jorby
Solar Addict
By mixed, I mean you could end up with V2 from two different production batches, NOT V1 and V2 batteries.
ECO-WORTHY 48V 100Ah 5120Wh LiFePO4 Server Rack Battery
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Thanks!
jorby
Solar Addict
If I change the protocol for the rs485-1 port to "Pace", will the EW software (ES-UP-V1.22.16) still connect to that port if I want to change it back to "PYLON"? In other words. is that software multilingual and auto detect? Anyone brave enough to try that? This is V1 battery that was my master to the inverter. I am now using my JK bms to connect to the inverter because the SOC reported is more in line with the voltage of the battery than the JBD bms, which has been saying 13% at 51.2v.
BarracudaBob
Harvesting free photons from clean fusion
I tried it on the EG4 3K inverter a while back. The battery talked to the inverter and software with no changes to the windows software.
The software could still talk to it no matter what protocoled you try if it has JBD command/response action. That way it would talk to the battery nonmatter what protocol you select.
Give it a try
Jere Harnish
New Member
Thanks for the detailed input! Really appreciate the perspective on open loop vs closed loop. I've heard similar things about EG4's SOC drift issues, so your point about stability makes a lot of sense.
A few follow-ups:
Voltage thresholds: What voltage ranges do you recommend for open loop operation with mixed lithium batteries? I'm running a 48V system, and the ECO-WORTHY units have a slightly different discharge curve compared to EG4.
SmartShunt setup: Do you have any tips for integrating a SmartShunt with mixed battery brands?
Again, thanks for sharing your experience - definitely saving me from some potential headaches!
A few follow-ups:
Voltage thresholds: What voltage ranges do you recommend for open loop operation with mixed lithium batteries? I'm running a 48V system, and the ECO-WORTHY units have a slightly different discharge curve compared to EG4.
SmartShunt setup: Do you have any tips for integrating a SmartShunt with mixed battery brands?
Again, thanks for sharing your experience - definitely saving me from some potential headaches!
jorby
Solar Addict
I use the CAN port with pylon to talk to the inverter and I'm not wanting to change that one. I was wanting to see if I could get solar assistant to connect to the the rack battery using pace protocol on the 485 port where I connect the laptop. At the last second I thought "what if this software wont connect to change it back?"
BarracudaBob
Harvesting free photons from clean fusion
I believe the software will still talk to the battery but it has been a while. I tried a couple different protocol and they worked. Software was always able to connect to the battery. Worst case you may have to turn on/off the BMS.
Once I put them into production I don't mess with them that much. Get all your balancing and cycling done in the beginning and then put them to work.
Give it a try! I'll see if I can do some playing around tomorrow.
Yes understand that because I have ordered from Eco-Worthy before and gotten mixed products even from the same batch. I asked them to ship them all together and said I was happy to wait for the next container in late March so they would all be the same version but they were not willing to do that because eBay requires them to ship something.
Truly hoping I don't get two V2's with different BMS or something.
Bill Young
Engineer from ECO-WORTHY
Hi everyone,Product Upgrade Announcement: Thank You for Your Continued Support!
Five Core Upgrades to Enhance Product Safety and Performance
Dear DIYSolarforum Partners,
We sincerely thank you for your long-term support and valuable feedback, which has been instrumental in driving our product evolution! Based on recent user case studies and community discussions (with special thanks to users like Will for their in-depth sharing), we have completed a number of process innovations. We are pleased to report the core upgrades implemented since February 2024:
Triple Protection for Safety Performance
Upgraded Temperature Monitoring
Optimization Point: Industrial-grade adhesive is used to double-secure the temperature probe beneath the battery cell connector.
Value Enhancement: Transportation vibration resistance increased by 300%, temperature monitoring accuracy up to ±0.5℃.
Effective Batch: Production orders from February 7th onwards.
Hardware Upgrade: Improved crimping process for positive busbar and terminals + double-layer heat shrink tubing protection.
Protection Effect: Poor contact risk reduced by 85%, terminal exposed area reduced by 70%.
Supporting Measures: Insulating sleeves and "Safety Wiring Guide Card" included with the goods.
Special Note: Current products have no quality defects, this is a preventive upgrade.
Structural Improvement: Terminal screw height reduced from 4.9mm to 2.3mm (a 47% reduction).
Ultimate Solution: Launch of a new mold to achieve a fully concealed screw head design.
Background Information: Protective measures strengthened in response to a short circuit case caused by a user's installation error.
Dual-Engine Performance Improvement
Technological Breakthrough: High-precision sorting equipment (accuracy up to 0.1mV) is used.
Measured Data: Cell voltage difference optimized from 5-10mV to 1-2mV.
Efficiency Improvement: Capacity release rate increased by 2.5%.
Effective Time: Production batches from March 1st onwards.
R&D Progress: Raised expansion ridge connector has been laboratory verified.
Product Change: Battery height will increase by 10mm (currently compatible with 97% of standard cabinets).
Progress Description: Mass production process is being tackled and is expected to be put into operation by the end of Q2.
We firmly believe that true product evolution stems from continuous refinement in real-world scenarios. We sincerely invite you to continue sharing your experiences in this forum, and please mention @Bill Young in your sharing.
If you need confirmation of upgrades for specific batches of products, or have professional suggestions for improvement plans, please feel free to contact us privately.
Thank you again for choosing to grow with us!
