New Growatt hybrid inverter SPH10000TL- HU-US split phase

[kscessnadriver]

I went with the Ruixu server rack style, they’re well reviewed, and have a rack system you can get to stack them without being in a conventional server rack system. This style https://www.ruixubattery.com/produc...ion-method-bracket-rack-flexibility-stackable

 

[diWhy]

I'll look at those.

 

[kscessnadriver]

Has anyone heard of a Pace brand, P16S200A-0001-20A? It's a 16kWh 300ah battery.
It supposedly should work with this Growatt but may have some sort of closed loop problem with the Growatt?

Never heard of it, at least for me. I can tell you without a doubt that the Ruixu stuff is working great.

 

[diWhy]

Never heard of it, at least for me. I can tell you without a doubt that the Ruixu stuff is working great.

This is the communications/BMS that the battery has which I was hoping to find out if it would work with this inverter.

https://en.hithium.com/bocupload/2024/10/23/1729666665893n5cb7.pdf

48V 200A Smart BMS for Solar Energy Storage Systems – 16S Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery Management System

The 48V 200A Smart BMS for Solar Energy Storage Systems is designed for efficient battery management in lithium-ion and LiFePO4 systems. With CAN and RS485 communication, it ensures safe operation, real-time monitoring, and optimal energy storage for your solar power solutions.

szxhbattery.com

Turns out, this is not UL rated anyhow so I'm not touching it.

 

[diWhy]

I went with the Ruixu server rack style, they’re well reviewed, and have a rack system you can get to stack them without being in a conventional server rack system. This style https://www.ruixubattery.com/produc...ion-method-bracket-rack-flexibility-stackable

Maybe I'm not seeing it but are these UL9540 rated?
Also, is there a list somewhere for batteries that are compatible with this inverter?
I'm wanting to be around 10kWh to 16kWh. Willing to start with 5kWh if I can't find anything I can afford right now.
My setup is indoor, average temp 60 degrees.

Update: I see it now, UL9540 rated indeed.

 

[diWhy]

These batteries appear to be compatible with this inverter.

 

[kscessnadriver]

These batteries appear to be compatible with this inverter.
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There’s a list in the Growatt manual too, of batteries they’ve found compatible.

 

[diWhy]

There’s a list in the Growatt manual too, of batteries they’ve found compatible.

Maybe there is another manual because I don't have that in mine. My manual is this.

 

[1201]

 

[diWhy]

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Yup, on the very last page . That would be an older list though would it not. I think support told me they have added ore batteries to the list.

 

[diWhy]

It's kinda hard to decide on a battery really. They are all around the same price, capacity.

 

[1201]

Yup, on the very last page . That would be an older list though would it not. I think support told me they have added ore batteries to the list.

Where did you pull your list from?

 

[1201]

It's kinda hard to decide on a battery really. They are all around the same price, capacity.

What's hard about it?

 

[kscessnadriver]

Yup, on the very last page . That would be an older list though would it not. I think support told me they have added ore batteries to the list.

If you go on the Growatt website for this inverter, they have a more recent document, which includes EG4 batteries

 

[diWhy]

>What's hard about it?
Just lots of options which are all around the same price/capacity.
I put my list together over time from looking on the net, bits and pieces here and there.

>go on the Growatt website
I had not looked there for a while but see those now. Thanks.

 

[kscessnadriver]

>What's hard about it?
Just lots of options which are all around the same price/capacity.
I put my list together over time from looking on the net, bits and pieces here and there.

>go on the Growatt website
I had not looked there for a while but see those now. Thanks.

At the end of the day, a LiFePo4 battery is a LiFePo4 battery. They’re all built more or less the same, the only real differences are form factors and advertised depth of discharge amounts

 

[diWhy]

Self2solar recommended two batteries.

