I want this induction range. But not at THAT price!

[Madcodger]

Handsome battery-powered induction stove revolutionizes home cooking

Want an induction stove that plugs into a standard 120-V power socket? After a gradual rollout this spring, the Copper Charlie is now available across the US.

newatlas.com

I've already run the 6 ga wire for the stove in the guest house we're building, and I'm way too cheap to pay $6K for an induction range there. But dang this looks awesome.

 

[rpdom]

Nice! Charge it up from solar during the day, or cheap rate electricity overnight and use it on battery only for cooking in the evening.

My current cooker is gas, and also I have a single induction hob that plugs into a standard socket (UK 240V). I'm hoping my next cooker will be induction (without batteries). There is already a 240V 32A circuit in place for that.

 

[werepuppy]

$6000? Lol. Maybe they could built an MPPT into it too at least. 34kg battery would be around 5000WH fwiw. Maybe a bit marginal for this purpose.

 

[shavermcspud]

The math doesn't add up on that listing, a 34Kg LFP battery, assuming the higher end 180Wh per Kg for battery storage, that give 6.1kWh of storage, it shows power usage as 10kW and will cook 3+ meals for four people without any grid use. Assuming 100% efficiency and 100% DOD You get about 35 minutes of cook time from the battery, What 3+ decent meals can you cook in 35 minutes run time unless you're boiling water for noodles. Smacks of more marketing BS

 

[MisterB1959]

But who cooks on all four burners and the oven at the same time ... ?

I think the principle is sound, but I'm sure a large enough battery, inverter and a charger could be installed to operate a standard induction hob

 

[timselectric]

It's a rich redneck camping stove.

 

[shopman]

"And when you turn down the setting, there’s no hot coil or lingering gas flame to resist the adjustment." Whoever wrote that article must have had a defective gas stove. Lingering gas flame resisting adjustment. What a load of crap.

 

[Daferris]

How about you just spend the $1,000 that I see induction ranges selling for at the likes of Home Depot and with the $5,000 left over just get more batteries for the inverter?

 

[Madcodger]

How about you just spend the $1,000 that I see induction ranges selling for at the likes of Home Depot and with the $5,000 left over just get more batteries for the inverter?

We certainly did that last year for our main house, and we love it. I just thought that was a nifty little design for a stove, that uses much of the technology we discuss here on the forum every day. But for that kind of money? Nooooooo, thank you.

 

[Q-Dog]

Wouldn't work for us as we have a 5 burner 36" gas cooktop with separate oven.

Deja Vu

Thread 'Interesting concept: Battery powered induction range/oven.'

Dec 26, 2024

I recently got an ad for this product: https://copperhome.com/

It's a battery powered induction range that has a 5kwh battery and up to 10kw output. According to this article (https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/copper-charlie-induction-stove-review/), they state that the induction plates run on DC so no need for an inverter? I don't know too much about it and probably won't look into it more at the price is pretty insane. Their marketing is for small homes/apartments that only have a 120v outlet. Slowly charge the battery then run the high load off the...

• nebulight
• Replies: 16
• Forum: DIY Solar General Discussion

• 

 

[timselectric]

It's a one trick pony. So, unless you only want that one trick, it's a waste of money.
We have the same conversation about the solar direct mini splits.

 

[robbob2112]

But who cooks on all four burners and the oven at the same time ... ?

I think the principle is sound, but I'm sure a large enough battery, inverter and a charger could be installed to operate a standard induction hob

Anyone who is cooking Thanksgiving dinner for the family -- all burners and the oven going at once and wishing for another burner... Unless of course you decide to deep-fry the turkey, in which case you are still using the oven for stuffing and roles and other stuff...

 

[Q-Dog]

The Copper is cheaper than the lowest price Wolf Induction Range. No idea how it compares in quality. Being able to plug into a 120v circuit is a neat trick ... can't do that with the Wolf.

Wolf Legacy Model - Wolf 30" Professional Induction Range (IR30450/S/P)

Explore an innovative alternative to gas with Wolf&squot;s 30" Professional Induction Range, providing faster boil times than gas or electric.

www.subzero-wolf.com

 

[windsurfer]

It's a rich redneck camping stove.

Coming soon to a sprinter van near you...

 

[MisterB1959]

Anyone who is cooking Thanksgiving dinner for the family -- all burners and the oven going at once and wishing for another burner... Unless of course you decide to deep-fry the turkey, in which case you are still using the oven for stuffing and roles and other stuff...

if youre cooking everything in one go then i understand why you might use everything at once? but how often?

in the UK we do Christmas dinner with all the trimmings but make extensive use of the microwave for veggies instead of boiling away the taste., plus the boss often cooks the turkey the day before, along with other stuff that takes hours. The rest is done on the day ..... it actually allows her to enjoy Christmas Day with all the family,

 

[chill633]

But at a fundamental level, is this actually better? DC current doesn't induce a magnetic field unless you abuse it. To get DC induction you have to use an interrupter and switch the current on and off very fast to simulate the pulse needed to generate the magnetic field. How can that be more efficient and more reliable than just sticking a small inverter in the range?

And when would you truly want batteries in the range and not just have some central house batteries? Can the ones in the range be used to power other things when not powering the range? If not, they're just going to be sitting there most of the time, unused.

I looked at one of these when redoing my kitchen 2 years back and it didn't make sense then. Maybe I'm missing something? But we ended up going with a standard induction cooked up and a larger convection microwave. Foregoing the standard oven gave us more cabinet space in a smaller kitchen.

 

[Madcodger]

If it cost about the same as a regular range (unlikely to ever be the case) I would definitely consider one simply because of the 120v circuit. But otherwise? Nah. I just thought it would be a cool thing for us to chat about.

 

[outboard1196]

The article seems to imply it charges from 120v outlet and doesn't use 240v. It's targeting gas owners to switch to electric without wiring in a new circuit?

 

[Q-Dog]

The article seems to imply it charges from 120v outlet and doesn't use 240v. It's targeting gas owners to switch to electric without wiring in a new circuit?

It isn't an implication. That is exactly what it says.

 

[hogback]

The ONLY point of this thing is so you don't have to run a new circuit/wires for higher amperage/240V. As i see it anyways.

 

[green mountain boys]

The Copper is for someone who:

1. Does not already have a 240v outlet in their kitchen
2. Does not want to run a new 240v circuit for their new stove
3. Does not own aluminum cookware
4. Has an irrational fear of fire
5. Is not afraid to sink a bunch of money into new company with a possibly useless warranty
6. Has more money in their "new stove budget" than I do