Bill Young
February 13, 2024
I'm thrilled to provide a comprehensive update on the recent battery upgrades we've implemented.
As you may recall, on February 13th, I shared four key upgrade measures, all of which have now been successfully rolled out. Building on these improvements, our engineering team has introduced two additional enhancements to further optimize your user experience.
Handle Relocation
Firstly, we've redesigned the handle placement. It has been moved from the front panel to the mounting ear. Please note that the mounting ear will now be packaged separately with the product for user installation, rather than being pre-installed. This change significantly reduces the risk of the mounting ear bending during transit, with an expected improvement rate of 99.99%. We apologize to any "bent ear club" members who may be disappointed by this news, but we're confident you'll appreciate the enhanced durability.With this relocation, the mounting ear's hole spacing has also been adjusted from 6cm to 11cm. Please refer to the attached diagram for detailed visuals.
This adjustment means that batteries launching in March will not be compatible with the previous 4-layer rack. To address this, we'll be releasing a new 4-layer rack and an all-new 6-layer rack by the end of March, ensuring compatibility with all battery versions.
Signal Antenna Enhancement
Secondly, we've tackled the signal antenna issue. Our engineers identified that the weakened signal was due to the antenna being positioned inside the shielding metal casing. To rectify this, we've implemented a new mounting strategy: the antenna will now be attached to the metal component securing the air switch, with a 2mm thick foam double-sided adhesive for added stability. Additionally, a 10x20mm hole will be added to this metal component to further boost signal transmission. We anticipate this will extend the signal range to over 48 feet (approximately 15 meters) in unobstructed environments. We'd like to acknowledge @BarracudaBob from the forum, whose insightful suggestion closely aligned with our engineers' solution.
Version Identification
For those who've inquired about distinguishing between V1 and V2 versions, here's a simple tip: V2 versions are equipped with Bluetooth & WiFi functionality, indicated by a MAC address printed on the front or side, and a Bluetooth logo in the top right corner of the label. Please note that the color of the positive and negative terminals, as well as the silk-screen printing color, are not reliable indicators for version identification.Upcoming Battery Release
The upcoming battery model will feature a BMS system identical to the V2 version. Therefore, we're considering it the V2.1 version, reflecting its subtle yet significant technological advancements.Thank you for your continued support. We believe these upgrades will provide you with an even more satisfying user experience.
Feel free to reach out if you have any questions or feedback!
jorby
Solar Addict
Good to hear that my suggestion to not install the ears during shipment will finally be adopted.
jorby
Solar Addict
Yes, they have to ship something to get payment released. So you will get 1 of V2 and 3 of V2.1? I would not worry about it too much.
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Excellent new and full props to @BarracudaBob for helping to improve the battery. I am starting to really consider buying a set.
Jmhai3
Solar Enthusiast
The ears are interchangeable (and handle moving forward) so maybe they will offer the new ears and handles or just the ears with the new spacing for older units. Or vise-a-versa.
You can remove the old handles and put a small plastic plug cover over the holes.
There are always drilling it too...
Just looked at the pic again and wonder if the handle holes for mounting on the ear is at 6cm so they could be removed and new battery mounted on the older racks?
Just a thought.
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BarracudaBob
Harvesting free photons from clean fusion
I love making things more-better
BarracudaBob
Harvesting free photons from clean fusion
They moved them so the end user can get to the screws on the other side of the handle. Makes it EZ to take off the ears and handles for shipping so they don't get damaged by the FedUP guys
I guess that will be the end of the "Bent Ear Club"
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Jmhai3
Solar Enthusiast
Unless you're the 00.01% that does not make it without damage.They moved them so the end user can get to the screws on the other side of the handle. Makes it EZ to take off the ears and handles for shipping so they don't get damaged by the FedUP guys
I guess that will be the end of the "Bent Ear Club"
I guess that damage if to the face would be the terminals, which would probably break too.
"This change significantly reduces the risk of the mounting ear bending during transit, with an expected improvement rate of 99.99%. We apologize to any "bent ear club" members who may be disappointed by this news, but we're confident you'll appreciate the enhanced durability."
BarracudaBob
Harvesting free photons from clean fusion
The damage is usually the ears on the side or if FedUp drops it on the face and the handles push in. Otherwise their new improved high density foam distributes the force over the entire faceplate and it doesn't bend.
marionw
Solar Wizard
The handles being mounted on the "ears" thus closer to the bus bars of a rack may interfere with ease of attachment of the power cable to the rack bus bar. Many battery manufacturers use handles that fold over and lay flat.
Gavin Stone
Solar Wizard
Yeah the folding handles are my favorite. You get the best of both worlds.
Jmhai3
Solar Enthusiast
At least now will be easier to remove...
Not sure what use they are once done moving around before mounting in a rack anyways.
You cannot get much use of them to load into the rack.
I don't think anyone strong enough to hold them and flip it horizontal to slide in.
Would need to support from the bottom anyway.
I personally would need a buddy or adjustable table.
BarracudaBob
Harvesting free photons from clean fusion
The folding are nice but I don't know if they make a 3U version they're always on the larger batteries
Gavin Stone
Solar Wizard
I believe they do yes. I have other rack batteries with roughly the same dimensions that have the folding handles I think.
I could get some measurements today if anyone is interested.
I never reviewed the batteries, the company essentially collapsed before I was able to.
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