is still in Frozen Mode since Paypal looked into this ...

Maybe Paypal was a Help here, too. I pointed Paypal to this Forum / Threat.
PayPal takes scams like this very seriously and has a LOT of clout with Alibaba/Aliexpress.
They are slow and ponderous, but once you get them looking at a problem that is happening to a lot of people, action will result sometime in the future. How long is the question, but they will get things resolved.

Those who are dealing with this 17track.net scam may wish to ask for a ticket number to reference. It might help if they have a similar problem ticket to look at.
 

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PayPal takes scams like this very seriously and has a LOT of clout with Alibaba/Aliexpress.
They are slow and ponderous, but once you get them looking at a problem that is happening to a lot of people, action will result sometime in the future. How long is the question, but they will get things resolved.

Those who are dealing with this 17track.net scam may wish to ask for a ticket number to reference. It might help if they have a similar problem ticket to look at.
I hope they take it seriously because Aliexpress denied my dispute, now waiting on Paypal to hopefully save the day.
 

elvis_asaftei

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Wow they are even faking Aliexpress reviews now, what chance do we have.

yes, lots of pages with all fake 5 star reviews added at the same hour and minute, and that is absolutely impossible unless they are fake ones.

Now how can we find the fake stores if they do that too ?
 
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