How to mount the B+ and P+ connections on this BMS

[CV350]

I have a Spelos 48v 200A 16S BMS (see link below) and this BMS has three contact/ screw points on a bar strip (see the attached jpeg....BT B+ and P+) for connection of the battery negative (B+) and inverter side positive (P+).

I have a few questions on the purpose and options with connection as it relates to this BMS.

1. I am connecting the battery and inverter (Growatt SPF5000TS HVM) to the BMS with 2/0 AWG and looking at the BMS I am wondering why it has so many points on the positive side for connection (3 x 2) and why is it not the same on the negative side?

2. To get a good connection with the 2/0 AWG wire lug that I will use, I am thinking of fabricating two copper busbars to run across the two BMS strips (BT B+ and P+ in the jpeg) and joining each of those busbars with three screws. This in turn will allow me to get a stronger contact at the busbar with a 2/0AWG lug.

I see also that some people run multiple smaller wires to the terminal points on the BMS but this still means that I have to bring those points together at the battery and inverter terminals and as I have the 2/0AWG wire this would seem like another potential failure point. Which is the better option a) the busbar with a single large wire b). three smaller wires connected to the BMS and coming together as one lug on the battery or inverter?

3. If I run multiple smaller gauge wires between the battery, BMS and then inverter what size wire would I need to use to match the 2/0AWG wire?

4. What extra functionality do I get running both positive and negative thru the BMS vs say some of the Dalys where I only see a single wire connection on the negative side?

The 2/0AWG wire sizing (vs the 200A BMS) is me being cautious and thinking forward for when I eventually add additional capacity.

Thanks for help.

CAN BUS RS485 48v 200A 8S-16S lithium iron phosphate lifepo4 bms monitoring system battery management system

 

[shadowsteve]

This page has wire cross sectional area https://www.rapidtables.com/calc/wire/wire-gauge-chart.html

A pair of #2 is pretty close to 2/0. Three #3 is good too but I don't know if that is easy to find or not.

 

[CV350]

Thanks shadowsteve.

 

[CV350]

Bumping. Anyone have an answer to my question numbers 1,2 and 4?

 

[shadowsteve]

I don't have that BMS, I'm using JBD 150's. I'm using 2x #4 wires from the cells to the BMS and BMS to the output for the negative side. I'll use a single #2 for the positive output. The JBD I have supports heaters so I'll also run a small wire to the B+ on the BMS to support that

For my inverter/charger I need 4/0 and will run 2x 1/0 for an equivalent

 

[CV350]

Thanks shadowsteve. What I don’t understand is why the BMS is manufactured with 3 contact points on the positive side and just one point on the negative? And why it has both positive and negative connections vis a viz others. I purchased it because it’s compatible with my Growatt inverter and has a coms connection.

 

[Sanwizard]

I have a Spelos 48v 200A 16S BMS (see link below) and this BMS has three contact/ screw points on a bar strip (see the attached jpeg....BT B+ and P+) for connection of the battery negative (B+) and inverter side positive (P+).

I have a few questions on the purpose and options with connection as it relates to this BMS.

1. I am connecting the battery and inverter (Growatt SPF5000TS HVM) to the BMS with 2/0 AWG and looking at the BMS I am wondering why it has so many points on the positive side for connection (3 x 2) and why is it not the same on the negative side?

2. To get a good connection with the 2/0 AWG wire lug that I will use, I am thinking of fabricating two copper busbars to run across the two BMS strips (BT B+ and P+ in the jpeg) and joining each of those busbars with three screws. This in turn will allow me to get a stronger contact at the busbar with a 2/0AWG lug.

I see also that some people run multiple smaller wires to the terminal points on the BMS but this still means that I have to bring those points together at the battery and inverter terminals and as I have the 2/0AWG wire this would seem like another potential failure point. Which is the better option a) the busbar with a single large wire b). three smaller wires connected to the BMS and coming together as one lug on the battery or inverter?

3. If I run multiple smaller gauge wires between the battery, BMS and then inverter what size wire would I need to use to match the 2/0AWG wire?

4. What extra functionality do I get running both positive and negative thru the BMS vs say some of the Dalys where I only see a single wire connection on the negative side?

The 2/0AWG wire sizing (vs the 200A BMS) is me being cautious and thinking forward for when I eventually add additional capacity.

Thanks for help.

CAN BUS RS485 48v 200A 8S-16S lithium iron phosphate lifepo4 bms monitoring system battery management system

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As for wires, my 200amp Heltec BMS comes with 2 x 7awg for each connection.

 

[CV350]

Thanks Sanwizard. That battery box is a nice bit of kit. I'll probably also split the wires coming from the battery.