Server Rack Eco-Worthy 48v 100ah and EG4 6000xp comms.

[trad]

ECO-WORTHY 48V 100Ah LiFePO4 Lithium Battery, 5.12kWh Capacity, Server Rack Battery with Indicator Lamp, 15000 Cycles, 3U Chassis, $900 on Amazon delivered.​

But the fine print EG4 not mentioned in communication support...

• "Battery support CAN/RS485, which allows to communicate effortlessly with popular all-in-one solar inverter chargers from brands like Victron, SMA, DEYE, GoodWe, and Growatt, ensuring a plug-and-play experience with no additional configuration needed "

Has anyone used these Batteries with an EG4 and gotten comms working?

 

[trad]

Note also posted on eBay See this thread for the full story.

 

[BarracudaBob]

Post in thread 'ECO-WORTHY 48V 100Ah 5120Wh LiFePO4 Server Rack Battery'

Nov 1, 2024

Very sunny south Florida day. E-W Rack battery just reached the peek 56.2V absorption voltage. Only says 99% so the BMS may be looking for 3.600V for 100%. I'll have to check that setting. Very happy with the balancing. I am courious what others find out. Don't need to keep posting these snapshots but man it is wonderful to have cells so close to eachother

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[trad]

I found your very awesome thread after I posted this. I am halfway through yours now....

 

[samwhammy]

ECO-WORTHY 48V 100Ah LiFePO4 Lithium Battery, 5.12kWh Capacity, Server Rack Battery with Indicator Lamp, 15000 Cycles, 3U Chassis, $900 on Amazon delivered.​

But the fine print EG4 not mentioned in communication support...

• "Battery support CAN/RS485, which allows to communicate effortlessly with popular all-in-one solar inverter chargers from brands like Victron, SMA, DEYE, GoodWe, and Growatt, ensuring a plug-and-play experience with no additional configuration needed "

Has anyone used these Batteries with an EG4 and gotten comms working?

Looks like they are out of stock and only got a 2 star rating. I am looking at these for additional batteries.

48V 100Ah LiFePO4 Lithium Battery, CYCCLEVOLT Metal Case 51.2V LiFePO4 Server Rack Battery, Max 5120W Load Power, 3U Chassis,Smart Display, 8000+ Cycles, Perfect for RV, Boat, Solar, Off-Grid​

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It uses a PACE bms.

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$899.99$899.99

 

[BarracudaBob]

More are on the boat headed to California on eBay

 

[BarracudaBob]

Note also posted on eBay See this thread for the full story.

Exactly:

Thread 'ECO-WORTHY 48V 100Ah 5120Wh LiFePO4 Server Rack Battery'

Oct 10, 2024

"ECO-WORTHY 48V 100Ah 5120Wh LiFePO4 Lithium Battery Metal Case for UPS"

Support CAN/RS485, which allows to communicate with all-in-one solar inverter chargers from brands like Victron, SMA, DEYE, GoodWe, and Growatt. $1,099.99 $719 & Free Shipping on 10/28/24 eBay

The competition is heating up.

• BarracudaBob
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[pitmaster2002]

Well we will see, I just purchased 2 of these and crossing my fingers.

 

[sinkorswim]

I just ordered the 4 count server rack batteries (plus the rack) special on ebay ($3099), and contacted the eco worthy store through ebay and they told me to "use the communication protocol for PYL (pylon) and use the 485 interface to connect the batteries". Does this sound about right? Maybe someone can try it and let us (me) know.

I'm new to the whole solar thing and have been looking into it for little over a month now..
I purchased a EG4 6000XP last night through current connected along with 10 405w bifacial panels to take advantage of their free shipping for $2000 and over purchases.

 

[BarracudaBob]

I just ordered the 4 count server rack batteries (plus the rack) special on ebay ($3099), and contacted the eco worthy store through ebay and they told me to "use the communication protocol for PYL (pylon) and use the 485 interface to connect the batteries". Does this sound about right? Maybe someone can try it and let us (me) know.

I'm new to the whole solar thing and have been looking into it for little over a month now..
I purchased a EG4 6000XP last night through current connected along with 10 405w bifacial panels to take advantage of their free shipping for $2000 and over purchases.

the Eco-Worthy uses a JBD Smart BMS and is compatible with Pylon RS485 and CAN BUS. I never tried it with EG4 6000XP. Pylon seems to be one of the very popular protocols. I don't know if you have to change anything on the batteries via software but it is one of the choices listed. I have been using the batteries for a couple of weeks talking to Solar Assistant and they have been working well.

