Eg4 6000xp

[Jason flores]

6000xp for 6000 watts can I take a hot leg from each ac output and hook them up to this 50a gfci box ?
I don't need 240v for my rv but to drive up and connect to my 50a rv .

 

[Noname142]

6000xp for 6000 watts can I take a hot leg from each ac output and hook them up to this 50a gfci box ?
I don't need 240v for my rv but to drive up and connect to my 50a rv .

You didn't specify which "gfci box"

If you are asking about feeding a panel.. yes, you can put 1 hot leg on each side.. Each side would only be 120v. you'd only get 240v if you used a double pole breaker to combine the 2 hot legs.

But, take that with a grain of salt, until we know what "gfci box" you mean.

 

[Jason flores]

Sorry about that i tought i added this

 

[lboucher26]

Should go without saying but you cannot deliver 50 amps. But as long as you don't draw that much your fine. I would suggest a 30 amp breaker after the inverter before the box. Of course you need to size wires correctly etc...etcc...

 

[Jason flores]

More info 48v 7000 w panels
300ah lifepo4 .
Each leg of 6000xp only has 3000 watts I want to use all 6000 watts so splitting the leg on 50a even if I don't use 50a ?

 

[LordBane68]

I hope someone else gives you a definitive answer, but I'm pretty sure that you get 3000W 25amps per leg/line, so probably not what you're wanting.

 

[Noname142]

More info 48v 7000 w panels
300ah lifepo4 .
Each leg of 6000xp only has 3000 watts I want to use all 6000 watts so splitting the leg on 50a even if I don't use 50a ?

The 6000xp is 3,000 per 120v leg. so, 6000 in total.

The RV box you linked has normal 20a 120v outlets.. a 30a 120v RV plug, and a 50a 240v outlet.

I'd assume you'd use the standard L1/L2/N/G, but only the 4prong 50a cord would actually USE both legs.

Without seeing the wiring schamtic, it's impossible to tell if the 20a outlets, and 30a outlet are on the same leg or not. I'd assume they would be on seperate legs to balance the load a bit.. but we'd need the wiring schematic to be sure.

 

[Jason flores]

The 6000xp is 3,000 per 120v leg. so, 6000 in total.

The RV box you linked has normal 20a 120v outlets.. a 30a 120v RV plug, and a 50a 240v outlet.

I'd assume you'd use the standard L1/L2/N/G, but only the 4prong 50a cord would actually USE both legs.

Without seeing the wiring schamtic, it's impossible to tell if the 20a outlets, and 30a outlet are on the same leg or not. I'd assume they would be on seperate legs to balance the load a bit.. but we'd need the wiring schematic to be sure.

Here's the schematic
Thanks for your help

 

[Noname142]

Here's the schematic
Thanks for your help

ok, yes. the 20a 120v, and 30a 120v are on opposite legs.

This would work fine.

 

[AZ Solar Junkie]

In any case, while the 6000XP's inverter can only generate 25 amps on each leg, it does support up to 50 amps in bypass mode. It has been reported that when grid power is present and the loads exceed the 25 amps for a long enough (I don't recall the amount of time), the 6000XP will automatically switch to bypass mode and pass along up to 50 amps until the load drops below the inverter's 25 amp limits for I think it's a few minutes and then it will automatically switch back to using the inverter, so having those 50 amps of shore power hooked up could be nice depending on how much your loads are.

 

[ChrisG]

In any case, while the 6000XP's inverter can only generate 25 amps on each leg, it does support up to 50 amps in bypass mode. It has been reported that when grid power is present and the loads exceed the 25 amps for a long enough (I don't recall the amount of time), the 6000XP will automatically switch to bypass mode and pass along up to 50 amps until the load drops below the inverter's 25 amp limits for I think it's a few minutes and then it will automatically switch back to using the inverter, so having those 50 amps of shore power hooked up could be nice depending on how much your loads are.

Is that confirmed? The switch to grid if load exceeded and back to solar/battery again? Wonder if @Zapper77 tested this.

