They want to charge you for what you own: solar panels and batteries regardless if you sell back or not.
Just FWIW an example of a coop bill. I have found it's a common (and strange) practice for them to not state $/kwh, but it is $0.1215/kwh. Base charge goes to $35/mo 1/1/25 after they found out their buddies were all getting away with that...
ohhh... there be worse systems there Rednecktk! Like the ones here in Japan.... its broken down to how many amps you can (not actually) take. so 30 amp service is like xxxx yen per month then there are tier breaks at 40, 50 , 60, 80, 100, and 120. not sure if there is anything higher as I ran like a scalded dog when I got the monthly bill for the 120 amp service and backed it down to 80.(presolar) it was about 50 USD per month even if I was not there and not using a single watt... and to tie a solar system in, you can only put a system in that matches your consumption tier , so if like me you have 8k of panels on the roof, you need to have service that can handle that much export at 100 volts in other words an 80 amp service even if you do not consume that much. so we get wanged with a 30 USD at todays spot rate even though the most I could hope to pull is about 50 amps with everything running at the same time. if I was not planning on renting the hosue when i retire, i would disconnnect and just run off batteries like my cabin.... but once i rent it it needs to have grid tie.
No.
It's a trend everywhere. We have $25 minimum bill if you use too little kWh. This is due to behind the meter solar.
This seems fair. You get backup power to slowly charge your batteries and PoCo gets a guarantee that you will never need a lot of amps so they don't have to maintain reserve capacity for you.
under "pure socialism" you don't own a business, or property. the state owns everything, and you are just a member of the state.
yes but you are limited to how many you can produce and the numbers never really work in your favor. battery backup just becasme a thing here in the last 5 years, a friend just bought a full system for his new construction house. it was about 30k for a 6kw system with 18kw backup battery and the japanese version of solar assistant (not the same but similar).
Actually your 100% wrong. I have 3 homes.
Minnesota added a "MN Road Improvement" tax when you order something online precisely for this.
That's because there are plenty of other customers to pick up the tab. Run a scenario where everyone only pays $15.
Doesn't work that way. You can't change the price per gallon for gas at the gas station just because they think I might not come back often enough to buy more gas. You can raise the cost of gas for everyone but not just for a few people based on they might not shop there enough.
You mean the odometer based roadway usage tax on EV's?
Would you please STOP giving them IDEAS!!
I'm having a hard time reading your posts. Are you cheerleading for the power companies?
it was more like they have the base meter fee. we (I) don't want to give them any more. They should tax me on my personal property that I own (solar/batteries) just what I use and the base fee that pays to maintain grid.
no gawd no...you theink the power companies are screwed? have you ever in your entire life seen the government run something that actually worked even semi somewhat properly? Think DMV, think the VA hospitals, look at congress and the senate! hell no...
I can name private companies I've had to deal with that are just as awful. The only real difference is that in some rare cases, I have a choice of whether I deal with the private companies.. not much of one, but sometimes there is a competitor that is slightly less awful. With something like the DMV, obviously there is no choice, and you have to suck it up.
