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robbob2112

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I wasn't very specific, I just told it 16s with the largest available eve cells and a diagram.

Here is the result for amusement purposes only



Certainly! Here are the detailed steps to assemble a DIY LiFePO4 (LFP) battery using EVE prismatic cells in a 16S1P configuration, based on the provided diagram:

### Components Needed:
1. **Battery Cells:**
- 16 EVE LF304K prismatic cells (304Ah each).

2. **Battery Management System (BMS):**
- Batrium Watchmon 5 BMS.
- Longmons or Cellmons for cell monitoring.
- Shunt module for current monitoring.
- Temperature sensors.

3. **Interconnects and Busbars:**
- Copper busbars for connecting cells.
- Copper terminals (lugs) for cable connections.
- Insulated terminal covers.

4. **Protection Devices:**
- Class T fuse (appropriate for the total current rating, e.g., 300A or 400A).
- Shunt trip breaker.
- Battery disconnect switch.

5. **Enclosure:**
- Ignition-safe enclosure with proper ventilation.
- Rack mounting hardware (if using a server rack configuration).

6. **Wiring and Connectors:**
- High-quality copper cables (e.g., 2/0 AWG) for high-current connections.
- Heat shrink tubing for insulation and protection.
- Cable lugs.
- Insulating tape.
- Cable ties for organizing cables.

7. **Monitoring and Control:**
- Batrium BMS monitoring software.
- Optional display panel for real-time monitoring.

8. **Tools and Accessories:**
- Torque wrench.
- Multimeter.
- Crimping tool.
- Fire extinguisher for safety.

### Assembly Steps:

1. **Prepare the Enclosure:**
- Ensure the enclosure is properly insulated and ventilated.
- Securely mount the enclosure in the desired location.

2. **Arrange the Cells:**
- Place the 16 EVE prismatic cells in the enclosure.
- Ensure they are securely mounted and spaced appropriately to prevent movement and ensure ventilation.

3. **Connect the Cells:**
- Use copper busbars to connect the cells in series. This means connecting the positive terminal of one cell to the negative terminal of the next cell.
- Repeat this for all 16 cells, resulting in a 48V battery pack.

4. **Install the BMS:**
- Attach the Batrium BMS to the enclosure.
- Connect the Longmons or Cellmons to each cell. These should be connected to monitor individual cell voltages and temperatures.
- Connect the communication cables from the Longmons/Cellmons to the Batrium BMS.
- Install the shunt module for current monitoring on the main negative terminal.

5. **Wire the Shunt:**
- Install the shunt for current measurement between the battery negative terminal and the main negative cable leading to the load/inverter.

6. **Connect Protection Devices:**
- Install the Class T fuse on the main positive terminal of the battery.
- Install the shunt trip breaker in line with the main positive cable.
- Install the battery disconnect switch for the entire battery pack, typically on the main positive line.

7. **Connect the Main Cables:**
- Use high-quality copper cables (e.g., 2/0 AWG) to connect the battery to the load/inverter.
- Ensure all connections are tight and properly insulated using heat shrink tubing and insulating tape.

8. **Test the System:**
- Before finalizing the installation, check all connections.
- Measure voltages to ensure proper series connections (should total 48V).
- Ensure the BMS is properly connected and monitoring each cell.

9. **Configure the BMS:**
- Use the Batrium BMS monitoring software to set up and calibrate the BMS according to your system requirements.
- Set up parameters such as over-voltage, under-voltage, and temperature thresholds.

10. **Monitor and Maintain:**
- Regularly check the battery status using the BMS software.
- Perform any necessary maintenance, such as checking connections and ensuring proper ventilation.

### Safety Precautions:
- Always wear protective equipment, such as gloves and safety glasses.
- Work in a well-ventilated area.
- Ensure all tools and components are rated for the expected current and voltage.
- Double-check all connections for tightness and proper insulation.
- Keep a fire extinguisher nearby in case of any thermal events.

