It's a Victron 450/100. I was just joking that with the lugs you can get some bigger gauge wire on there. 450V or technically 8 times float voltage is a little crappy when compared to the 600V competition. Morningstar SureSine was one of the hot contenders until I went down the Midnite Rosie path.
be careful, next @sunshine_eggo @sunshine_eggo @sunshine_eggo Oh shit I am so sorry i said it three times in a row, now Papa Smurf will appear!He thinks I should purchase a smurf colored charge controller. I already told him it isn't color coordinated with my setup.
Oh I thought you had come around to the winning side!
| Model | TS-MPPT-60-600V-48 | TS-MPPT-60-600V-48-DB |
|---|---|---|
| *Input power can exceed Nominal Operating Power. Controller will limit and provide its rated continuous maximum output current into batteries. | ||
| Charge Rating | 60 amps | 60 amps |
| Max. PV Open Circuit Voltage (Voc) | 600 volts | 600 volts |
| Nominal Battery Voltage | 48V, custom programmable to 24V, 36V, and 60V | 48V, custom programmable to 24V, 36V, and 60V |
| Nominal max. Operating Power* – 48 volt battery | 3200W | 3200W |
| Peak efficiency | 97.9% | 97.9% |
| Battery Voltage Range | 16-72V | 16-72V |
| PV Input Operating Voltage Range | 100V to Voc = 525V | 100V to Voc = 525V |
| Self-Consumption | 1.75 – 2.50W | 1.75 – 2.50W |
| Transient Surge Protection | 4500 Watts/port | 4500 Watts/port |
| Voltage Accuracy | <=0.1% +/- 100mV | <=0.1% +/- 100mV |
| Operating Temperature Range | -40 C to +45C | -40 C to +45C |
| Warranty | 5 Years | 5 Years |
| CE and RoHS compliant | Yes | Yes |
| IEC 62109 | Yes | Yes |
| ETL Listed [UL-1741 and Canadian CSA C22.2 No.107.1.01] | Yes | Yes |
| FCC Class B Part 15 Compliant | Yes | Yes |
| Manufactured in a Certified ISO 9001 Facility | Yes | Yes |
Next one for me will be either a Hawkes bay 120A or Barcelona 200A.Oh I thought you had come around to the winning side!
Model TS-MPPT-60-600V-48 TS-MPPT-60-600V-48-DB *Input power can exceed Nominal Operating Power. Controller will limit and provide its rated continuous maximum output current into batteries. Charge Rating 60 amps 60 amps Max. PV Open Circuit Voltage (Voc) 600 volts 600 volts Nominal Battery Voltage 48V, custom programmable
to 24V, 36V, and 60V48V, custom programmable
to 24V, 36V, and 60VNominal max. Operating Power* – 48 volt battery 3200W 3200W Peak efficiency 97.9% 97.9% Battery Voltage Range 16-72V 16-72V PV Input Operating Voltage Range 100V to Voc = 525V 100V to Voc = 525V Self-Consumption 1.75 – 2.50W 1.75 – 2.50W Transient Surge Protection 4500 Watts/port 4500 Watts/port Voltage Accuracy <=0.1% +/- 100mV <=0.1% +/- 100mV Operating Temperature Range -40 C to +45C -40 C to +45C Warranty 5 Years 5 Years CE and RoHS compliant Yes Yes IEC 62109 Yes Yes ETL Listed [UL-1741 and Canadian CSA C22.2 No.107.1.01] Yes Yes FCC Class B Part 15 Compliant Yes Yes Manufactured in a Certified ISO 9001 Facility Yes Yes
True could use something like an Anderson SB50 for the PV.
How ya doing Bro? just having some fun! you know me not serious about anything other than dinner
thats kind of how I look at it. mind you I have morningstars and i understand their price point does not agree with a lot of folks here on the forum. As such I have no dog in the fight, but from the outside looking in, if that's the only issue and they are relatively good to go otherwise, (for the future buyers) I would simply buy a new one and immediately remove that block and replace it with any of several better alternatives. I would go as far to say that if I could get my own crimper in there i would delete it completely and just have a terminal that I riveted or bolted to the outside of the unit in its place.
you guys have to reason that out. Or not. Just by-pass it... done. HahahaTotally get your point. And so far nobody knows why, although as someone who has worked on failure modes post mortem I surmise it could be something as simple as tolerance stacking. That one may simply have a better terminal block, for whatever reason. I know, it is a plate of copper with a set screw to hold the wire in place. But going back to my comment about the ferrule, the plate is ridged and the ferrule is ridged. At that point, slight difference in wire placement in the connector could make the difference between a bad (and hot) connection and a good (and cool) connection. Or as pointed out by others, given the burned point, maybe this one fried because the wire strands got pinched/stressed/broken when the ferrule was crimped on it and that's why it burned up, while the other did not. The lower one could have burned up twice because of two different failure modes, I've seen that before too in other stuff. You need a higher sample than 2 pieces of failed parts to really get a trend of what's going on, otherwise you only have two one-offs that don't tell you anything except those two units had two different problems.Most victron if you burn pv connectors up they say no warranty blame you.
Right in the victron manuals for most of them.
The gorillia in the room me still says there was no resolution as to why lower inverter position burned up 2x old and replacement.
The top EG4 mppt was operating no problem.
I think its a heat over time thing between the upper and lower. whatever is feeding the bottom is hotter longer, long enough that it finally dies. like I said in an earlier post, it could be something as simple as one set of panels running cooler due to but not limited to airflow over the panels and outputting more energy as a result. or it could be one of the controllers voltage sensor is slightly off compared to the others so its throttling back earlier. hence try moving the top controller into the bottom slot and see if it does the same. that would indicate a PV field issue or wiring issue between the panels and the controller.Most victron if you burn pv connectors up they say no warranty blame you.
Right in the victron manuals for most of them.
The gorillia in the room me still says there was no resolution as to why lower inverter position burned up 2x old and replacement.
The top EG4 mppt was operating no problem.
This cracked me up
hmmmm....
What’s the voltage rating of those? I thought it was much lower, more suited for battery voltages than PV voltages.
I agree, 2 failures is not a large enough sample size.
Different system, the SRNE are for my shop solar system.Sometimes the right amount of money can solve things.... the old basic statement - saying, "spend big cry once."
It only hurts when a person does that and still has problems or the bar of spending is increased x amount more afterwords.....
My question when OP brings his new dual SRNE 10k ASP aio inverters online will the EG4 mppt be retired? He will have a total of 4 mppt built in with the dual SRNE 10k ASP. If the pv connector on the SRNE catch on fire with that string ...... what then? By pass them too?