Pytes E-Box-48100R 5.12kWh 51.2V LFP Battery | 10 Years Warranty | UL 9540 certificated with Sol-Ark and CEC Listed

E-BOX series, the new generation LFP battery for home energy storage systems. It provides a safe,well-designed, and high-performance standard LFP battery pack. The battery pack is compact, easy to install, free of maintenance, and can be installed in parallel in the energy storage system to...

www.self2solar.com

Growatt ALP 5.0L-E2-US LV 48V 5.0kWh Stackable Battery Module | 5kWh to 320kWh flexible option | IP66 indoor or outdoor | Certified UL9540 with Growatt SPH 10K inverter | UL1973 UL9540A | 10-Year Warranty

Growatt’s new ALP LV battery covers a wide range of capacities, offering scalability up to 40.0kWh per Control Box, and whole system up to 160kWh. The APL battery is compatible with Growatt SPH 10000TL-HU-US 48V 10.0kW Split-Phase Hybrid inverter and SPF series Off-grid inverters, such as...

www.self2solar.com

I'm open to the Ruixu and what recommendations would you have for the EG4. Again, 5kWh/100ah min.

 

[kscessnadriver]

Self2solar recommended two batteries.

Pytes E-Box-48100R 5.12kWh 51.2V LFP Battery | 10 Years Warranty | UL 9540 certificated with Sol-Ark and CEC Listed

E-BOX series, the new generation LFP battery for home energy storage systems. It provides a safe,well-designed, and high-performance standard LFP battery pack. The battery pack is compact, easy to install, free of maintenance, and can be installed in parallel in the energy storage system to...

www.self2solar.com

Growatt ALP 5.0L-E2-US LV 48V 5.0kWh Stackable Battery Module | 5kWh to 320kWh flexible option | IP66 indoor or outdoor | Certified UL9540 with Growatt SPH 10K inverter | UL1973 UL9540A | 10-Year Warranty

Growatt’s new ALP LV battery covers a wide range of capacities, offering scalability up to 40.0kWh per Control Box, and whole system up to 160kWh. The APL battery is compatible with Growatt SPH 10000TL-HU-US 48V 10.0kW Split-Phase Hybrid inverter and SPF series Off-grid inverters, such as...

www.self2solar.com

I'm open to the Ruixu and what recommendations would you have for the EG4. Again, 5kWh/100ah min.

Honestly, it would be hard to go wrong with the Pytes option you listed, the Ruixu option, or even the Growatt ALP (which I have zero experience with). Are you needing a heated battery, or no?

 

[diWhy]

I'm leaning toward the Growatt and RUiXU with Pytes being the last choice.
I don't need heated as the batteries will be indoor.

 

[diWhy]

The RUiXU batteries don't have UL9540, it's pending and it's needed in Arizona as far as I can tell.

 

[kscessnadriver]

The RUiXU batteries don't have UL9540, it's pending and it's needed in Arizona as far as I can tell.

Ah, well then I'm out of ideas, we don't deal with UL9540 here. Heck, we're still on NEC2008, so it's a bit of an odd duck.

 

[agtcovert]

Ah, well then I'm out of ideas, we don't deal with UL9540 here. Heck, we're still on NEC2008, so it's a bit of an odd duck.

I wish we'd move ahead on the code at this point. The rest of the government overreach can stay on the west coast.

 

[mciholas]

Heck, we're still on NEC2008, so it's a bit of an odd duck.

There's a committee moving to update the code:

Indiana Electrical Code Update Committee

www.in.gov

So they benefits of 2008 code may soon end, which sadly means RSD and all that crap will become code in Indiana.

Mike C.

 

[diWhy]

Are any others in this thread using RUiXU batteries or just one person?

 

[1201]

There's a committee moving to update the code:

Indiana Electrical Code Update Committee

www.in.gov

So they benefits of 2008 code may soon end, which sadly means RSD and all that crap will become code in Indiana.

Mike C.

Does the battery system have to be included in the interconnection application?


What happens if one permits for grid tie then adds batteries later?