Like any new battery make sure you charge them up well and give them time to balance. If you don't you will be chasing them and trying to get all the cells balanced in the future. I have found this with 3 different server rack batteries. A good start otherwise you may be chasing your tail in the future.

can be set to do pylon is the most widely used protocol so yes that will work well for you.

 

[sinkorswim]

the Eco-Worthy uses a JBD Smart BMS and is compatible with Pylon RS485 and CAN BUS. I never tried it with EG4 6000XP. Pylon seems to be one of the very popular protocols. I don't know if you have to change anything on the batteries via software but it is one of the choices listed. I have been using the batteries for a couple of weeks talking to Solar Assistant and they have been working well.

Like any new battery make sure you charge them up well and give them time to balance. If you don't you will be chasing them and trying to get all the cells balanced in the future. I have found this with 3 different server rack batteries. A good start otherwise you may be chasing your tail in the future.

can be set to do pylon is the most widely used protocol so yes that will work well for you.

I sent you a private message with a question or two.

 

[BarracudaBob]

I sent you a private message with a question or two.

I answered it. the CAN bus should work out of the box.

 

[Randya]

I hooked up four of these to a 6000xp and got comms to read with the battery set on #4 & #5. The 6000xp shows battery voltage and % just fine. The problem I am having is when I turn on the inverter output the inverter puts out 115v on L1 & L2 for 10 seconds then it drops off to 0v.
The relay never drops out so I am totally confused. It's like the batteries shut down their discharge to the inverter. The lights on the inverter shows normal operation with no fault. I went through all 21 battery settings and only got comms on setting 4 & 5. On both the same thing happens.
Ten seconds of 115v output on L1 & L2 then goes to 0v.

 

[BarracudaBob]

I hooked up four of these to a 6000xp and got comms to read with the battery set on #4 & #5. The 6000xp shows battery voltage and % just fine. The problem I am having is when I turn on the inverter output the inverter puts out 115v on L1 & L2 for 10 seconds then it drops off to 0v.
The relay never drops out so I am totally confused. It's like the batteries shut down their discharge to the inverter. The lights on the inverter shows normal operation with no fault. I went through all 21 battery settings and only got comms on setting 4 & 5. On both the same thing happens.
Ten seconds of 115v output on L1 & L2 then goes to 0v.

I don't know much about the 6000XP. How about using a volt meter and verifying that the battery output voltage is stable. Can you run the inverter in dumb battery mode? This would show it isn't a DC voltage/current issue. That would be a start. How about the chassis of the battery and inverter grounded. Prevent any weird voltage issues messing with the battery to inverter data. I never trusted a little ground wire on a RJ45. Most of the times my racks are grounded so I don't have to rely on a little data ground wire. Naturally the + or - of the battery are floating and never grounded.

 

[Randya]

I tried setting the battery type to lead acid and it did the same thing. Will get a dongle on it tomorrow and do some big earth grounds. It is not so easy to see everything on the phone app. I will also put a meter on the battery input to watch it. The screen shows a steady voltage but I trust my meter more.
Was one of those days...also found my Flexboss cutting pv voltage input in half.
On a different thread I just posted .....

 

[BarracudaBob]

I tried setting the battery type to lead acid and it did the same thing. Will get a dongle on it tomorrow and do some big earth grounds. It is not so easy to see everything on the phone app. I will also put a meter on the battery input to watch it. The screen shows a steady voltage but I trust my meter more.
Was one of those days...also found my Flexboss cutting pv voltage input in half.
On a different thread I just posted .....

Good old troubleshooting. Well keep disconnecting until you get to the RAW inverter and battery and prove that works and move to the next step. I like to know what works and keep moving forward. You'll figure it out.

 

[realrc74]

does anyone mix/match Eco-Worthy packs with Cyccle Volt packs?

 

[BarracudaBob]

does anyone mix/match Eco-Worthy packs with Cyccle Volt packs?

I have mixed E-W with EG4 LP4V1. The E-W require 56.8V to reset the BMS to 100%. Some of the more conservative older batteries will alarm out at that voltage even tough the cell voltage is still very safe. Other than that they are 16 cell 2.5 to 3.65V LiFePO4 cells so battery campatibility isn't an issue. It is the BMS alarm/protection parameter settings is the only issue that you may run into. We found that the Bluetooth module on the E-W using the Overkill app allows you to change these values. The Windows software is view only as we don't know the password for User: JBD888.

