• Have you tried out dark mode?! Scroll to the bottom of any page to find a sun or moon icon to turn dark mode on or off!

diy solar

diy solar

Sol-Ark response to reports of Deye inverters shutting down

cs1234 said:
This is a pretty serious accusation. Claiming to be a vet and not being one is not good. Surely he isn't bold enough to do such a thing?
Click to expand...
claims to be, a lot of folks have discussed this off and on, and nobody could find any proof. I can not say one way or the other but I will tell you this as a vet. I have a million and one pieces of proof from just my first four years (not counting the required Xwife and half asian kids.... I have the goofy ass moto pics that all the boots take, actual bootcamp photos and year book (yeah I bought that damn thing) and of course the prerequisite DD-214's (multiples) you know that he just like James lurks on this forum and other solar forums (well maybe not so much these days). but I guarantee you he used too and probably has some teen staffer whose sole job is too surf the solar forums looking for people saying bad things about the company or himself... and never a peep when this question has come up. They used to advertise Veteran Owned and operatred... do they still? did he form the company up in his grandpa or fathers name?

there is a company that bids on BIG contracts with the navy all the time... Female owned, vet owned minority owned native american owned... all in one company. each of those gives you an advantage when you bid. the company in question is 51% owned by a female with like 1/1024% inuit blood who served one tour in the national guard. bingo, female, minority, native american, vet.... that company bids higher than anybody else 90% of the time and still gets a shitload of contracts as they get 11ty billion bonus points for all of the stupid shit. so companies do that shit all the time...it is big money when you are bidding and any additional points you can get helps to win the bid.
 
May I remind everyone to stay on topic. Also, make sure you read the code of conduct and terms and rules of the site. It's in Featured Content on the main page for a reason.

Will Prowse

Thread 'Official Forum "Code of Conduct" and "Terms of Service"'

Code of Conduct
  • Advertising is not allowed. Affiliate links, self promotion, spam etc, will result in a permanent ban and your IP address will be listed. It is ok to post basic links to products you like, but if we find that you are a shill, you will be banned.
  • Posts should stay on topic. If you post your favorite music video or a political rant on a thread about batteries, it will be deleted.
  • Be civil. If multiple members complain about disruptive behavior of a member, they will be banned. Be respectful to others, and treat others how you would like to be treated...
  • Like
 
I don’t know much about dongles. Or the Internet. But if the dongle gets on the Wi-Fi and figure out what country it’s in, can one tell the Wi-Fi router to VPN to the Internet as though you’re in a different country? A Deye approve country?
 
Bluedog225 said:
I don’t know much about dongles. Or the Internet. But if the dongle gets on the Wi-Fi and figure out what country it’s in, can one tell the Wi-Fi router to VPN to the Internet as though you’re in a different country? A Deye approve country?
Click to expand...
:-) doesn't work that way...
The Process basically takes an Internet Protocol address, which is unique ( or at least the range is unique ) to a provider.
In order for trafic to get anywhere on the internet a protocol called BGP is used to announce ip ranges to other providers.

So a set of ip addresses is always geo traceable when it hits the internet
 
I’m a little surprised there is not a way to spoof that. Even a clunky temporary analog telecom way. Long enough to get evidence to deye and unlock. Then disconnect.
 
Bluedog225 said:
But if the dongle gets on the Wi-Fi and figure out what country it’s in, can one tell the Wi-Fi router to VPN to the Internet as though you’re in a different country? A Deye approve country?
Click to expand...
Yes. This can be done. I do it so I can watch football games when they are blacked out in my area. It's no simple thing to set up though.
 
houseofancients said:
:-) doesn't work that way...
The Process basically takes an Internet Protocol address, which is unique ( or at least the range is unique ) to a provider.
In order for trafic to get anywhere on the internet a protocol called BGP is used to announce ip ranges to other providers.

So a set of ip addresses is always geo traceable when it hits the internet
Click to expand...

I keep seeing mistake about how VPN an geoip lookup work in this thread and had to register an account so I could correct it. :-)

Yes, everything must have a unique IP address at the edge where it connects to the Internet, this is true. Almost every home system uses Network Address Translation (NAT), though, so only the edge router's IP where it communicates with the Internet Service Provider (ISP) is unique.

