My Base Electric Rate is Increasing by 31.5% Next Month

[superchachi]

And so it begins...

 

[Balrog006]

Your increased base rate is still 50% of mine and much less than most…

 

[glandpuck]

Laughing. Almost $1 per kWh in San Diego now from 4-9 PM.

 

[superchachi]

Your increased base rate is still 50% of mine and much less than most…

Yes, and it is also still going up over 30%

Laughing. Almost $1 per kWh in San Diego now from 4-9 PM.

I lived in SD for 15 years. I was running 5 servers out of my house when SDG&E thought it would be cool to take out their frustrations on the customer base and instituted rolling blackouts. Then I got on my cruiser and hit Lahiana's...all was good.

 

[1201]

Laughing. Almost $1 per kWh in San Diego now from 4-9 PM.

How is everyone there not on batteries. The payback should be quick!

 

[BlueMarblePA]

Interesting. I pay $0.18 per kwh here in PA. You are paying $0.058 per kwh in Texas, but I am not sure if this includes distribution costs as well. We have separate generation and distribution costs.

 

[glandpuck]

Okay, many, many people only have grid tied inverters, not hybrid inverters or AC coupled systems. Many are still paying for their systems and simply do not have the funds to spend. Also, in my case, my original solar installer in 2015 now out of business. I have to find a new company and all any of these companies want to do is rush in and sell you a Tesla power wall or Panasonic and leave in a day. they don't want to consult on proper capacities and best hardware practices. People are weary too when the Public Utilities Commission keeps changing the rules of the game. payback here on NEM 3.0 close to 12 years now.

 

[1201]

Yes, and it is also still going up over 30%

30% of nothing, is nothing.

That power cost is so low I don't know if it's even worth getting solar

 

[glandpuck]

Wait till your electric bills contain a "PCIA" charge on them. That is the latest California consumer scam.

 

[superchachi]

Interesting. I pay $0.18 per kwh here in PA. You are paying $0.058 per kwh in Texas, but I am not sure if this includes distribution costs as well. We have separate generation and distribution costs.

That is just the base rate...but, I think we end up around 10.3 cents per.

Let's all be honest...I don't think we are doing this for the investment.

The last few years the power has gone out for extended periods...this year's ice storm knocked out our power for 5 days. It is a big premium to be able to deal with that on our own, but it sounds like a fun project and better than the suicide cord I built to back feed one of our generators.

 

[1201]

That is just the base rate...but, I think we end up around 10.3 cents per.

Let's all be honest...I don't think we are doing this for the investment.

The last few years the power has gone out for extended periods...this year's ice storm knocked out our power for 5 days. It is a big premium to be able to deal with that on our own, but it sounds like a fun project and better than the suicide cord I built to back feed one of our generators.

I am doing it for the investment.

But, I also factored in the avoided cost of a large generator when power goes out in February and it's 3.6 degrees. I'm on a well so if I lose power I also lose water.

I factored in the cost of an emergency wood stove.


So all in all ,solar works out- I think ?

 

[Tmoney2007]

Wait till your electric bills contain a "PCIA" charge on them. That is the latest California consumer scam.

We already have "pay the generator operators to be able to actually generate energy when its cold" and the "give people like Jerry Jones money" charges... Thanks.

 

[cs1234]

But, I also factored in the avoided cost of a large generator when power goes out in February and it's 3.6 degrees. I'm on a well so if I lose power I also lose water.
?

I'm on city water and still lost water when I lost power during the freeze a few years back. It seems they lost power to the water plant and then ran out of fuel for their generators or some such or couldn't keep them going in the cold.

 

[1201]

I'm on city water and still lost water when I lost power during the freeze a few years back. It seems they lost power to the water plant and then ran out of fuel for their generators or some such or couldn't keep them going in the cold.

I had family who didn't have water for over a week during the great freeze of 21. I always wondered why. Thanks for the explanation

 

[cs1234]

I had family who didn't have water for over a week during the great freeze of 21. I always wondered why. Thanks for the explanation

Is that you brother? I had no power or water for a week. It was a delight. I lucked out though, my pipes didn't burst.