 

[Zapper77]

Is that confirmed? The switch to grid if load exceeded and back to solar/battery again? Wonder if @Zapper77 tested this.

Yes.

 

[AZ Solar Junkie]

Yes.

This seems like a nice enough behavior they should make a point to highlight it as a feature. I don't find it anywhere on the product pages or the manual, so I'm glad you reported this as it will be particularly useful for my setup.

 

[Zapper77]

Is that confirmed? The switch to grid if load exceeded and back to solar/battery again? Wonder if @Zapper77 tested this.

I'll upload that video now. I just need to find it.

Edit, on the way

 

[ChrisG]

I'll upload that video now. I just need to find it.

Edit, on the way View attachment 180363

Just watched it. Awesome! Are there any big negatives on this inverter yet?

 

[Zapper77]

Just watched it. Awesome! Are there any big negatives on this inverter yet?

Not that I can think of. Just remember 6,000 watts is the DC charging limit.

 

[ChrisG]

Not that I can think of. Just remember 6,000 watts is the DC charging limit.

Per inverter so 12k charging in your setup?

 

[Zapper77]

Per inverter so 12k charging in your setup?

Yes.

mine topped out at 5640 and 6320. So almost 12K total.

 

[G00SE]

Not that I can think of. Just remember 6,000 watts is the DC charging limit.

Is it 120a charge and 8kw input capacity?

 

[Noname142]

Edit: Zapper already linked the video.

 

[Zapper77]

Is it 120a charge and 8kw input capacity?

Your solar input is limited by the inverter AC load and charging limits. Any excess solar would be clipped.

Unfortunately the lower temperatures and sun angle are preventing me from retesting this.

This time of year, my solar array tops out at 6,000 watts and my strings are exceeding the 480v mppt limit.

 

[G00SE]

Your solar input is limited by the inverter AC load and charging limits. Any excess solar would be clipped.

Unfortunately the lower temperatures and sun angle are preventing me from retesting this.

This time of year, my solar array tops out at 6,000 watts and my strings are exceeding the 480v mppt limit.

Makes sense. That’s where my 120a question came from as I thought you were hardware limited to 6000w dc in but it’s the season.

 

[JasonHaws]

I feel like I'm in the right place for asking this question. I'm going to put the 6000XP in my 50A RV.

When I'm connected to 50A shore power (120/240), everything should work as planned when connecting my L1, L2, N, and G to the XP.
However, if I pull up to a 15-30A site and use a dog-bone that takes 120V singe phase and spreads that phase between L1 and L2 (Not split phased), would that cause an issue?


The manual says it can take grid input between 120-240 volts so I messaged signature solar to inquire. Below is my question and their response...

ME: Is it theoretically safe to connect inverter to 120v Single Phase shore power (15-30amp) that is spread evenly between L1 and L2 via a Dog bone adapter. (see below)

1. Of course I would disable the Ground/Neutral bond on the inverter

Signature Solar: It's not safe, we advise running it through the breaker panel, treating it like its another load. That Plug would not work for this application.
Why would this cause an issue? I need to be educated.

Thanks!
BONUS... While I'm here I might as well share the other questions I asked since I'm crossing my fingers that the answer they gave me is False. Some of the above comments in this thread support the answer that I want to hear.


ME: When the inverter is connected to shore power via a 120/240 50Amp outlet. Does the Inverter “pass thru” the full 12,000Watts if needed? (50 amps at 120V on each Leg). If so, does the output limit of 6000Watts only refers to how much total power the inverter can supply when inverting from DC to AC?

Signature Solar: Its actually 25 amps per leg for a total of 50a for both legs. 25x120=3000x2=6000w for pass through, I don't know why its phrased "Rated Output current @ 240v....25a" but i checked with two colleagues including my team lead and they confirmed its 6000w total at 3000w each leg. From DC it has a maximum of 8000w with 4000w per MPPT. Whereas AC to AC is 6000w.

Can anyone confirm the accuracy of this answer?

 

[AZ Solar Junkie]

I feel like I'm in the right place for asking this question. I'm going to put the 6000XP in my 50A RV.