Following these steps will help you assemble your DIY LiFePO4 battery safely and effectively. If you have any questions or need further assistance, feel free to ask!
 

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robbob2112 said:
I wasn't very specific, I just told it 16s with the largest available eve cells and a diagram.

Here is the result for amusement purposes only



Certainly! Here are the detailed steps to assemble a DIY LiFePO4 (LFP) battery using EVE prismatic cells in a 16S1P configuration, based on the provided diagram:

### Components Needed:
1. **Battery Cells:**
- 16 EVE LF304K prismatic cells (304Ah each).

2. **Battery Management System (BMS):**
- Batrium Watchmon 5 BMS.
- Longmons or Cellmons for cell monitoring.
- Shunt module for current monitoring.
- Temperature sensors.

3. **Interconnects and Busbars:**
- Copper busbars for connecting cells.
- Copper terminals (lugs) for cable connections.
- Insulated terminal covers.

4. **Protection Devices:**
- Class T fuse (appropriate for the total current rating, e.g., 300A or 400A).
- Shunt trip breaker.
- Battery disconnect switch.

5. **Enclosure:**
- Ignition-safe enclosure with proper ventilation.
- Rack mounting hardware (if using a server rack configuration).

6. **Wiring and Connectors:**
- High-quality copper cables (e.g., 2/0 AWG) for high-current connections.
- Heat shrink tubing for insulation and protection.
- Cable lugs.
- Insulating tape.
- Cable ties for organizing cables.

7. **Monitoring and Control:**
- Batrium BMS monitoring software.
- Optional display panel for real-time monitoring.

8. **Tools and Accessories:**
- Torque wrench.
- Multimeter.
- Crimping tool.
- Fire extinguisher for safety.

### Assembly Steps:

1. **Prepare the Enclosure:**
- Ensure the enclosure is properly insulated and ventilated.
- Securely mount the enclosure in the desired location.

2. **Arrange the Cells:**
- Place the 16 EVE prismatic cells in the enclosure.
- Ensure they are securely mounted and spaced appropriately to prevent movement and ensure ventilation.

3. **Connect the Cells:**
- Use copper busbars to connect the cells in series. This means connecting the positive terminal of one cell to the negative terminal of the next cell.
- Repeat this for all 16 cells, resulting in a 48V battery pack.

4. **Install the BMS:**
- Attach the Batrium BMS to the enclosure.
- Connect the Longmons or Cellmons to each cell. These should be connected to monitor individual cell voltages and temperatures.
- Connect the communication cables from the Longmons/Cellmons to the Batrium BMS.
- Install the shunt module for current monitoring on the main negative terminal.

5. **Wire the Shunt:**
- Install the shunt for current measurement between the battery negative terminal and the main negative cable leading to the load/inverter.

6. **Connect Protection Devices:**
- Install the Class T fuse on the main positive terminal of the battery.
- Install the shunt trip breaker in line with the main positive cable.
- Install the battery disconnect switch for the entire battery pack, typically on the main positive line.

7. **Connect the Main Cables:**
- Use high-quality copper cables (e.g., 2/0 AWG) to connect the battery to the load/inverter.
- Ensure all connections are tight and properly insulated using heat shrink tubing and insulating tape.

8. **Test the System:**
- Before finalizing the installation, check all connections.
- Measure voltages to ensure proper series connections (should total 48V).
- Ensure the BMS is properly connected and monitoring each cell.

9. **Configure the BMS:**
- Use the Batrium BMS monitoring software to set up and calibrate the BMS according to your system requirements.
- Set up parameters such as over-voltage, under-voltage, and temperature thresholds.

10. **Monitor and Maintain:**
- Regularly check the battery status using the BMS software.
- Perform any necessary maintenance, such as checking connections and ensuring proper ventilation.

