Would you like to try NEW Hybrid gasoline&solar generator 2 in 1 with 1500Wh battery

[Rita Nie]

This is a totally new innovation battery station, the built in 1500Wh battery can storage the power from solar panel&gasoline generator.
Very easy to connect by solar panel, and simple operation for the gasoline generator.
Anyone would like this one?

1. Dual Power Sources: Seamlessly integrates solar energy, gasoline, and mains electricity. Prioritizes solar/wind charging (eco-friendly) while offering gasoline backup for uninterrupted power.
2. High Efficiency & Flexibility:
   • Output options: 220V/600W, 110V/600W, 220V/1500W, 110V/1500W.
   • Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery: Safe, durable, and compatible with solar, wind, Type-C, and gasoline charging.
   • Gasoline Generator: 40cc engine, 550W max power, and 2.2L fuel tank (generates 1000–1200Wh per liter).
3. Smart Automation: Automatically switches to solar/wind or gasoline charging when the battery drops below 20%, ensuring continuous operation.
4. Portable & User-Friendly: Compact design with multiple outputs (AC/DC12V/USB/Type-C), ideal for camping, emergencies, construction sites, and off-grid use.

• Auto Start/Stop: Generator halts when the battery is fully charged, saving fuel.
• Rugged Safety Protocols: Includes polarity protection, fuel spill prevention, and overheating alerts.
• Easy Maintenance: Clear guidelines for fuel/oil changes, filter cleaning, and long-term storage.
• Emergency Backup: Critical support during blackouts or natural disasters.
• Remote Work Sites: Reliable energy for tools and equipment in off-grid locations.

 

[Rita Nie]

Anyone can help me on this? share some feedback about this design, thanks.

 

[skyking1]

It is complex. The initial impression is that while a good concept, the system reliability would need to be well tested and proven out.
I personally have not seen a reliable auto start on a small engine like that.

 

[Rita Nie]

It is complex. The initial impression is that while a good concept, the system reliability would need to be well tested and proven out.
I personally have not seen a reliable auto start on a small engine like that.

Yes, our engine can AUTO start and stop when the power of the battery is 100% and below 10%, we can monitor it by software.
It is totally a new product and which already passed all test for selling.

 

[fatjay]

1500wh battery is basically useless for any of the tasks you're proposing.

Your output limit of 1500w doesn't match the graphic of lights, fans, microwaves, fridges, and hair dryers. And everyone knows it. And no one likes being lied to.

Even worse is your gas generator is only capable of supplying 550w, which is basically a joke as it can't match anywhere close to the rated output. Static loads are going to be higher than the generator output which means the battery as a buffer is basically useless.

 

[Rita Nie]

1500wh battery is basically useless for any of the tasks you're proposing.

Your output limit of 1500w doesn't match the graphic of lights, fans, microwaves, fridges, and hair dryers. And everyone knows it. And no one likes being lied to.

Even worse is your gas generator is only capable of supplying 550w, which is basically a joke as it can't match anywhere close to the rated output. Static loads are going to be higher than the generator output which means the battery as a buffer is basically useless.

For home using, which does be small, but the one should be okay for outdoor using, such as camping etc.

 

[Rednecktek]

550w generator, 1500wh of battery, it would be really underpowered for any appliance use, and it would need to be a lot smaller than the picture implies. I could see uses for it as long as it's price competitive to the cost of a comparable solar generator + gas generator combo.

The 500w gas generatoris really tiny as gas generators go but the .5c charging rate makes sense.

 

[wpns]

Is that a picture or a render? What’s the price (delivered to the US)?

 

[pollenface]

I like the idea. Where can I buy one?

 

[Q-Dog]

For it to be useful to most americans it should be able to run any load they might want to run from a standard 15 amp house outlet. That means it would need about 2000 watts continuous output and decent surge ability.

(I know my neighbors would want to run their air fryer or microwave -- because they already asked me what they would need to be able to do that)

 

[Supervstech]

This is a totally new innovation battery station, the built in 1500Wh battery can storage the power from solar panel&gasoline generator.
Very easy to connect by solar panel, and simple operation for the gasoline generator.
Anyone would like this one?

1. Dual Power Sources: Seamlessly integrates solar energy, gasoline, and mains electricity. Prioritizes solar/wind charging (eco-friendly) while offering gasoline backup for uninterrupted power.
2. High Efficiency & Flexibility:
   • Output options: 220V/600W, 110V/600W, 220V/1500W, 110V/1500W.
   • Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery: Safe, durable, and compatible with solar, wind, Type-C, and gasoline charging.
   • Gasoline Generator: 40cc engine, 550W max power, and 2.2L fuel tank (generates 1000–1200Wh per liter).
3. Smart Automation: Automatically switches to solar/wind or gasoline charging when the battery drops below 20%, ensuring continuous operation.
4. Portable & User-Friendly: Compact design with multiple outputs (AC/DC12V/USB/Type-C), ideal for camping, emergencies, construction sites, and off-grid use.