When I'm connected to 50A shore power (120/240), everything should work as planned when connecting my L1, L2, N, and G to the XP.
However, if I pull up to a 15-30A site and use a dog-bone that takes 120V singe phase and spreads that phase between L1 and L2 (Not split phased), would that cause an issue?


The manual says it can take grid input between 120-240 volts so I messaged signature solar to inquire. Below is my question and their response...

ME: Is it theoretically safe to connect inverter to 120v Single Phase shore power (15-30amp) that is spread evenly between L1 and L2 via a Dog bone adapter. (see below)

1. Of course I would disable the Ground/Neutral bond on the inverter

Signature Solar: It's not safe, we advise running it through the breaker panel, treating it like its another load. That Plug would not work for this application.
Why would this cause an issue? I need to be educated.

Thanks!
BONUS... While I'm here I might as well share the other questions I asked since I'm crossing my fingers that the answer they gave me is False. Some of the above comments in this thread support the answer that I want to hear.


ME: When the inverter is connected to shore power via a 120/240 50Amp outlet. Does the Inverter “pass thru” the full 12,000Watts if needed? (50 amps at 120V on each Leg). If so, does the output limit of 6000Watts only refers to how much total power the inverter can supply when inverting from DC to AC?

Signature Solar: Its actually 25 amps per leg for a total of 50a for both legs. 25x120=3000x2=6000w for pass through, I don't know why its phrased "Rated Output current @ 240v....25a" but i checked with two colleagues including my team lead and they confirmed its 6000w total at 3000w each leg. From DC it has a maximum of 8000w with 4000w per MPPT. Whereas AC to AC is 6000w.

Can anyone confirm the accuracy of this answer?

The answer to the first question is I’m sure correct, but the answer re: pass through power is definitely mistaken. The pass through power is twice what the inverter supports. It will pass through 50 amps on each leg. Mine passes through ~30 amps per leg on a regular basis when I run my dryer combined with other loads at the same time.

 

[Zapper77]

I feel like I'm in the right place for asking this question. I'm going to put the 6000XP in my 50A RV.

When I'm connected to 50A shore power (120/240), everything should work as planned when connecting my L1, L2, N, and G to the XP.
However, if I pull up to a 15-30A site and use a dog-bone that takes 120V singe phase and spreads that phase between L1 and L2 (Not split phased), would that cause an issue?


The manual says it can take grid input between 120-240 volts so I messaged signature solar to inquire. Below is my question and their response...

ME: Is it theoretically safe to connect inverter to 120v Single Phase shore power (15-30amp) that is spread evenly between L1 and L2 via a Dog bone adapter. (see below)

1. Of course I would disable the Ground/Neutral bond on the inverter

Signature Solar: It's not safe, we advise running it through the breaker panel, treating it like its another load. That Plug would not work for this application.
Why would this cause an issue? I need to be educated.

Thanks!
BONUS... While I'm here I might as well share the other questions I asked since I'm crossing my fingers that the answer they gave me is False. Some of the above comments in this thread support the answer that I want to hear.


ME: When the inverter is connected to shore power via a 120/240 50Amp outlet. Does the Inverter “pass thru” the full 12,000Watts if needed? (50 amps at 120V on each Leg). If so, does the output limit of 6000Watts only refers to how much total power the inverter can supply when inverting from DC to AC?

Signature Solar: Its actually 25 amps per leg for a total of 50a for both legs. 25x120=3000x2=6000w for pass through, I don't know why its phrased "Rated Output current @ 240v....25a" but i checked with two colleagues including my team lead and they confirmed its 6000w total at 3000w each leg. From DC it has a maximum of 8000w with 4000w per MPPT. Whereas AC to AC is 6000w.

Can anyone confirm the accuracy of this answer?

Pass through is rates at 50 amps per leg. Psst the breakers are actually rated for 63 amps. (I have no idea what the relay is rated for) side note 63 x 80% = 50

No the inverter will not allow an AC grid connection on a single 120v leg...I don't recommend bridging L1 with L2.