Victron MultiPlus-II 24/5000/120-95 120V

[Crocdundee]

Hello,

Long-time reader and just getting to the position to install a solar system into our expedition truck. I have been trying to compare the differences of the Multiplus II 3kVA and Quattro 5kVA in the 24v range and was pretty bummed that it appeared that there wasn't a 5kVA Multiplus II out there as I really didn't need the 2 AC ins or wish to have the higher idle loads and cost of the Quattro. After checking on Victron's Multiplus II site today they had a spec sheet for a Multiplus II 3kVA 5kVA 120v. I am sorry if I am new to this, but I haven't seen this model a few months back when comparing models or even now on the inverter supply websites, explorist.life, amazon, local dealers, or on the forums. Is this new? It is for sale for ~$1620 on this website and a few others, but again, really haven't read or heard much about this model yet #PMP242505110. It has 24w/10w/3w loads and 95% max efficiency, which are also slightly better than the 5kVA Quattro and about $1000 cheaper. It's a bit larger than the MPII and similar in size to the Quattro at 64 lbs and 24.7 x 13.8 x 5.9. It would be a perfect match for my needs, but any advice would be greatly appreciated. The extra 2kVA would be important for our full-time travel needs.

Clear skies

 

[sunshine_eggo]

The MPII was first introduced in 2018. They are an evolution of the regular MP with an emphasis on improved idle consumption.

Victron equipment in a product range has a high degree of commonality. The reliability of one translates to the other, and they build up on the reliability of the standard MP.

Buy the version you need.

 

[texas-saluki]

Sunshine's response was fairly useless... going for response counts is my guess.

I am also interested in the 24/5000 and seems not to be stocked many places and wondering if that is because it doesn't have a UL rating yet.

My plan is for a split phase deployment and would need two of these. Interested if anyone has experience with the 24v versions also

Chris

 

[sunshine_eggo]

Sunshine's response was fairly useless... going for response counts is my guess.

Nice first post!

Yeah. That's the reason, or it might have more to do with my personal knowledge and experience with Victron having run their hardware for 5 years. Specific models are pretty much irrelevant. Pick the voltage and power you need, and you get the reliability.

I am also interested in the 24/5000 and seems not to be stocked many places and wondering if that is because it doesn't have a UL rating yet.

Not many Victron inverter/chargers are UL listed, and this one likely won't ever have it.

I have recently found out It is a new model that was scheduled for release in July of this year. Production often takes awhile to ramp up, so availability will be limited.

My plan is for a split phase deployment and would need two of these. Interested if anyone has experience with the 24v versions also

Sorry, can't help with that specific model, but I'd be happy to help with putting a Victron VE.Bus inverter/charger in split phase mode as they are all the same.

 

[seneysolar]

Sunshine's response was fairly useless... going for response counts is my guess.

Nice first post!

Hello,

Long-time reader and just getting to the position to install a solar system into our expedition truck. I have been trying to compare the differences of the Multiplus II 3kVA and Quattro 5kVA in the 24v range and was pretty bummed that it appeared that there wasn't a 5kVA Multiplus II out there as I really didn't need the 2 AC ins or wish to have the higher idle loads and cost of the Quattro. After checking on Victron's Multiplus II site today they had a spec sheet for a Multiplus II 3kVA 5kVA 120v. I am sorry if I am new to this, but I haven't seen this model a few months back when comparing models or even now on the inverter supply websites, explorist.life, amazon, local dealers, or on the forums. Is this new? It is for sale for ~$1620 on this website and a few others, but again, really haven't read or heard much about this model yet #PMP242505110. It has 24w/10w/3w loads and 95% max efficiency, which are also slightly better than the 5kVA Quattro and about $900 cheaper. It's a bit larger than the MPII and similar in size to the Quattro at 64 lbs and 24.7 x 13.8 x 5.9. It would be a perfect match for my needs, but any advice would be greatly appreciated. The extra 2kVA would be important for our full-time travel needs.

Clear skies

5k is awfully large for a mobil 24v setup. Are you going to be carrying the batteries to support it? What is an expedition truck? What loads are you trying to run?

