Eco-Worthy 5000W Solar Off-grid Inverter Charger 48V DC to 120V AC Split Phase Power Inverter Operating Manual

[erandalln]

I am trying to find an operating manual for the Eco-Worthy 5000W Solar Off-grid Inverter Charger 48V DC to 120V AC Split Phase Power Inverter. The folks at Eco-Worthy appear confused by this request. I assume the unit must have settings that can be... well, "set." I would like to have that information in hand before I try to destroy my house, family and the micro-farm's general grid.
Any help would be appreciated.

 

[JonMez]

@ECO-WORTHY SUPPORT @ECO-WORTHY Sunny can find the manual. I think it’s kicking around in the forums if it’s the split phase model- I know I looked at it at some point

 

[timselectric]

The folks at Eco-Worthy appear confused by this request.

Probably because 120v isn't split-phase.
Maybe you should ask for the manual by its model number.

 

[JonMez]

Probably because 120v isn't split-phase.
Maybe you should ask for the manual by its model number.

There was apparently a sort of funky 5000 W total 240v split phase model. I thought it was a typo at first, but I could swear the manual is kicking around in the forums.

 

[timselectric]

There was apparently a sort of funky 5000 W total 240v split phase model. I thought it was a typo at first, but I could swear the manual is kicking around in the forums.

Split-phase is both 120v/240v single phase.

 

[marionw]

I am trying to find an operating manual for the Eco-Worthy 5000W Solar Off-grid Inverter Charger 48V DC to 120V AC Split Phase Power Inverter. The folks at Eco-Worthy appear confused by this request. I assume the unit must have settings that can be... well, "set." I would like to have that information in hand before I try to destroy my house, family and the micro-farm's general grid.
Any help would be appreciated.

5000W Solar Off-grid Inverter Charger 48V DC to 120V AC Split Phase Power Inverter | ECO-WORTHY

ECO-WORTHY 5000W Solar Hybrid Inverter Charger supports up to 6 units (30kw Max.) in parallel. It's capable of single-phase or split-phase parallel. that means, it can output 110V and 220V at the same time when parallel.

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The EW 5KW (White) is a 120 volt inverter which can be paralleled with a second for 240 volt split phase.

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[ECO-WORTHY SUPPORT]

I am trying to find an operating manual for the Eco-Worthy 5000W Solar Off-grid Inverter Charger 48V DC to 120V AC Split Phase Power Inverter. The folks at Eco-Worthy appear confused by this request. I assume the unit must have settings that can be... well, "set." I would like to have that information in hand before I try to destroy my house, family and the micro-farm's general grid.
Any help would be appreciated.

Currently, all 5kW inverters sold by ECO-WORTHY in the U.S. are equipped with parallel phase functionality. In order to output 240V AC, at least two inverters must be connected in parallel; a single unit is only capable of outputting 120V AC.

If you have purchased the white inverter, please feel free to message me for the user manual.

 

[RvNaut]

I have found the manual to be extremely vague, confusing and indecipherable in places. I have been running another AIO for the last 2.5 years, so i am not new to this, but this manual is not well written....

 

[TraderB]

Currently, all 5kW inverters sold by ECO-WORTHY in the U.S. are equipped with parallel phase functionality. In order to output 240V AC, at least two inverters must be connected in parallel; a single unit is only capable of outputting 120V AC.

If you have purchased the white inverter, please feel free to message me for the user manual.

My inverter label says white/black but it's orange...lol

 

[notjohn]

I am looking into this for the first time and trying to decide between the "Solar Hybrid Inverter" (https://www.ebay.com/itm/126397473714) and the "Off-grid Inverter" (https://www.ebay.com/itm/127350811173).
I don't have any investment in any particular brand yet. I've only looked around for less than one week to get to this point but have taken note that reputable brand names are important. But even then the OEM can vary (re-badging?).

The first difference I notice between these listings (on the official EW ebay store?) is the price difference. The off-grid is ~$150 less than the solar-hybrid. I'm not even exactly sure what qualifies as a 'hybrid' when one of the five operating modes of the off-grid is supposedly 'hybrid charging'.
Looking closer, one of the images of the off-grid show L1, N and L2 for both the AC input and the AC output. I want to hope these indicate split-phase 240 L to L and 120 L to N but as stated earlier in the thread 240 is supposed to be achieved with two units in the states.

My priority is first to start small with a 5kW system (inverter and battery) for disaster backup, that will hopefully power appliances (120v) and heating (240v). I want to allow myself to sink ~$1-2K this year to get started, and possibly more next year.
I've come here to learn, and would appreciate more information from experienced folk about this.

 

[Q-Dog]

This is the first time I see it as a stand alone item. I guess it is a new item. I ordered one 2 weeks ago in a bundle with a battery, for testing purposes. I wish I could give you more info, but they still haven't shipped the inverter so I have no idea what it can or can't do.

 

[Q-Dog]

I should add, they sent me a copy of the manual on pdf, so it looks like a real product.

 

[notjohn]

According to the manual for the ECO-INV-48V5KWHRX01 I have now reviewed, on page 24 under 'AC Output' the 'Rated Voltage' is "240 Vac Split-Phase". I still need clarification if this is achievable with only one unit.
The manual contradicts itself-
* On page 8 there is a wiring diagram showing neutral, live and ground are connected to the unit. Two more ports are shown to the left but not mentioned.
* On page 3 under 'product overview' a labeled diagram shows L1, N, L2, PE, L1, N, L2 ports there, and Point 7 labels some of them as 'Phase separation output' (what I'm interested in).
I need clarification from the product support at this stage- Are two of those units (ECO-INV-48V5KWHRX01) required for 'phase separation output' to be operational, or will one unit be sufficient? By phase-separation I'm referring to US 240Vac with L1-to-N = ~120Vac and L1-to-L2 = ~240Vac.

