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Schneider XW Pro - End of Sale???

niktak11 said:
$1200 for these is a great price. The other system components need to come down a lot though to make a full Schneider system price competitive (especially the MPPT controllers). You need 8ish 100A Schneider MPPTs to match the usable solar input of 2x flexboss21. And they cost roughly the same as the 2x
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48000 watts of solar is alot of juice
 
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Schneider Electric 865-6848-21 Conext XW Pro 120/240V

Shop now for Schneider Electric 865-6848-21 Conext XW Pro Solar Hybrid Inverter/Charger 120/240VAC 6.8kW with UL1741SA, RNW865684821.
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When I put in my shipping information, it said free UPS. I don’t know if this is true for others, but that would make it a good price with $0 shipping costs.
 

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That is a great deal if shipping is included. I just used Stellavolta for my breakers for the PDP as they had the best deal with shipping included.
 
I watched the entire webinar on the Helios battery. I downloaded and reviewed all of the sales sheets, specs, installaiion manual and warranty.

What I found lacking was the following:

One battery plus a wirebox and a Sol-Ark 15k stacked adds to over 79 inches. Add any extra height if you need to be above ground level for snow, water, etc and you have a very tall combo stack.

These batteries take up a lot of wall space with the space needed between them.

The warranty for this battery makes them a very risky purchase.

The warranty is governed under the laws of I believe British Columbia, Canada, not USA. There is no USA warranty.

In order to make a warranty claim, logs of the battery use must be furnished to the company.

The battery is only warranted for 10 years, but the limitations are to 60% of original power. This means the battery is not defective if it looses 40% of it's capacity in just 10 years. To put it another way, if you buy 10 batteries, after 10 years, only 6 will be working. That's a big upfront expense.
Lastly, unless I did my math wrong, the warranty throughput averages to 26 kWh charge/discharge per battery per day over 10 years. Go past this and no warranty. So if you charge to 100% and run down to 19%, you can do this one time per day to maintain warranty.

What I don't like is that the webinar said you could lay batteries flat in a stack, but the heaters are at the bottom of the case and this makes no sense if in a stack and the installation manual makes no provision for this. Also, the batteries are left and right sided. If the front and back were the same so you could turn them in either direction to put inverters in the middle, wiring would be simpler.

So in summary, you have a Canadian company touting their great battery and backing it with a poor warranty that will be very hard to make a claim against in a foreign country. Might as well buy a Chinese manufactured unit and be in same boat.
 
glandpuck said:
I watched the entire webinar on the Helios battery. I downloaded and reviewed all of the sales sheets, specs, installaiion manual and warranty.

What I found lacking was the following:

One battery plus a wirebox and a Sol-Ark 15k stacked adds to over 79 inches. Add any extra height if you need to be above ground level for snow, water, etc and you have a very tall combo stack.

These batteries take up a lot of wall space with the space needed between them.

The warranty for this battery makes them a very risky purchase.

The warranty is governed under the laws of I believe British Columbia, Canada, not USA. There is no USA warranty.

In order to make a warranty claim, logs of the battery use must be furnished to the company.

The battery is only warranted for 10 years, but the limitations are to 60% of original power. This means the battery is not defective if it looses 40% of it's capacity in just 10 years. To put it another way, if you buy 10 batteries, after 10 years, only 6 will be working. That's a big upfront expense.
Lastly, unless I did my math wrong, the warranty throughput averages to 26 kWh charge/discharge per battery per day over 10 years. Go past this and no warranty. So if you charge to 100% and run down to 19%, you can do this one time per day to maintain warranty.

What I don't like is that the webinar said you could lay batteries flat in a stack, but the heaters are at the bottom of the case and this makes no sense if in a stack and the installation manual makes no provision for this. Also, the batteries are left and right sided. If the front and back were the same so you could turn them in either direction to put inverters in the middle, wiring would be simpler.

So in summary, you have a Canadian company touting their great battery and backing it with a poor warranty that will be very hard to make a claim against in a foreign country. Might as well buy a Chinese manufactured unit and be in same boat.
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Which battery do you recommend. When I was looking at the Eg4 All Weather battery it’s warranty has a provision that could make the warranty void.

“Damages incurred from voltage or current spikes due to open-loop lithium battery communications.”
 

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glandpuck said:
I watched the entire webinar on the Helios battery. I downloaded and reviewed all of the sales sheets, specs, installaiion manual and warranty.

What I found lacking was the following:

One battery plus a wirebox and a Sol-Ark 15k stacked adds to over 79 inches. Add any extra height if you need to be above ground level for snow, water, etc and you have a very tall combo stack.

These batteries take up a lot of wall space with the space needed between them.

The warranty for this battery makes them a very risky purchase.

The warranty is governed under the laws of I believe British Columbia, Canada, not USA. There is no USA warranty.

In order to make a warranty claim, logs of the battery use must be furnished to the company.

The battery is only warranted for 10 years, but the limitations are to 60% of original power. This means the battery is not defective if it looses 40% of it's capacity in just 10 years. To put it another way, if you buy 10 batteries, after 10 years, only 6 will be working. That's a big upfront expense.
Lastly, unless I did my math wrong, the warranty throughput averages to 26 kWh charge/discharge per battery per day over 10 years. Go past this and no warranty. So if you charge to 100% and run down to 19%, you can do this one time per day to maintain warranty.

What I don't like is that the webinar said you could lay batteries flat in a stack, but the heaters are at the bottom of the case and this makes no sense if in a stack and the installation manual makes no provision for this. Also, the batteries are left and right sided. If the front and back were the same so you could turn them in either direction to put inverters in the middle, wiring would be simpler.

So in summary, you have a Canadian company touting their great battery and backing it with a poor warranty that will be very hard to make a claim against in a foreign country. Might as well buy a Chinese manufactured unit and be in same boat.
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Not sure if you've ever taken a look at the eg4 battery warranty, in its latest version for the power pro 280ah you have to keep up with firmware updates or you could be denied.

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Regarding Discover batteries. I was an early adopter of their 48 volt AES battery in 2018.

The first one that I bought had some kind of wiring glitch that I wasn’t able to fix with a replacement harness. Discover sent me the above harness and then a new battery at no charge.

I added two more for a total of three. These are working really well.

I run them closed loop with Schneider XW+.

My guess is that the build quality of the Helios will be very good.

25% tariffs to the USA will make them less affordable.
 
I still have the itch. Went to SS looking it over some more. SS shows 3 yr warr. now. Go to Schneider, shows 3 yr warr unless you register then it's 5 yrs. I thought it was 10 yr warr., a while back for the xwpro? If this is so, there figuring on stopping support in 5 yrs when they run out.
 
No argument here , your right if registered. But the other components I find to be different like the mppt charger which you have to perchase an extended warr to get 10 years. It throwed me off while on sig sol site showing 3 years under the xw pro. I don't know why they can't seem to list things right at times.
 
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