So how many cables in total will I need since I'm stacking 4 boxes?No they are not the same, its 50m2 cable and connetor you going to have a hard time to competed with their prices
So how many cables in total will I need since I'm stacking 4 boxes?No they are not the same, its 50m2 cable and connetor you going to have a hard time to competed with their prices
3 pairs of parallel cables and 1 pair of inverter cablesSo how many cables in total will I need since I'm stacking 4 boxes?
see here https://docs.rs-online.com/7d28/A700000007957493.pdfI think this is the post he is talking about:
(which has a link to a PDF that is about Amphenol connectors.custom made battery box for eve LF280K cells
Hrmmm, I'm not sure I agree that it would cost me more to build myself. In either case, for me it's about having the right wire length. I'd also like to know what connectors they're using, I don't want to rely on shipping from china/another vendor if/when I needed to replace them down the road...diysolarforum.com
The cables (and I'd assume the connectors on the box - won't know until I get my hands on it) appear to be futronics:
Energy storage battery connection system_Solution_Shanghai Futronics Electronic Technology Co.,Ltd.
Energy storage battery connection system_Shanghai Futronics Electronic Technology Co.,Ltd.en.futronics.com.cn
I asked about measurements for the connector cutouts (trying to find the equivalent Amphenol connectors so I could just buy them stateside), but I didn't get a useful response (https://diysolarforum.com/threads/custom-made-battery-box-for-eve-lf280k-cells.33814/post-489008)...
Are the amphenol connectors the same dimensions as the futronics connectors and which ones are on the seplos box?
You can also use 3 parallels pairs and 2 pair of inverter cables to a busbar to increase the Amp to you inverter. for example if you have a DEYE 8KW that can charge/discharge up to 240 A, it is better to use 2 pairs of inverter cable.3 pairs of parallel cables and 1 pair of inverter cables
Yeah, tbh I would have liked if these boxes used 3/0 cable instead of 1/0 but here we are, we can make this workYou can also use 3 parallels pairs and 2 pair of inverter cables to a busbar to increase the Amp to you inverter. for example if you have a DEYE 8KW that can charge/discharge up to 240 A, it is better to use 2 pairs of inverter cable.
The ones on my box appear to be the same as the amphenol connectors in the pdf @sergea just linkedAre the amphenol connectors the same dimensions as the futronics connectors and which ones are on the seplos box?
This short one is the parallel cable right? While the long one is the inverter cable, correct?3 pairs of parallel cables and 1 pair of inverter cables
Yeah, I'm actually going to be using the Deye 12KW Single Phase Hybrid. I'm making payment for it tomorrow.You can also use 3 parallels pairs and 2 pair of inverter cables to a busbar to increase the Amp to you inverter. for example if you have a DEYE 8KW that can charge/discharge up to 240 A, it is better to use 2 pairs of inverter cable.
That is right, the short one with both ends the same connect the stacked units together in parallel. the Inverter cables have battery connectors on one end and ring terminals on the other, to connect from the stack, to your inverter.This short one is the parallel cable right? While the long one is the inverter cable, correct?
Edit : it sounds like I'm mixing them up. ?
that's a great price for 50mm2 cable, a 2M 50mm2 pair cables will cost you 2 x 2 x 15 = 60 + connectors prices >= 100That's some thick cable at 50m2. joke aside, the cable I got from Midsummer is 50mm2 and was £15 plus vat and delivery. its exactly the same i am using a set right now on my Solis inverter.
For a 12kw inverter I would absolutely run the batteries individually to a busbar and from the busbar to the inverter. I definitely would not parallel them, they are not designed for that load.Yeah, I'm actually going to be using the Deye 12KW Single Phase Hybrid. I'm making payment for it tomorrow.
do the math you never going to get a better price else where. even by doing it yourself.But is that not too expensive? Can I get them elsewhere?
so use 2 pairs of cables to be safe, or better to use a busbare connect to each of them. victron has a cheaper version of their lynx power distribution rated for 600A .Yeah, I'm actually going to be using the Deye 12KW Single Phase Hybrid. I'm making payment for it tomorrow.
If i decide to use busbars and do something like this. Does that mean I won't be using any parallel cables at all. Instead, more inverter cables? (longer it seems). Sorry for many questions, I'm a newbie. Just learning along the wayThat is right, the short one with both ends the same connect the stacked units together in parallel. the Inverter cables have battery connectors on one end and ring terminals on the other, to connect from the stack, to your inverter.
they have the power cable in different size, but yes, you connect each battery to a bus bar with a power cable. and the inverter to the busbar with cable with copper lugs at each side. so you need 4 power cable with the same exact size. (make sure they are long enough to connect to the busbar) and 1 cable to connect the busbar to the inverter. don't forget you need breaker/fuse .If i decide to use busbars and do something like this. Does that mean I won't be using any parallel cables at all. Instead, more inverter cables? (longer it seems). Sorry for many questions, I'm a newbie. Just learning along the way
they don't know how to process DDP with VAT. so basically I paid 50 $ for shipping 2 BMS and duty except VAT. Then after getting them, I paid around 25 € VAT for each BMS. For me that's OK. I hope you going to have replacement for your BMS quicly.I ordered four of these cases from Adam/Seplos with the 200amp BMS, two for myself and two for friends of mine, considering I have had very good dealings with their BMS's over the last few years I was fairly happy to do the deal. Prior to the deal I asked if they were in stock and ready to ship, yes was the answer from Adam, so I paid for air freight door to door 7 days which was hugely expensive but they were time critical for my friends builds and fitted their needs perfectly. Roll on a month later still not shipped, then I was informed they didn't have the 200 amp bms so would send the 150amp version instead, chased again on the 10th May and apparently now shipped but don't have a tracking number still... Now I have been told they have shipped them but without the BMS at all as they have run out and not expected until the end of May. To add on top, at the start of March I purchased another 5x 200 amp BMS units on DDP which again they didn't pay the duty ( which I had to pay again) on despite that being the deal and to top it off, three of them were totally dead out of the box. I have been a fairly avid promoter of Seplos but I'm kind of loosing my faith in them now.
You need two busbars, a positive and a negative. From your inverter I would probably run 4/0 gauge cable to each busbar - you can buy these with ring terminals already on them from any solar shop here. then from positive busbar to the positive on each battery (4 inverter cables at the 55mm2 size that seplos supplies), and same for negative busbar.If i decide to use busbars and do something like this. Does that mean I won't be using any parallel cables at all. Instead, more inverter cables? (longer it seems). Sorry for many questions, I'm a newbie. Just learning along the way
seplos cable are sale in pair. the price is for a pair.You need two busbars, a positive and a negative. From your inverter I would probably run 4/0 gauge cable to each busbar - you can buy these with ring terminals already on them from any solar shop here. then from positive busbar to the positive on each battery (4 inverter cables at the 55mm2 size that seplos supplies), and same for negative busbar.
So altogether
2 x 4/0 cables (inverter positive -> positive busbar, inverter negative -> negative busbar), M10 or 3/8" ring terminals on each end
4 x black inverter cable (battery negative -> negative busbar)
4 x red inverter cable (battery positive -> positive busbar)
Sure, I'm just trying to be clear with the guy as to what he needs and the exact number of cables.seplos cable are sale in pair. the price is for a pair.