Fake Victron 6-way holder?
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42OhmsPA
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Scamazon reviews have photos that look identical to yours, maybe it's just a cheap Victron product.
That's the link I bought from, an import cycle error
42OhmsPA
What's in a title?
Here's a reassuring review.
LOL it's reassuring to the direction that it's fake I think, i still believe Victron won't do something crappy
OzSolar
Whatever you did, that's what you planned.
Not that it proves it one way or the other but I will offer that a lot of Victron accessory sort of gear that I've bought does come in that same oddly generic packaging.
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robbob2112
Doing more research, mosty harmless
Take the bus bar out and file off a bottom corner, go deep enough to get through the plating. Identify the metal it is made from. If it is copper it is probably real. If it is brass it may be fake. Either way measure the dimensions of the end. Look it up and see what the current carry capacity is.
General rule of thumb, take the area in inches and multiple by 1000 for copper and 750 for brass. So 1 in wide by 1/4 thick is 1/4in^2 times 1000 = 250amp
Not as accurate as looking it up in a table but in the ballpark.
General rule of thumb, take the area in inches and multiple by 1000 for copper and 750 for brass. So 1 in wide by 1/4 thick is 1/4in^2 times 1000 = 250amp
Not as accurate as looking it up in a table but in the ballpark.
Suijkerbuijk
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stok
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the young man fuse holder and busbar does seem to look like a legit victron product. It seems to be their cheaper range of fuse holders and busbar products. The pictures on their official website also have the young man marking on it. I cannot judge the quality but if it is a real victron product the quality should be top shelf.
outsider
Solar Enthusiast
500 A peak intermittent rating, maybe? Like a 1 kW inverter can make 2 kW peak?
Those rascals make fake iPhones, Glocks, High end Gibson guitars, dewalt litium batts , youn sme it , they will make it…
there’s nothing they won’t do…ya have to be aware and buy from USA based company’s thst will stand behind the product if fake or counterfeit…
there’s nothing they won’t do…ya have to be aware and buy from USA based company’s thst will stand behind the product if fake or counterfeit…
robbob2112
Doing more research, mosty harmless
When you get it file off a corner and verify the metal. Then meassure it and look it up on the copper association website or the book in the resource section here to see what it will actually carry
sunshine_eggo
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Fuses & fuse holders - Victron Energy
With Victron Energy's fuses and holders you can connect several fuse holders together. Find a dealer nearby.
It helps to know some of the stats on what your buying so you can spot a typo or wrong stat…
Amazon will occasionally use numbers that are wrongly typed in by data entry people who have no idea what’s the product even is … I have seen it now and then…
if you see an error then verify it through research… don’t trust the first thing you see… verify and research…
Hell, I will call the main company and talk to the techs that designed the product if I have to…or if I get confused ….
Somtimes the forum members know much more than the people selling the stuff.. that’s cool too.
Info, returns and customer service are generally rather easy if your dealing with USA based company’s , that handles thst product and have a business with a real address , in a city and state and have a good background in doing business ….
it can be ordered from Amazon or them…
If you just jump on Amazon and order the cheapest thing possible from “God knows who ” without doing a little homework , things can go south …
It’s just the way of todays market place …you have to know a little about who and what your buying if it’s pricey…if it’s not , then it’s not a biggie…take a shot…
Best of luck…J.
Rednecktek
Expert Newbie
Problem solved! It's legit now.
Q-Dog
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Can you show us on the doll where Mr. Victron touched you?
Rednecktek
Expert Newbie
Q-Dog
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If $28 for a bus bar with fuse holders is too expensive, then I can't help you.
Took the bus bar out measured it and filed some of the plating off on the edge. It appears to be copper under the plating. Dimensions are 4mm thick, 20mm wide, and 123 mm long. According to this https://www.copper.org/applications/electrical/busbar/busbar_ampacities.html dc bus bar table and converting to 1/8 inch by 3/4 inch cross sectional area the bus bar is rated for 215 amps.
My guess is that the amp rating got entered wrong in Amazon. I need something for 300amp so I'm returning it and getting something else.
My guess is that the amp rating got entered wrong in Amazon. I need something for 300amp so I'm returning it and getting something else.
Suijkerbuijk
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I have order this model my self
Rate it for 400a
Cost about 40 euro and you can find this model on Ali to for cheaper.
Its really thick plate of copper.
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Also remember "ratings" about how much a busbar can take have to indicate at what temperature. That copper.org site for instance does mention the table is for an ampacity rating based on a 30°C rise above a 40°C ambient. this is relevant because at some point that plastic holding it will melt
. So you could have two different busbars of exact same cross section with one rated higher simply because whatever it is mounted on can withstand higher temps.Similar threads