Currently, all 5kW inverters sold by ECO-WORTHY in the U.S. are equipped with parallel phase functionality. In order to output 240V AC, at least two inverters must be connected in parallel; a single unit is only capable of outputting 120V AC.

If you have purchased the white inverter, please feel free to message me for the user manual.

 

[timselectric]

If the third picture is the correct spec sheet. It states split-phase output.
Which is what we have in North America.

 

[ECO-WORTHY SUPPORT]

This inverter can achieve split-phase 240V output on a single unit. In simple terms, when the AC output is connected to L1 and L2, it outputs 240Vac, and when connected to L1/L2 and N, it outputs 120Vac.
Regarding the interface diagram on page 8 of the manual that you pointed out, we noticed that the selected illustration was not sufficiently precise, which may have caused ambiguity. We sincerely appreciate your feedback and will make improvements in future revisions when possible.

According to the manual for the ECO-INV-48V5KWHRX01 I have now reviewed, on page 24 under 'AC Output' the 'Rated Voltage' is "240 Vac Split-Phase". I still need clarification if this is achievable with only one unit.
The manual contradicts itself-
* On page 8 there is a wiring diagram showing neutral, live and ground are connected to the unit. Two more ports are shown to the left but not mentioned.
* On page 3 under 'product overview' a labeled diagram shows L1, N, L2, PE, L1, N, L2 ports there, and Point 7 labels some of them as 'Phase separation output' (what I'm interested in).
I need clarification from the product support at this stage- Are two of those units (ECO-INV-48V5KWHRX01) required for 'phase separation output' to be operational, or will one unit be sufficient? By phase-separation I'm referring to US 240Vac with L1-to-N = ~120Vac and L1-to-L2 = ~240Vac.

 

[notjohn]

I have additional concerns about the ECO-INV-48V5KWHRX01 from correspondence with the eco-worthy-us store on eBay during the past few days. I'll hear back from their support-center overnight in my local time. I now would like to discuss with community members.

The main concern is that they stated the 240Vac output is only able to be supplied from the unit if at least 180Vac is provided to it. Since the intention was to use it as an off-grid inverter for natural-disaster backup, I don't think that would be an option for me.
What I really need at this stage is the data-sheet for this model unit since there are quirks I'm learning about . That or another product recommendation.


The only reference to 180Vac I located in the manual was on Page 24.

 

[JonMez]

I have additional concerns about the ECO-INV-48V5KWHRX01 from correspondence with the eco-worthy-us store on eBay during the past few days. I'll hear back from their support-center overnight in my local time. I now would like to discuss with community members.

The main concern is that they stated the 240Vac output is only able to be supplied from the unit if at least 180Vac is provided to it. Since the intention was to use it as an off-grid inverter for natural-disaster backup, I don't think that would be an option for me.
What I really need at this stage is the data-sheet for this model unit since there are quirks I'm learning about . That or another product recommendation.
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The only reference to 180Vac I located in the manual was on Page 24.

Curious what you find out but the way I read this is that it can’t use an ac input unless it’s 180v minimum but if there’s no ac input at all your batteries should power it?

 

[timselectric]

If the grid is being used (passed through to the loads) whatever is coming in, is also going out.
If what's coming in, falls below 180v, the inverter will disconnect from the grid, and power the loads itself (at 240v).

 

[JonMez]

If the grid is being used (passed through to the loads) whatever is coming in, is also going out.
If what's coming in, falls below 180v, the inverter will disconnect from the grid, and power the loads itself (at 240v).

That would be my assumption…. I was a little confused as to the guy’s concern.

 

[notjohn]

If the grid is being used (passed through to the loads) whatever is coming in, is also going out.
If what's coming in, falls below 180v, the inverter will disconnect from the grid, and power the loads itself (at 240v).

This would be my hope, too. At this stage I would appreciate confirmation that the ECO-INV-48V5KWHRX01 is able to provide 240Vac truly 'off-grid', without at least 180Vac needing to simultaneously be provided to the unit. It sort of defeats the point, but it has been my understanding from the eBay eco-worthy-us support (you can find an image including my correspondence in my previous reply).

 

[Q-Dog]

I plan to use it completely off grid, in a shed without a grid connection, so I guess we'll find out what it can do once it gets here.

 

[Q-Dog]

The split phase inverter came in a little while ago. The box is a bit beat up and the case was pressed in on one side, but nothing seems to be disconnected or broken inside, and the case was easily pushed back into shape. We'll see what happens when I put power to it ... maybe later today but more likely tomorrow.

The printed manual in the box so far looks identical to the PDF I posted last week.

 

[RvNaut]

The split phase inverter came in a little while ago. The box is a bit beat up and the case was pressed in on one side, but nothing seems to be disconnected or broken inside, and the case was easily pushed back into shape. We'll see what happens when I put power to it ... maybe later today but more likely tomorrow.

Make sure you note the AC in and out are not the same alignment.... will you be hooking up a generator?

 

[timselectric]

Make sure you note the AC in and out are not the same alignment.... will you be hooking up a generator?

They look to be the same, in the picture.

 

[Q-Dog]

I connected it to the battery and turned it on ... it is outputting 115 volts per phase and 231 volts from L1 to L2. Haven't even gone through the settings yet.

I have a string of 8 - 100 watt panels handy, so plugged them in and it says it is charging. This late in the day, and with thunder in the distance I don't expect much charging. Maybe I can play with it some tomorrow.