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First Battery Build

rtrainer

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Trying to build my first battery and I am running into a problem. I have purchased 4 314AH cells. All cells measured 3.29V. Since I didn't know the SOC, I decided to use my lithium charger to jump start the process. Connected them in a 4S configuration and let the charger run. Took a while but eventually the charge complete light came on. Next up was top balancing. This is where I think I have a problem. Connected them in parallel and wired up a 10A power supply. PS is set for 3.65V. Initial current draw was about 4.5A. I ran it for about 24 hours with the current dropping to about 3.75A. Voltage went to 3.35V. Left the PS connected and ran it for another 24 hours. The current never got below 3.5A. Per Will's video, this should drop to close to 0A.

Do I have a problem or am I just being impatient?

TIA
 
Hi there,before connecting and charging lifepo4(or any) batteries it is vital to get informed what and how to do things,also get some idea how the chemistry behaves ,if you haven't had lifepo4 before. It is vital for you and people are living with you to have the highest safety measures while handling and putting the cells together as a whole bank.Charging to 3.65V is a nogo as charging in series without a bms is also a nogo....It is also a good way to precharge lifepo4 cells individually,as it is possible in this way to value each one seperatlely: capacitance,discharge behaviour and length of charge.It is advisable at least with this first steps to keep near your cells and check them for correct connections and if they stay at temperature...When the cells arrive and they are new, they should have a SOC of roughly 30%: a cell with 314Ah nominal has got easily a capacity of 320-335Ah therefore 30% means that you need to charge them with about 215Ah(in total).With a 10A charger that would be more then two days entirely of charging.If your charger charges with less Ampere,the length of charge is regarding to.....Charging: when you charge lifepo4 cells in series there is a BMS needed.It's task is to protect the cells from over- and undervoltage and current,temperature ,as wll as balancing the individual cells to avoid cell drifting and shut-downs because of a singular cell's over/under-voltage.Charging -regardless of series or parallel connections is done where the lifepo4 cells feel comfortable with: charging over 3.45V and discharging lower then 2.9-3.00V per cell gives you very little extra gain while the cells might be stressed especially under harsh conditions i.e. high charging and discharging rates and high ambient temperature.There are other several things to do on a regular basis wich means a maintanance plan should be worked out and followed on a regular base(this includes to observe a complete charging/discharging cycle,temperature controls and connection controls)
You see this is not an easy "just putting it together job" but involves basic knowledge,some handywork and lots of time to check,check and check again.In this way cou would guarantee a certain level of safety for you and your family!Best of luck Frank
 
current dropping to about 3.75A. Voltage went to 3.35V.
314Ah / 3.35A = 94h from empty, guessing you started around 50%? (so 50 hours)

What does your parallel charging wiring look like? Using alligator clips? Wired in a balanced manner (positive one end, negative the other)? Have a pic?
 
@rtrainer those alligator clips are what is drastically limiting your charging. If you used terminal rings, you'd almost certainly be able to get the most out of your power supply.
 
Other then having cables with such a tiny diameter,charging to 3.66V is pushing things to the limit.Like anything in life,it comes down to decisions....Best of luck from me,though
 
Now I'm getting proud of you,slowly!😅
Might be an idea to compress them already?If you want:unsure:
Now get your charging voltage right: 3.45V not more!
 
Other then having cables with such a tiny diameter,charging to 3.66V is pushing things to the limit.Like anything in life,it comes down to decisions....Best of luck from me,though
He’s top balancing to the correct 3.65v, not 3.66 as you stated. Also those power supply wire leads are fine for what he’s doing. Changing to ring terminals will help him push the current to get that top balance done.
 
Trying to build my first battery and I am running into a problem. I have purchased 4 314AH cells. All cells measured 3.29V. Since I didn't know the SOC, I decided to use my lithium charger to jump start the process. Connected them in a 4S configuration and let the charger run. Took a while but eventually the charge complete light came on. Next up was top balancing. This is where I think I have a problem. Connected them in parallel and wired up a 10A power supply. PS is set for 3.65V. Initial current draw was about 4.5A. I ran it for about 24 hours with the current dropping to about 3.75A. Voltage went to 3.35V. Left the PS connected and ran it for another 24 hours. The current never got below 3.5A. Per Will's video, this should drop to close to 0A.

Do I have a problem or am I just being impatient?

TIA
Same thing happened to me when i was building my Lifepo4 battery packs and i used a good battery charger and thick cables.
They reached 3.65v but they were still drawing some amps many hours later so i just assumed they were quite balanced already and proceed to the assembly.
If you have 3.5 amps at 3.65volts that is 12.7 watts, so they are probably quite full.
 

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