When you connect a device with a Virtual Private Network (VPN), though, it's network traffic is encapsulated and forwarded to the other side of the VPN tunnel where is put onto the Internet as having come from the VPN server's IP. Response traffic thus goes to the VPN provider, who encapsulates it and sends it along to the VPN client. This process, if done correctly, is invisible to both the end client device (a Deye inverter in this scenario) and the site it's talking to (Deye's management system). Deye would not be able to tell that the inverter is being routed through a VPN to another country.

And _none_ of this process is directly tied to physical locations. The various geoip databases, of which whois is the main and most important, don't actually know where a specific IP is being used ln the Real World (IRL). Whois contains the address of the person or company to which the block of IPs containing a specific IP is delegated. This could be you, but is probably your ISP.

Or, if you route through a VPN, it will be the registered address of the VPN provider.

So, yes, running your inverter through a VPN will definitely make it appear (to a geoip query) to be in the locale where the VPN provider puts your traffic back on the Net. Deye would not be able to identify what country you're in reliably from your traffic's apparent source IP.

This means geoio would be a profoundly bad choice for Deye to use in identifying inverters to disable. Not saying they didn't, but it would be unreliable
(This is how people watch shows online that aren't licensed for their region; if Netflix can't find a way to make this reliable, there's no way Deye could.)
 
us3r1d said:
I keep seeing mistake about how VPN an geoip lookup work in this thread and had to register an account so I could correct it. :-)

Yes, everything must have a unique IP address at the edge where it connects to the Internet, this is true. Almost every home system uses Network Address Translation (NAT), though, so only the edge router's IP where it communicates with the Internet Service Provider (ISP) is unique.

When you connect a device with a Virtual Private Network (VPN), though, it's network traffic is encapsulated and forwarded to the other side of the VPN tunnel where is put onto the Internet as having come from the VPN server's IP. Response traffic thus goes to the VPN provider, who encapsulates it and sends it along to the VPN client. This process, if done correctly, is invisible to both the end client device (a Deye inverter in this scenario) and the site it's talking to (Deye's management system). Deye would not be able to tell that the inverter is being routed through a VPN to another country.

And _none_ of this process is directly tied to physical locations. The various geoip databases, of which whois is the main and most important, don't actually know where a specific IP is being used ln the Real World (IRL). Whois contains the address of the person or company to which the block of IPs containing a specific IP is delegated. This could be you, but is probably your ISP.

Or, if you route through a VPN, it will be the registered address of the VPN provider.

So, yes, running your inverter through a VPN will definitely make it appear (to a geoip query) to be in the locale where the VPN provider puts your traffic back on the Net. Deye would not be able to identify what country you're in reliably from your traffic's apparent source IP.

This means geoio would be a profoundly bad choice for Deye to use in identifying inverters to disable. Not saying they didn't, but it would be unreliable
(This is how people watch shows online that aren't licensed for their region; if Netflix can't find a way to make this reliable, there's no way Deye could.)
Click to expand...
I was trying to explain it so anyone could understand .

VPN and source based routing is not something the av. User here can do or understand, besides vpn will leak ip details and are notorious for it..
VPN is not a good way to hide, but a good way to protect your data..

In another topic I said " probably a combination of model nr, time zone and source ip were used"

Seems you mostly understoof half on how layer 2 and 3 work..
May I suggest you study the OSI model again ?
 
houseofancients said:
I was trying to explain it so anyone could understand .

VPN and source based routing is not something the av. User here can do or understand, besides vpn will leak ip details and are notorious for it..
VPN is not a good way to hide, but a good way to protect your data..

In another topic I said " probably a combination of model nr, time zone and source ip were used"

Seems you mostly understoof half on how layer 2 and 3 work..
May I suggest you study the OSI model again ?
Click to expand...
If you think I got anything wrong other than simplifying for a non-specialist audience, please point to it? I do this stuff for a living so I am eager to learn.
 
us3r1d said:
If you think I got anything wrong other than simplifying for a non-specialist audience, please point to it? I do this stuff for a living so I am eager to learn.
Click to expand...
Been doing this stuff for a living for the better part of 2 decades now..