 

[Crocdundee]

Thanks guys, yea I had a feeling it was either a new or recent model. This exact model is still not listed on most of the major retailers and still excluded on a lot of spec sheets for 24v 120v MPII.



The truck we have is a Mercedes-Benz 1625 Expedition truck that was built in the Netherlands. It's a more common and robust style of RVing I feel, we really like the platform more than the RVs here. I imported it last year after buying it used. It has a lengthy history travelling through Africa and EU, hoping it can remain a reliable truck here in the US. It has a basic EU solar/inverter setup now running only a few items, mostly 230v outlets around the truck. Since we are planning on going full time with it and we have a few dogs, we were going to try to install an AC, starlink, TV, microwave, camera system, airfryer, fridge, etc. It's definitely a bit overkill getting the 24/5000/120-95, but I like the specs a bit more than the MPII 24/3000/70-50 and it was over $1000 off the Quattro 24v/5000/120-100. I am hoping to add about 1.5-2kw of solar on the roof of the truck and maybe 500-700ah of lithium batteries. Still processing through the learning curve as DIY solar is still relatively new to me. Have read the Mobile Solar Power book by Will and also the Victron Wiring Unlimited, which has helped a lot.

Clear skies

 

[sunshine_eggo]

why not the 48/5000? Once you're over 4000, 48V is preferred.

 

[sunshine_eggo]

Have read the ... Victron Wiring Unlimited, which has helped a lot.

Clear skies

You're WAY ahead of the curve.

 

[Crocdundee]

You're probably right that 48/5000/70-95 120V is best for our situation, I was just under the impression that 48V inverters were for much larger setups and homes. The truck is natively 24V, there's four pumps (macerator, shower, diesel, water pump), a winch, rooftop ac, fridge and a few other electronics that are at 24v and thought it might be easiest to stay with that vs using a converter. It's still possible to change to a the 48v/5000 as I just put the order in. The 48/5000/70-95 is actually the same exact price as the 24/5000/120-95, here's the Victron spec sheet that shows both on the same breakdown. I'll try to do some more reading tomorrow, as I never considered going with the 48V/5000. Thanks for the advice.

 

[sunshine_eggo]

You're probably right that 48/5000/70-95 120V is best for our situation, I was just under the impression that 48V inverters were for much larger setups and homes. The truck is natively 24V, there's four pumps (macerator, shower, diesel, water pump), a winch, rooftop ac, fridge and a few other electronics that are at 24v and thought it might be easiest to stay with that vs using a converter. It's still possible to change to a the 48v/5000 as I just put the order in. The 48/5000/70-95 is actually the same exact price as the 24/5000/120-95, here's the Victron spec sheet that shows both on the same breakdown. I'll try to do some more reading tomorrow, as I never considered going with the 48V/5000. Thanks for the advice.

24V native does change the equation.

@HighTechLab might have some insight into the availability of the 24/5000 MP-II

 

[Crocdundee]

Thanks. the MP-II 24/5000 was available at LithiumUpgrade.com here. They are a local smaller shop and the owner seems like a great guy, so glad it was available there. I think for now I'll just stick to the 24v system, even though the wiring would be a bit cheaper when working with the 48v.

 

[sunshine_eggo]

Thanks. the MP-II 24/5000 was available at LithiumUpgrade.com here. They are a local smaller shop and the owner seems like a great guy, so glad it was available there. I think for now I'll just stick to the 24v system, even though the wiring would be a bit cheaper when working with the 48v.

The link does not go to Lithiumupgrade.com. It goes to pkys Inc, which is a well known Victron dealer. Are they related?

 

[HighTechLab]

24V native does change the equation.

@HighTechLab might have some insight into the availability of the 24/5000 MP-II

Looks like a pretty new release. Just put some on order and will add them to the website this week.

 

[Crocdundee]

The link does not go to Lithiumupgrade.com. It goes to pkys Inc, which is a well known Victron dealer. Are they related?

Oops yea had that link wrong, it should be fixed now.