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PowMr 5k AIO Sunsmart SP5k (and SP10K) N to G bonding

Mav986

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Just as an FYI, the new SP5K and SP10K now appear to have a programmable N/G function...


I have an older version of the SP5K running in parallel with an Eco Worthy 5k for a while now.
The PoWMr is set to be the master Inverter and handles the L1 leg and the Eco Worthy handles the L2 leg.
This is an off-grid setup where the is nothing connected to utility and the AIOs feed a 100A load panel with N/G bonded.
Neither the PoWMr nor the Eco Worthy AIOs have a programmable N/G realy function as far as I can tell.

However, I just finished installing a brand new PoWMr SP5K parallel unit at another location (running as a stand alone unit handling 120V) with utility backup and have discovered that they have a setting #63 that supposedly handles the N/G bonding "automatically" and can be disabled. The PoWMr and Eco Worthy website manuals do not show this, but the new manual that came with the new AIO does show it. On this new install, I did enable settings #63 and it works fine but I don't undestand exactly what it does...

Now this is not a surprise for me as I had been investigating the Sunsmart SP10K specs to see how they handle the N/G bonding and this is the response I got from PoWMr:

"Shouldn't the US split phase be an N-PE connection from what I understand? Is your local power required to split N-PE? Our inverter is set to automatically switch N-PE in the 63 settings, but this too only changes the N-PE separation and connection of the utility power. Please change it to ENA first, I don't know if this with work for you, you can try to see if it meets your requirements."

What say you?
 
Since your AIO only runs in inverter mode and you have a NG bond at your Next panel you would disable the automatic NG switching in setting #63.

What it does when enabled (automatic) is to disconnect NG internal bond when operating in AC bypass mode. This is because most homes already have a NG bond and are the AC input to the AIO. So when instead powering AC out from the inverter a relay will connect that internal bond.
 
Since your AIO only runs in inverter mode and you have a NG bond at your Next panel you would disable the automatic NG switching in setting #63.

What it does when enabled (automatic) is to disconnect NG internal bond when operating in AC bypass mode. This is because most homes already have a NG bond and are the AC input to the AIO. So when instead powering AC out from the inverter a relay will connect that internal bond.
OK so it (setting #63) only affects utility bypass mode. What is the status of the NG then in Inverter mode? I assume NG should be isolated correct?
 
OK so it (setting #63) only affects utility bypass mode. What is the status of the NG then in Inverter mode? I assume NG should be isolated correct?
Reading the description #63 has to be set in "ENA" to disable the auto switching (confusing ain't it?) The status would then be no NG bond during either operation.
 
The description for setting #63 looks pretty clear to me in the most recent documentation for the POW-Sunsmart 10KP. Perhaps it was updated?
PowMr setting 63.jpg
 
The description for setting #63 looks pretty clear to me in the most recent documentation for the POW-Sunsmart 10KP. Perhaps it was updated?
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I just received the RUiXU 10k version of the SRNE inverter and during setup I was not able to change setting 63 from DIS to ENA. I am powering an unbonded subpanel for loads and the subpanel is getting its bonding of G-N from the main panel. For my configuration I believe I need to have the auto G-N bonding enabled for when it is in inverter mode. Any clues why I would not be able to change that setting to ENA?
 
I just received the RUiXU 10k version of the SRNE inverter and during setup I was not able to change setting 63 from DIS to ENA. I am powering an unbonded subpanel for loads and the subpanel is getting its bonding of G-N from the main panel. For my configuration I believe I need to have the auto G-N bonding enabled for when it is in inverter mode. Any clues why I would not be able to change that setting to ENA?
Probably have to be in standby mode. The AIO is in this mode just after turning on the switch but before the inverter fully starts and after the inverter power switch is turned off but not display off. You will see a image on the display indicating standby at which time you need to enter the settings mode.
 
Probably have to be in standby mode. The AIO is in this mode just after turning on the switch but before the inverter fully starts and after the inverter power switch is turned off but not display off. You will see an image on the display indicating standby at which time you need to enter the settings mode.
That was the answer - I powered everything off and before it fully powered down I was able to change setting 63. Thank you very much!!
 

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