US Imposes tariffs on Southeast Asian Solar Panels

[J.H.]

It will be worse for our northern neighbors if we shut off the $100 Billion in aid we give them each year.

The worst that can happen is we have an extra hundred billion to help the poor folks in NC thst have been neglected by FEMA …
Sleeping in un heated tents when it’s 15 F last week…
What a shame… what a shame …

You wouldn’t believe it up here in some places,if ya saw it.

J.

 

[Brett V]

The worst that can happen is we have an extra hundred billion to help the poor folks in NC thst have been neglected by FEMA …
Sleeping in un heated tents when it’s 15 F last week…
What a shame… what a shame …

You wouldn’t believe it up here in some places,if ya saw it.

J.

Oh I believe it! Our own citizens are suffering while we send billions to foreigners who despise us. It’s time for it to stop.

 

[J.H.]

Oh I believe it! Our own citizens are suffering while we send billions to foreigners who despise us. It’s time for it to stop.

I’m tired of supporting people world wide that don’t even like me…let ‘em get a job ..
Historically that has worked great to solve needing money…

 

[Norwasian]

In time you will understand …in very short time… economics is like a worldwide poker game ..the skill of the player will be exposed in good time… he’s a good player …

When the US economy begins to fail, many will try to play this "game" as you call it. No one, however, will be wise enough to fix what is broken.

The tariffs are not always part of a solution, but they can and do solve some things. The founding fathers of the United States of America understood the value of tariffs, and explicitly granted power to the government to levy them. There is a time and a purpose to every thing, but implemented out of its due season it will only cause trouble. Tariffs can help to equalize differences between economies that would otherwise hurt one economy or the other.

 

[Norwasian]

I’m tired of supporting people world wide that don’t even like me…let ‘em get a job ..
Historically that has worked great to solve needing money…

I think many do not understand the larger picture, and the reasons the USA sends aid to other countries. Many would be surprised to learn that the US economy would receive no benefit by ceasing to give such aid.

 

[J.H.]

I think many do not understand the larger picture, and the reasons the USA sends aid to other countries. Many would be surprised to learn that the US economy would receive no benefit by ceasing to give such aid.

I totally understand the larger picture you speak of and a lot more… but I have no intention of discussing somthing that complex and political in this forum… that is why I made a very limited initial post…
But I DO very much stand behind the basic concept of that post…

I also thank you for a polite and honest comment ….its somewhat rare nowdays ..

J.

 

[Vlaario]

How is the pricing of panels at the moment in the US ? we in the netherlands can buy them from 40$ for JA solar 400 wp panels.

Jinko little bit more expensive 65$ for 420 wp panels.

longi abot 50$ for 425 wp panels.

Trina 55$ for 425wp panels.


nobody wants them anymore as our government doesn't credit back exported energy in the summer when used in the winter from 2027 onwards, and our energy companies started charging fees for exporting energy to the grid.

our energy is expensive anyway

the light green is the actual energy price per Kwh the rest is tax.

today not much wind and sun so because of our green revolution prices are sky high.

normal price would be around 0.35$ kwh.

 

[Norwasian]

Jinko little bit more expensive 65$ for 420 wp panels.

longi abot 50$ for 425 wp panels.

Trina 55$ for 425wp panels.


nobody wants them anymore as our government doesn't credit back exported energy in the summer when used in the winter from 2027 onwards, and our energy companies started charging fees for exporting energy to the grid.

I think the key point there is that no one wants the panels. In Thailand, where I am, 580-watt LONGi panels run about $100 US--slightly higher wattage, but double the price you quoted.

It's too bad your power companies are so influential with your government. I would think in that situation people would be the more encouraged to cut ties with the grid altogether and go off-grid.

 

[Vlaario]

I think the key point there is that no one wants the panels. In Thailand, where I am, 580-watt LONGi panels run about $100 US--slightly higher wattage, but double the price you quoted.

It's too bad your power companies are so influential with your government. I would think in that situation people would be the more encouraged to cut ties with the grid altogether and go off-grid.

our problem is our latitude at 52 deg north it is impossible to go fully off grid as the panels won't produce enough in the 3 winter months.

batteries are my go to now as i can charge the batteries at night with lower prices in the winter.

 

[Norwasian]

our problem is our latitude at 52 deg north it is impossible to go fully off grid as the panels won't produce enough in the 3 winter months.

batteries are my go to now as i can charge the batteries at night with lower prices in the winter.

Couldn't you simply add surplus panels with additional SCCs for winter use? You would not need them in the summer, as you'd have plenty of solar hours then, but if you were able to charge your batteries in three hours (as my batteries here do in good sun), wouldn't that solve your dilemma?

I may be ignorant of your weather patterns, but cold weather is advantageous to solar production, so the main downside I'm considering here is that of a shorter solar day. If you tend to have cloudy weather for long stretches at the same time, then more solar panels may not help.

 

[Vlaario]

Couldn't you simply add surplus panels with additional SCCs for winter use? You would not need them in the summer, as you'd have plenty of solar hours then, but if you were able to charge your batteries in three hours (as my batteries here do in good sun), wouldn't that solve your dilemma?

I may be ignorant of your weather patterns, but cold weather is advantageous to solar production, so the main downside I'm considering here is that of a shorter solar day. If you tend to have cloudy weather for long stretches at the same time, then more solar panels may not help.

always cloudy in the winter, few sunny days if lucky mostly rain or heavy clouds for 2 months on end. netherlands

 

[rhino]

How is the pricing of panels at the moment in the US ? we in the netherlands can buy them from 40$ for JA solar 400 wp panels.

In USA it is at least double that.

 

[Steadfastly]

Someone already made the mention of time in setting up new plants or expanding existing ones. The problem with solar being more expensive and harder to get product made here in the N. America is because we were slow to get started. We were and are slow to move to cleaner fuel because our economies are based very much on fossil fuel. It's become a financial fight.

 

[dopeassjackson]

Proposing tariffs is a negotiation tactic and that's what this currently is. I cant believe people are alreaty panic buying things because the talk of such things like this.

 

[glandpuck]

How is the pricing of panels at the moment in the US ? we in the netherlands can buy them from 40$ for JA solar 400 wp panels.

Jinko little bit more expensive 65$ for 420 wp panels.

longi abot 50$ for 425 wp panels.

Trina 55$ for 425wp panels.


nobody wants them anymore as our government doesn't credit back exported energy in the summer when used in the winter from 2027 onwards, and our energy companies started charging fees for exporting energy to the grid.

our energy is expensive anyway

the light green is the actual energy price per Kwh the rest is tax.

today not much wind and sun so because of our green revolution prices are sky high.

normal price would be around 0.35$ kwh.

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There are plenty of panels made in Taiwan, Vietnam, Malaysia and even in the USA (due to government subsidies) that can be had for $0.28-$0.75 per watt.