FWIW, I find it helpful to keep Starlink and my router, switch, and home automation equipment on a UPS, even though we're off grid and "always" on battery. Came in very handy when the whole house rebooted after an EG4 firmware upgrade (twice, as I was a couple of versions back). I only need about 5 minutes of backup, I find. But it sure beats that annoying wait for Starlink to find satellites again.
EG4 Web Monitor - battery detailed info on all batteries , am I going mad?
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Quattrohead
Emperor Of Solar
This reminds me I must get around to replacing the battery in my UPS, last time I went through firmware updates the UPS couldn't handle it anymore.
sjordan0228
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Not sure if you guys are aware but the extra battery info only will show up in a browser connected to the eg4 portal. If you are trying to see the info on the apple phone app it won't show.
Also I originally did not have this data showing for me. I changed from 0 to 1 on battery type and it showed up I after I restarted the 18kpv.
BTW has anyone figured out where this battery data is stored? I exported out the values and don't see individual data on the batteries.
Also I originally did not have this data showing for me. I changed from 0 to 1 on battery type and it showed up I after I restarted the 18kpv.
BTW has anyone figured out where this battery data is stored? I exported out the values and don't see individual data on the batteries.
wpns
Solar Joules are catch and release
It doesn't appear to be stored anywhere, it's a feature of the secret Master Battery Protocol. Pretty frustrating... I can tell _everything_ about my individual batteries _except_ battery one, which only gives me a subset of the data
I thought the only way to get the individual cell data was by connecting an RS 485 with a USB end and downloading it to a laptop from time to time?
From day one i have been wanting to see cell/ BMS temps as well.. and make sure the heaters were doing their jobs when freezing at night.
wpns
Solar Joules are catch and release
I'm working on a separate 48V inverter for the computer and network infrastructure in my detached garage, but there are a lot of moving parts. Hopefully there are no issues with tapping power off the batteries, like AC superimposed on the (isolated) positive and negative battery terminals...
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To get battery data, you would need use the BMS Tools software that you can download from our website.
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sjordan0228
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That's ridiculous. I just ordered one of the monitormy solar dongles. Hopefully this can get figured out. I may take a look myself if I get any time to see if I can figure out the secret sauce.
wpns
Solar Joules are catch and release
Let us know!
wpns
Solar Joules are catch and release
Does the BMS tools software work with the Primary battery at Address 1?To get battery data, you would need use the BMS Tools software that you can download from our website.
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sjordan0228
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Looks like the bms tool sets up a local sqlite db when you run it. Worse case scenario you could prob run the tool, set it to monitor and then remotely connect to the DB and grab your data. Seems very janky but could work.
jeff.lankford
Solar Enthusiast
So, no inverter communications while you have laptop monitor archiving data.
sjordan0228
New Member
that sux.
They must be query at a interval thats different then anything else. I noticed that the battery info on the eg4 portal doesn't always match up....like its minutes behind everything else.
jeff.lankford
Solar Enthusiast
I've noticed the same thing.
2-6000XPs running 6 eg4LLs on battery lithium type (0), All showing information accurately. Saw somebody mention they should be on Lithium (1)?
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wpns
Solar Joules are catch and release
Yes, Lithium (1), not Lithium (EG4).
Well not sure what this would change in my system. I'll give it a try to see if any changes occur. It has been working fine and reporting battery information for months on setting (0). I have six LLs and the only thing bothering me is one of the batteries only charges up to 99 or 98 percent while the rest reset to 100%. Maybe this will balance better the charging although I suspect the master battery bms is the one who controls this. All cables are equal length and also have tried user define for a while and all would reset to 100%. Returning to closed loop and after a couple of days the same battery will only charge to 99 / 100 percent. Change the master battery from the top one to the bottom one / no change.
jeff.lankford
Solar Enthusiast
Try using Volt charge control in closed loop, instead of SOC control. You have a SOC drift issue, and as soon as you switch back to closed loop the SOC drift accumulation begins again. One battery is showing a lower SOC, but in fact all of your batteries have a lower actual SOC while reporting 100%. Nothing is getting charged to full because with SOC control as soon as the inverter sees the battery bank reaches 100% it stops charging even if a full charge still had a long way to go. Changing to closed loop Volt control should fix that.
My understanding is there is no close loop charging voltage control on the 6000XP. Would have to use lead acid mode with bulk / float. It is strange because the 6000XP does have close loop voltage control for discharging but not charging.
jeff.lankford
Solar Enthusiast
OK, my mistake. I'm only experienced with the 18Kpv.
Are you charging using Gen, Solar, or Grid?
If it is Gen or Grid, I believe you can set those to charge based on Voltage - PV no such luck.
One thing to note, when I switched from Bat type 0 to bat type 1 it did help "some" with my drift. I went from 7-8 percent to 2-3 percent.
I have also noticed that during the summer when I am getting good solar, the batteries will top to 100 on one and 99 on the other, the BMS will shut down charging and then after a while the batteries will balance and the BMS will accept charging again eventually both balancing to 100%.
It seems that the process takes about an hour or two after a "full" charge has been done.
Stay with EG4, I tried changing EG4 to "1" and it was a total fail for me. There are people using the EG4 setting and it works. For me with LL-v1 and LL-v2 it did not.
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Changed to 1. Everything seems the same. System just finished charging up. 5 showing 100% SOC. The one that charges to 98% charged to 98% again.
jeff.lankford
Solar Enthusiast
I believe the '1' setting is only for later batteries - LL-S and wallmounts.
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