The Cyclevolt uses a Pace BMS where the ECO-WORTHY uses a JBD UP16S015.
The E-W does allow you to change the RS485 & CAN protocol to different version. Default is Pylontech.

The E-W give you a free 4 unit rack with a purchase of 4 batteries. That may change in the future as they are going to a 6 pack rack in January. That is a hard deal to pass up right now.

The thread about the E-W rack battery is here:

Thread 'ECO-WORTHY 48V 100Ah 5120Wh LiFePO4 Server Rack Battery'

Oct 10, 2024

"ECO-WORTHY 48V 100Ah 5120Wh LiFePO4 Lithium Battery Metal Case for UPS"

Support CAN/RS485, which allows to communicate with all-in-one solar inverter chargers from brands like Victron, SMA, DEYE, GoodWe, and Growatt. $1,099.99 $719 & Free Shipping on 10/28/24 eBay

The competition is heating up.

• BarracudaBob
• Replies: 1,871
• Forum: DIY Solar General Discussion

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[realrc74]

I have mixed E-W with EG4 LP4V1. The E-W require 56.8V to reset the BMS to 100%. Some of the more conservative older batteries will alarm out at that voltage even tough the cell voltage is still very safe. Other than that they are 16 cell 2.5 to 3.65V LiFePO4 cells so battery campatibility isn't an issue. It is the BMS alarm/protection parameter settings is the only issue that you may run into. We found that the Bluetooth module on the E-W using the Overkill app allows you to change these values. The Windows software is view only as we don't know the password for User: JBD888.

The Cyclevolt uses a Pace BMS where the ECO-WORTHY uses a JBD UP16S015.
The E-W does allow you to change the RS485 & CAN protocol to different version. Default is Pylontech.

The E-W give you a free 4 unit rack with a purchase of 4 batteries. That may change in the future as they are going to a 6 pack rack in January. That is a hard deal to pass up right now.

The thread about the E-W rack battery is here:

Thread 'ECO-WORTHY 48V 100Ah 5120Wh LiFePO4 Server Rack Battery'

Oct 10, 2024

"ECO-WORTHY 48V 100Ah 5120Wh LiFePO4 Lithium Battery Metal Case for UPS"

Support CAN/RS485, which allows to communicate with all-in-one solar inverter chargers from brands like Victron, SMA, DEYE, GoodWe, and Growatt. $1,099.99 $719 & Free Shipping on 10/28/24 eBay

The competition is heating up.

• BarracudaBob
• Replies: 1,871
• Forum: DIY Solar General Discussion

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My current BMS setting is PYLON.

Do you think SOC will work fine wit EW packs?

 

[Randya]

Figured this out this morning. 6000xp will turn off the EPS output if there is zero load after 6-10 seconds. I plugged in a shop light and it stayed on. This is for "portable " power at my shop so there is not a full time load on it. It can be charged up with grid, generator, or PV. It is not as portable as the dolly set ups you see on YouTube but it has way more battery backup. I like more power !

 

[BarracudaBob]

Figured this out this morning. 6000xp will turn off the EPS output if there is zero load after 6-10 seconds. I plugged in a shop light and it stayed on. This is for "portable " power at my shop so there is not a full time load on it. It can be charged up with grid, generator, or PV. It is not as portable as the dolly set ups you see on YouTube but it has way more battery backup. I like more power !View attachment 262797View attachment 262798View attachment 262799View attachment 262801

Now that is a portable power! Where are the handles?

 

[Jmhai3]

Now that is a portable power! Where are the handles?

Who needs handles when you got a forklift.

 

[Randya]

Yea and I am 65 so don’t really pick up anything anymore. It’s a struggle just to pick up my lazy a.. and get out of bed in the morning !

 

[BarracudaBob]

Yea and I am 65 so don’t really pick up anything anymore. It’s a struggle just to pick up my lazy a.. and get out of bed in the morning !

65 is the new 40

 

[BarracudaBob]

Yea and I am 65 so don’t really pick up anything anymore. It’s a struggle just to pick up my lazy a.. and get out of bed in the morning !

I am right there behind you. Still limping after playing pickle ball with the grand kids. Wife is one me to exercise more as I limp around. Becoming a cranky old fart.