victron vs eg4 6000xp

[freedomsixty]

We are a marine installer and use strictly victron but have a few questions
as we are installing a system in a storage area to run 3 to 4 mini splits to keep temp down

location tampa bay area fl
metal building
plenty of room for tons of panels
everything in a clean inside location

question is do I go with

victron easysolar gx 5000 x 2
victron SmartSolar MPPT RS 450/100-MC4 with a quattro 10000
or since we are on land and level of sound and reliability is not as critical do i go to
EG4 6000xp x 2

Is there a better solution ? other than what I have put on here

what is the most efficient 36k or 24k mini splits out there I have looked at the eg4's but want to know what else people have real world knowledge of good reliable units that sip power !!

we will only be running the ac system during the daytime
we will have 2 x 100 ah batteries for the occasional clouds and what not

looking for
ease of install
quality
price point
and least maintenance needed

 

[MattMan119]

For ease of installation I would also think about the 12000xp (not to be mixed up with 12kPV).. would give you one unit and simplify…

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I have not reviewed power usage of the 36k units, they all show a 30a connection.. I wonder how much of that is for start and how much for running.

 

[740GLE]

You can rule out the Easysolar GX unless you have no issues running only 230v as its euro only, no split phase.

You could add an auto xfrmr to get split phase but kinda negates the cost savings.

 

[Madcodger]

Man, this is an eternal debate. If fan noise is not an issue 6000XPs are a great bang for the buck (I have three). But I also love my Multiplus and passively cooled SCCs in another building. As noted, the 12K unit from EG4 appears to be a great deal as well. If you can buy Victron wholesale I'd use it, but I do like (and own) both brands.

For mini-splits, I've had Daikin, EG4, and Mitsubishi. I won't install another Daikin, liked my EG4 well enough but found the controls wonky (Fahrenheit is an afterthought), and love my Mitsubishis.

 

[Drunkin Solar]

If your not on a strict budget I know of no reason why anyone would consider a beta box EG4 over Victron gear...

 

[ricardocello]

Not trying to be antagonistic, but does EG4 even consider marine use when designing their gear? Specifically the salt air?
Conformal coating on boards? Connectors?

I know for sure Victron does (and they have had redesigns to fix issues), but that is one of their main markets.
Nevertheless, it would be interesting to hear from someone with an EG4 marine installation.

 

[HardYakka]

Had LF inverters in several sailboats (Heart then Magnums) never a problem. I have 2 XP's now which I am not a fan of and switching to Magnums as primary inverter stack for the farm's power shack. No grid connection.

 

[rodrick]

Personally if I’m looking for something inexpensive for that type of project I’d go with a pair of lv or lvx 6048 mpp units which are made by voltronic

 

[42OhmsPA]

Personally if I’m looking for something inexpensive for that type of project I’d go with a pair of lv or lvx 6048 mpp units which are made by voltronic

I'd stick with the LV, could also go with the voltronic 6548 variants if you only need 120V or parallel for 240V.
Might as well throw SRNE into the mix to. I'd take a 10KW ASP any day.

 

[freedomsixty]

Not trying to be antagonistic, but does EG4 even consider marine use when designing their gear? Specifically the salt air?
Conformal coating on boards? Connectors?

I know for sure Victron does (and they have had redesigns to fix issues), but that is one of their main markets.
Nevertheless, it would be interesting to hear from someone with an EG4 marine installation.

this is not a marine use this is a storage business as stated above we are marine installers so have used many victrons as stated thanks

 

[revelator]

I'd stick with the LV, could also go with the voltronic 6548 variants if you only need 120V or parallel for 240V.
Might as well throw SRNE into the mix to. I'd take a 10KW ASP any day.

Could someone verify if the SRNE ( or Renogy 7.6kW) has a low Standby power consumption of <3W per spec sheet (below). EG4 claims < 30W, <50 (PV, AC/Batt) on the 6000XP , MPP LVX6548 is about 200W on standby. The later I've been operating for 2+ years running a 3-Ton Var speed ducted Heat pump air conditioner (GRRE Flexx) . BTW, MPP reliability rock solid so far.

https://www.renogy.com/content/Renogy%20X/Renogy%20X%20Inverter/Renogy%20X%207.6kW%20LV%20Inverter_Spec%20Sheet.pdf

 

[42OhmsPA]

Could someone verify if the SRNE ( or Renogy 7.6kW) has a low Standby power consumption of <3W per spec sheet (below). EG4 claims < 30W, <50 (PV, AC/Batt) on the 6000XP , MPP LVX6548 is about 200W on standby. The later I've been operating for 2+ years running a 3-Ton Var speed ducted Heat pump air conditioner (GRRE Flexx) . BTW, MPP reliability rock solid so far.

https://www.renogy.com/content/Renogy%20X/Renogy%20X%20Inverter/Renogy%20X%207.6kW%20LV%20Inverter_Spec%20Sheet.pdf

I know the SRNE are ~10W / 1KW output. My 10KW ASPs are ~100W running off battery. The 5KW HYPs are ~50W; If you put them in power save mode they will be less but won't run if loads are less than xx watts.

I would bet a decent amount of money the renogy are not under 3W.

I'm confident the LV6548 from MPP aren't 200W.