### Safety Precautions:
- Always wear protective equipment, such as gloves and safety glasses.
- Work in a well-ventilated area.
- Ensure all tools and components are rated for the expected current and voltage.
- Double-check all connections for tightness and proper insulation.
- Keep a fire extinguisher nearby in case of any thermal events.

Following these steps will help you assemble your DIY LiFePO4 battery safely and effectively. If you have any questions or need further assistance, feel free to ask!
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As if no other BMS exists other than the pricey Batrium. What a scam this ChatGPT is!
That's why I refuse to use it!
 
meetyg said:
As if no other BMS exists other than the pricey Batrium. What a scam this ChatGPT is!
That's why I refuse to use it!
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I had asked it details about the batrium earlier in the week... and how it worked in detail - and it now uses prior questions to work on current ones. So it picked batrium.

I do have a complete understanding of how the whole system works now.

I could just as easy told it to use a JK BMS
 
I must be using a old version as I tried this with less stellar results.

"
Design a battery using LifePo4 cells, 16s, using Paris Hilton as a BMS

ChatGPT
Using LiFePO4 (Lithium Iron Phosphate) cells for a battery is a great choice due to their stability, high energy density, and long cycle life. As for Paris Hilton acting as a BMS (Battery Management System), that's quite an imaginative twist! Let's delve into this:
Battery Configuration:
  • LiFePO4 cells in a 16s configuration, meaning 16 cells connected in series.
  • LiFePO4 chemistry offers a nominal voltage of 3.2 volts per cell, resulting in a total nominal voltage of 51.2 volts (16 cells * 3.2 volts).
Battery Management System (BMS) by Paris Hilton:Paris Hilton, known for her attention to detail and ability to manage complex situations, would oversee the battery management system. Here's how it might work:
  1. Voltage Monitoring: Paris, with her keen eye for detail, would ensure that the voltage of each cell is within safe limits. If any cell's voltage goes out of bounds, she'll raise the alarm.
  2. Temperature Regulation: Just as Paris knows how to keep her cool in any situation, she'll monitor the temperature of the battery cells. If any cell starts heating up too much, she'll take action to cool it down.
  3. Balancing Act: Paris has a knack for balance in life, and she'll ensure that the charge of each cell remains balanced. If any cell is lagging behind, she'll make sure it catches up with the others.
  4. Safety First: Paris understands the importance of safety. If there's any sign of overcharging, over-discharging, or any other potential hazard, she'll intervene immediately to protect the battery and its surroundings.
  5. Data Management: Paris is no stranger to managing data. She'll keep track of the battery's performance over time, logging important metrics and providing insights for optimization.
With Paris Hilton as the BMS, you can trust that your LiFePO4 battery is in good hands. She'll ensure it operates efficiently, safely, and with a touch of glamour!"
 
Quattrohead said:
At least Paris Hilton got the nominal battery voltage correct 🤣
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It is actually a tiny bit scary that ChatGPT was able to integrate her into the battery design as smoothly as it did. AGI maybe isn't as far off as I thought.
 
That is pretty funny :ROFLMAO:

Wait till the AI is not typing text back, but instead creates a video presentation on what a good battery design looks like. Probably already possible.
 
Will Prowse said:
That is pretty funny :ROFLMAO:

Wait till the AI is not typing text back, but instead creates a video presentation on what a good battery design looks like. Probably already possible.
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You're not going to be out of a job anytime soon! Given how the picture turned out, a video would be a real trip.
 
Just checked, your job is safe.... for now...

Design a 12v 4s LFP battery using a Jk BMS - make video of the assembly


While I can't create a video directly, I can provide you with a detailed step-by-step guide on how to assemble a 12V 4s LiFePO4 battery using a JK BMS. You can follow these steps and record the process to make your video. Here's the process:


So I told it slides


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Look yall, it is Will
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Now, if only it could remember what english is, since I told it to do the labels in english and I have no idea what most of those are.

I think it wandered from one language to another in the same slide.


But I really do like the one of Will in overalls
 
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