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Panel shows voltage on its own but 0 in series.

Unless (+) and (-) are reversed for one panel, as was proposed earlier.
With B and C connected together, remove all junction box covers. Check for continuity between B and C, and check all voltages (un sunlight)
 
That's correct but on both ends meaning, either positive or negative.
As soon as I connect another panel on either side, there is no more connectivity in the two panel string.
It's floating, zero, nothing :).

It just plain made no sense when I was wiring things up but that's what it is.
As I said, I'll check it again even though I've checked it multiple times.
 
Unless (+) and (-) are reversed for one panel, as was proposed earlier.
With B and C connected together, remove all junction box covers. Check for continuity between B and C, and check all voltages (un sunlight)
Has he checked to see if the + and - reads correctly from the cable ends?
 
After 75 posts It must've been brought up but why don't you cut off the MC-4's and crimp on new ones?
I'm going to try that but to me, it's a moot point. The fact that I can get voltage from the panel alone and even with extension cables connected means there's nothing wrong with the connectors. But, it's worth a try so I'll do that when I get out there again.

I definitely want to update this post once this is solved, if it is because it might help someone at some point as a seemingly rare, if ever, occurrence.
 
That's correct but on both ends meaning, either positive or negative.
As soon as I connect another panel on either side, there is no more connectivity in the two panel string.
It's floating, zero, nothing :).

It just plain made no sense when I was wiring things up but that's what it is.
As I said, I'll check it again even though I've checked it multiple times.
Did you make sure the male end from the panel is positive and the female connector is negative?

That could TOTALLY explain the problem your having if they are reversed.
 
Has he checked to see if the + and - reads correctly from the cable ends?
Yes, he has :). But he'll do it again because there's nothing wrong with checking more than 3, 4, 5, or more times when it comes to something that doesn't make sense.
 
I'm going to try that but to me, it's a moot point. The fact that I can get voltage from the panel alone and even with extension cables connected means there's nothing wrong with the connectors. But, it's worth a try so I'll do that when I get out there again.

I definitely want to update this post once this is solved, if it is because it might help someone at some point as a seemingly rare, if ever, occurrence.
If the connectors are reversed you would need to crimp on new ends anyway.
 
Did you make sure the male end from the panel is positive and the female connector is negative?

That could TOTALLY explain the problem your having if they are reversed.
I can't recall specifically now but I'll double check that too.
Female looking connectors looking like males and vise versa is an interesting thing they came up with :).
 
The other way that could be unseen is if the connector is sliding back when it is inserted into the other panels - i.e. your patch cables may have different size slightly metal bits inside so they don't mate properly with similar size.

Do you have a DC clamp meter? I wonder what the result would be if you just plugged the panel connectors together and put a clamp meter across it in full sun. It should be Isc or close, but if the runs on the front have issues or it can't mate with itself you would get a lot less.
 
The other way that could be unseen is if the connector is sliding back when it is inserted into the other panels - i.e. your patch cables may have different size slightly metal bits inside so they don't mate properly with similar size.

Do you have a DC clamp meter? I wonder what the result would be if you just plugged the panel connectors together and put a clamp meter across it in full sun. It should be Isc or close, but if the runs on the front have issues or it can't mate with itself you would get a lot less.
Yes, I took that into consideration also but all of the connectors for the extensions are the same.
I've been meaning to order a DC clamp meter but don't have one at the moment.
 
I can't recall specifically now but I'll double check that too.
Female looking connectors looking like males and vise versa is an interesting thing they came up with :).
Another thing I noticed on all of my panels is that the male connector which is the positive lead has a red oring on it which I took as meaning positive too.
 
Yes, I took that into consideration also but all of the connectors for the extensions are the same.
I've been meaning to order a DC clamp meter but don't have one at the moment.

I just added a new one under tool the answer thread in my sig line - it is very cheap import off amazon so I can't promise accuracy - think cheaper than harbor freight. but I expect it would give some indication
 
Another thing I noticed on all of my panels is that the male connector which is the positive lead has a red oring on it which I took as meaning positive too.
Yes, I know about the O rings but never noticed if they are different colors. I'm sure some fall for that unfortunately.
 
I just added a new one under tool the answer thread in my sig line - it is very cheap import off amazon so I can't promise accuracy - think cheaper than harbor freight. but I expect it would give some indication
This is the one I plan on getting. Just have to try to put some things on hold as I've been spending like a crazy man lately.
 
Based on my understanding of what the OP has said, this is what is happening:
panels 0v.jpg
Panel 0 is the one in question. But I think there is still some information that I don't know about.
Maybe post pictures of the setup and exactly where the voltages are being measured.
 
Still likely to be reverse polarity or exceeding max volts on controller.
 
Yes, I know about the O rings but never noticed if they are different colors. I'm sure some fall for that unfortunately.

I think O-ring color is random. I checked inside an the cable rubber for both ends matched the o-ring color.

Left to right - Staubli, Temco, BN (came with my panels to use on the wires as the mate to what was already present)

MC4 connectors.jpg
 
Hi, sorry, was not sure what else to add.

Yes, I'm only measuring open voltage at the moment, no load since I'm just setting up the strings right now.
When I bypass it in my string, the string is as it should be. As soon as I connect this panel to another in series, I get zero voltage across the two connectors, -/+/

Still likely to be reverse polarity or exceeding max volts on controller.
But the OP said there is no load.
Also he did not clarify which two connectors he is measuring from.
That is why he should show exactly his setup and where he is measuring.
 
Based on my understanding of what the OP has said, this is what is happening:
View attachment 235302
Panel 0 is the one in question. But I think there is still some information that I don't know about.
Maybe post pictures of the setup and exactly where the voltages are being measured.
Close, the weird panel is #2 in your image. There are 7 total per string. At the moment, that panel is bypassed.
 
Close, the weird panel is #2 in your image. There are 7 total per string. At the moment, that panel is bypassed.
So total VOC reading is 180vdc? And the panel string has no load?

"per string" - how many strings?
 
Unless (+) and (-) are reversed for one panel, as was proposed earlier.
That could TOTALLY explain the problem your having if they are reversed.
🙅‍♀️... from my diagram in post #75 the voltage of AB should remain the same, whatever is connected to it, if no current is flowing.

Also he did not clarify which two connectors he is measuring from.
That is why he should show exactly his setup and where he is measuring.
this ^^^.

The explanations don't match basic galvanic principles.

This is driving me nuts...

From my diagram in post #75, measure AB, then CD, then connect B to C and measure AB, then CD, then AD with attention to polarity.

Then come back and tell us what each of those 5 readings are.
 

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