 

[SamDeleted]

Makes solar a lot more economical

 

[Swamplizard]

Time to turn that back porch lanai into a solar array?

 

[cs1234]

Notice my join date, I only found this place because of the freeze here in Texas. Thanks Texas! I lurked for a while, then couldn't resist joining in the fun.

 

[superchachi]

Is that you brother? I had no power or water for a week. It was a delight. I lucked out though, my pipes didn't burst.

My well pressure pump froze and cracked. Ordered a new one the next day. It sat in a ups trailer for almost three weeks before it made it here. Once it did, I had it in place in about five minutes. That’s when my daughter let me know that there was a “waterfall on the back of the house”…the on demand hot water heater suffered a catastrophic freeze event as well. We were boiling snow to fill the toilets on a propane burner outside until we were able to use 4wd to get to my neighbors house to fill up giant white igloo coolers with his well water.

Fortunately, we had plenty of bottled water and food on hand.

Good times!

 

[Aridom82]

Laughing. Almost $1 per kWh in San Diego now from 4-9 PM.

And i though here in Italy it was bad enough... geeze

 

[cs1234]

My well pressure pump froze and cracked. Ordered a new one the next day. It sat in a ups trailer for almost three weeks before it made it here. Once it did, I had it in place in about five minutes. That’s when my daughter let me know that there was a “waterfall on the back of the house”…the on demand hot water heater suffered a catastrophic freeze event as well. We were boiling snow to fill the toilets on a propane burner outside until we were able to use 4wd to get to my neighbors house to fill up giant white igloo coolers with his well water.

Fortunately, we had plenty of bottled water and food on hand.

Good times!

That sucks! Only thing I lost / or had damaged, aside from my sanity was all my fridge/freezer food.

I didn't have any propane to heat water. I was just bringing snow inside in buckets and putting it in my bathtubs to let it melt for toilet water. I was also using candles to try to heat up water for instant coffee and such to stave off caffeine headaches. Fortunately, we keep/kept lots of drinking water on hand.

Needless to say, I was very unprepared for something like that. I'm a little better prepared now. I have multiple propane tanks on hand and a propane/gasoline generator.. many lifepo4 batteries and chargers, a standalone 12v victron inverter that I've verified can run my fridges/freezers and an electric hotplate, a small bluetti that can run my freezer. I set up my Prius so it can run as a generator to recharge all my batteries / run the Victron directly if need be.

I still don't have a whole house solar powered automatic backup system in place, but at least I can boil water, heat up a can of soup, run an electric blanket.. etc..

Baby steps to preparedness, but I'm getting there.

Side note, just something wild. During the freeze, while I was gathering up snow in buckets outside.. the neighborhood rabbits (which usually run on sight) would come right up next to me and eat the grass that was unearthed from the snow scooping. They lost all sense of fear out of desperation for food.

 

[timselectric]

The investment is my only reason.
I'm prepaying (at a great discount) for all of my future electricity.

 

[a619]

PEC says that they had to increase electricity import rates because cost of purchasing electricity has increased. At the same time, they haven't changed the amount they pay you to buy your excess PV generation.

 

[Aridom82]

PEC says that they had to increase electricity import rates because cost of purchasing electricity has increased. At the same time, they haven't changed the amount they pay you to buy your excess PV generation.

This is why i am off grid. I would rather have my fridge fight my oven than give power for free to these thiefs.

 

[superchachi]

PEC says that they had to increase electricity import rates because cost of purchasing electricity has increased. At the same time, they haven't changed the amount they pay you to buy your excess PV generation.

The first part was really why I posted this. If the cost of electricity is causing a 30% increase in the cost of base generation, then I would think that would be an indication of what others may be seeing soon as well.

On the investment side, I see it as more of a hedge or insurance...which I know many see as an investment. Curious what people think the cost of electricity is going to get to in the next 3 to 5 years and beyond. If this EV thing really happens, the cost of electricity should increase dramatically.