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Eco-Worthy 48v 100A server rack battery $819.99

I would think the CAN could be used on this battery though instead of a SmartShunt?
Yes. However, most BMSes aren't as accurate a shunt is when it comes to amp-hours in & out. I like both; if your BMS ever has a problem, you can switch control over to the SmartShunt to coordinate charging (assuming the battery is otherwise functional). And it's another data point on state of charge and the ins and outs of your system. It's not required however, you're correct. On the road, I like redundancy.

There's also two different purposes: shunt measures current and voltage. In a Victron system, it can be your source of truth. (Heck, in a non-Victron system, it can be the source of truth). The BMS's primary job is safety: monitor cell voltage, overall battery voltage. Stop bad things. As an extension, when the BMS is controlling charge/discharge, it can tell the inverter to stop charging, reduce current, etc. They serve different but complimentary roles.

My upcoming rebuild will have 2 shunts: main system and one programmed into DC monitor mode. It'll be wired immediately after the 48->12V step-down converter, so I can see in more detail what that part of the system is doing (and know where it's coming from).
 
Anyone know if the cells in these batteries are sensitive to orientation? For example, battery sideways, on end, etc.?
 
Anyone know if the cells in these batteries are sensitive to orientation? For example, battery sideways, on end, etc.?
Only as related to the safety valve on top of the cell...it should ALWAYS be oriented sides or top, NEVER bottom. Jorby-ninja'd
 
(Obviously. not front down either)
Not front side down? My grand plans have been thwarted.
Only as related to the safety valve on top of the cell...it should ALWAYS be oriented sides or top, NEVER bottom. Jorby-ninja'd
Thanks, assumed that much, but can't find details on the cells, and I belive some manufactures can be a little more strict about sideways orientation.

I'll probably be mounting the packs flat/normal when they get installed, but for testing it takes up less room to have them up on end -- just didn't know if it was some huge faux pas with these.
 
Not front side down? My grand plans have been thwarted.

Thanks, assumed that much, but can't find details on the cells, and I belive some manufactures can be a little more strict about sideways orientation.

I'll probably be mounting the packs flat/normal when they get installed, but for testing it takes up less room to have them up on end -- just didn't know if it was some huge faux pas with these.
The safety valve protection (up, sides) is general best-practice, but barracudabob has loaded up the resource section with as much info as I was able to glean myself, doing research..worth a look. Mind you, transparency from China producers has a longggg way to go.
 
Yes, but the eco worthy uses different cells than the EG4.
The EW 12v 280ah batteries in the plastic cases have the cells laying on the sides. This is very common. Mine are out of the cases now and still on their sides. They are the ones under the inverter. They are all happily balanced now in 16s strings with JK bms's.
 

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The EW 12v 280ah batteries in the plastic cases have the cells laying on the sides. This is very common. Mine are out of the cases now and still on their sides. They are the ones under the inverter. They are all happily balanced now in 16s strings with JK bms's.
If you dont mind could you or anyone give me the measurements of the 4 EW battery rack? I have one on its way I just cand find any specs on it thanks
 
If you dont mind could you or anyone give me the measurements of the 4 EW battery rack? I have one on its way I just cand find any specs on it thanks
20 3/4 wide by 23 deep by 30 high. The height can vary a bit with adjustable feet on the bottom. I have mine as shout as they go.
 
This is the sexiest thing I've seen... I have full server rack of 6 (4 EG4-LL's and 2 EW's) and Just bought another 6 server rack to to push me to populate it!
 
20 3/4 wide by 23 deep by 30 high. The height can vary a bit with adjustable feet on the bottom. I have mine as shout as they go.
does it look strong enough to stack a second rack of 4 on top of it?
 
does it look strong enough to stack a second rack of 4 on top of it?
I did do that by leaving the bottom frame off of the upper rack. I bolted the 4 long legs to the top of the lower rack with the same bolts that hold the top on the lower one. Then I leveled it up and bolted the back legs (near the top) to the wall. It was not real stable until I did that. I have 4 racks rigged that way.
 
I’ve been watching this battery go on sale for a while now but this is the lowest I’ve seen it at $819.99. I think it was cheaper back in October but not sure.
Looking to see if anyone has experience mixing EG4 LL 48v Server rack batteries with this Ech-Worthy 48v Server Rack batteries. I've seen they will not communicate with each other. But here is a scenario I'd like to know if it is possible?

I have 6 of the 48v EG4 LL batteries connected to 1 EG4 6000XP. I'm planning on adding a second 6000XP, can I connect the Eco-Worthy batteries to the second 6000XP and have the system see all 12 batteries? If this will work will the Eco-Worthy batteries fit in the EG4 6 slot Server Rack?
 
Looking to see if anyone has experience mixing EG4 LL 48v Server rack batteries with this Ech-Worthy 48v Server Rack batteries. I've seen they will not communicate with each other. But here is a scenario I'd like to know if it is possible?

I have 6 of the 48v EG4 LL batteries connected to 1 EG4 6000XP. I'm planning on adding a second 6000XP, can I connect the Eco-Worthy batteries to the second 6000XP and have the system see all 12 batteries? If this will work will the Eco-Worthy batteries fit in the EG4 6 slot Server Rack?
Yes, but with no communications. Leave the EG4 LL as closed loop and add the E-W to them and it will work fine. You must cycle the E-W a few times and add them all at 100% charge (in my opinion) and the inverter will just see the EG4 LL capacity drop slower. Never know the E-W was there.
 
Yes, but with no communications. Leave the EG4 LL as closed loop and add the E-W to them and it will work fine. You must cycle the E-W a few times and add them all at 100% charge (in my opinion) and the inverter will just see the EG4 LL capacity drop slower. Never know the E-W was there.
Any idea if the E-W batteries will fit in the EG4 Server Rack? I like the EG4 rack with the door and Busbars.
 
Any idea if the E-W batteries will fit in the EG4 Server Rack? I like the EG4 rack with the door and Busbars.
They will fit. You will need shims underneath the battery (between the battery and the support bracket) to lift the battery high enough so that at least two of the bolts holes in the "ears" line up with the bolt holes in the rack
 
Be careful about checking the DEPTH. EG and EcoWorthy can (and sometimes do) have different depths.
 
Any idea if the E-W batteries will fit in the EG4 Server Rack? I like the EG4 rack with the door and Busbars.
Update.. I just put three EW batteries in my EG4 three battery rack and the rack is not deep enough. The mounting "ears" are 1 1/2 inches from the bolt holes. I could use spacers/shims or longer bolts. The rack will not be moved so I can make it work.

My six SunGoldPower batteries have their "ears" set back from the faceplate by one inch and the six EG4 LifePower4 V1 batteries are not as deep as the EW batteries. If the "ear" mounting holes where such that the "ears" could be flipped so they were behind the faceplate rather than flush, it would work.
 

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