VPN header can and will contain source ip information, unless cleaned.
Or "onionized" like tor does...
Through header scraping proxy's etc

VPN are not for hiding ones location, the are to safe guard data transmission
 
houseofancients said:
Been doing this stuff for a living for the better part of 2 decades now..

VPN header can and will contain source ip information, unless cleaned.
Or "onionized" like tor does...
Through header scraping proxy's etc

VPN are not for hiding ones location, the are to safe guard data transmission
Click to expand...
We are getting however off topic..
 
houseofancients said:
Been doing this stuff for a living for the better part of 2 decades now..

VPN header can and will contain source ip information, unless cleaned.
Or "onionized" like tor does...
Through header scraping proxy's etc

VPN are not for hiding ones location, the are to safe guard data transmission
Click to expand...

takes VPN + IPSEC to guard the data, but we are off topic
 
houseofancients said:
Been doing this stuff for a living for the better part of 2 decades now..

VPN header can and will contain source ip information, unless cleaned.
Or "onionized" like tor does...
Through header scraping proxy's etc

VPN are not for hiding ones location, the are to safe guard data transmission
Click to expand...

Well, let's not get into decade-measuring. I would make you feel like a spring chicken. :-)

There are no "VPN headers" visible to the end nodes of a session that crosses a VPN external to both nodes. And web request headers will contain the pre-NAT IP of the inverter, which tells you nothing. We're talking about an IOT device and a webapp here.

But sure, off-topic.
 
us3r1d said:
Well, let's not get into decade-measuring. I would make you feel like a spring chicken. :-)

There are no "VPN headers" visible to the end nodes of a session that crosses a VPN external to both nodes. And web request headers will contain the pre-NAT IP of the inverter, which tells you nothing. We're talking about an IOT device and a webapp here.

But sure, off-topic.
Click to expand...
First link found when searching "ip packet headers vpnx

Understanding VPN IPSec Tunnel Mode and IPSec Transport Mode - What's the Difference?

IPSec Tunnel vs IPSec Transport mode. Advantages & disadvantages. IPSec AH & ESP encapsulation-encryption differences & config examples. Diagrams included.
www.firewall.cx www.firewall.cx
I'll leave it here...
You do you, I'll do me
 
So has anyone come up with a way to restore these bricked DEYE Inverters that were made and direct market for the USA?
 
SeaGal said:
(y) So, late last night, I saw this thread start and Simon's response. Woke up this morning expecting to find lots more detail about what exactly happened and why, yet there is nothing more whatsoever from @SolarPowerSimon at all, 12 hours later, despite specific questions to him - just 3 posts, two of which are duplicates and one "that is correct" response to SolArk not issuing recovery codes.

What's the point of coming on here, claiming you're the VP of Marketing of SolArk and then not doing your job?

Edited to add: After posting this, I doubted myself, so quickly googled the functions of a "VP of Marketing"... turns out it's...
Definition of a Vice President of Marketing
"A Vice President of Marketing is a senior executive who orchestrates a company's marketing strategies, branding efforts, and market research to drive business growth and enhance brand equity. This pivotal role sits at the crossroads of creative vision and data-driven decision-making, requiring a blend of analytical prowess and creative flair. The VP of Marketing shapes the public narrative of the company, oversees the marketing team, and collaborates closely with other departments to ensure alignment with the organization's goals and objectives. As a key member of the leadership team, they are instrumental in setting the strategic direction for product marketing, customer engagement, and overall market positioning, ultimately influencing the company's success in the competitive landscape."

I don't see much of that going on, 3+ days after the SHTF.
Click to expand...
Does Simon still work for them?
https://www.sol-ark.com/about/
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

P
Deye inverter and Sol Ark together
Replies
2
Views
271
timselectric
T
FilterGuy
Was Your DEYE Shut Down?
3 4 5
Replies
101
Views
6K
OffGridForGood
OffGridForGood
P
Are EG4 and Sol-Ark Inverters Rebranded Deye Inverters?
Replies
5
Views
627
hubbl3
H
C
Sol Ark 15K with Generator
Replies
12
Views
249
TechRider
TechRider
T
Sol-Ark 15K FAILED! - My experience with Sol-Ark ; Their response was underwhelming
13 14 15
Replies
371
Views
9K
NC_hydro
NC_hydro

diy solar

diy solar
Back
Top