• Auto Start/Stop: Generator halts when the battery is fully charged, saving fuel.
• Rugged Safety Protocols: Includes polarity protection, fuel spill prevention, and overheating alerts.
• Easy Maintenance: Clear guidelines for fuel/oil changes, filter cleaning, and long-term storage.
• Emergency Backup: Critical support during blackouts or natural disasters.
• Remote Work Sites: Reliable energy for tools and equipment in off-grid locations.

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Since advertising is not allowed on this site, i assume you are asking for volunteers to be sent a free product for testing and opinions.

I have several complaints from the listed specs.
1. 220V is not a US standard voltage. We use 240V here.
2. 110 is not a standard voltage, we use 120 to 125 Volts here.
3. 1500Wh is too small for a basic portable power unit.
4. The output of this unit is limited to below what most appliances require. Microwaves and refrigerators need startup headroom above 2000W, especially when limited to 110V.

 

[wpns]

As Product Research I think Rita's got lots of feedback. Not sure I see it as a sales exhortation, but then I don't really see it as an extant product.

 

[Rita Nie]

Thanks for all feedback, this is not advertisement, I'm not selling the item here. Just share some new innovation here

 

[wpns]

Conceptually it's an interesting idea, though personally I'd want something modular, as getting it all in one box with the power requirements for the North American market would make a pretty big and heavy product.

If it's small then don't worry about 240V (split phase), as there are not many 240V 600W or 1100W loads.

As others have said, it's kind of unbalanced. You need 1500W or more, but that battery will only last an hour, and the generator will take 2 hours to charge the battery (or make it last 1.5 hours).

Make it higher power, modular, and inexpensive enough, and you might have some competition for "solar generators".

 

[Supervstech]

I agree, focus on making a quality 120V power station, then design a small generator to charge it with a single cable that can be placed remotely.

Heck, with the right cale, i can see the small generator being a better seller than the power station.

 

[wpns]

Heck, with the right cale, i can see the small generator being a better seller than the power station.

Interfaces to other mfr power stations with voltage-based automatic start/stop? Parallel cable sets so you can buy as much charge power as you want?

If it’s 48V and cheap enough it might compete with my Honda Eu3000 and ChargeVerter setup. Fuel has a hard time competing with solar/batteries, see the other thread for a KWHR/Gallon metric.

 

[50ShadesOfDirt]

Your design seems similar to what we call a solar generator (inverter/charger/mppt, battery-bank, plug/port panel) with the inclusion of a fuel generator. It was hard for me to comment on your "box", as I had no documentation to go by, only a single pic.

Clean-sheet wise, and using other vendors' models as "conceptual items" in the following ... you'd develop your own, or make deals to get them into your design. Use what you want from this, and throw away the rest, if sticking with your box, but at least make the box a "framework of plug-in parts".

system/frame:
- Have a rolling/stacking (layer) system, or at very least, a framework of cube parts that plug in.
- each item (generator, inverter, battery-bank) is a layer on the stack, or plugs into the cube framework
- ensure easy repair, replacement of each layer or plug-in item as you develop them
- ensure easy FRU capability (you have the parts, we just plug them in, or replace the entire layer)

Battery-bank ... minimum 12v100ah LiFePO4:
- battery-bank on bottom for stability
- you have a starting point (base layer, two 12v100ah battery ... room for more)
- we can add our own LiFePO4 12v100ah batteries
- all bms's talk open protocol to inverter and/or external comm to software
- battery-bank drives all loads, generator is just to recharge battery-bank when low, so it doesn't provide

Generator ... a westinghouse wgen or igen multi-fuel generator:
- another layer or plug-in item
- propane, auto-start/choke, smart ATS port (move to controls layer), remote key fob
- Propane is less messy, no carburetor problems, and fuel lasts forever
- generator is one layer of cube (for easy repair), or make it plug into a frame
- thd of less than 5%
- power to drive internal charging only, it recharges battery-bank

Inverter ... minimum 24v (two 12v batteries, maxed out pattern is 2s2p):
- another layer or plug-in item
- 3000kw
- drives output panel of US nema plugs, etc.
- AC in, optional AC out (wiring option)
- firmware is field-installable, no OTA or support-only mechanisms; we just download and install via usb port

Again, everything must be repairable, with FRU parts, because this won't be sent back to country of origin for repair (too bulky, heavy, fuel-based). Or, ensure you have a US warehouse that can send out FRU parts, or receive in the entire unit if necessary).

Solar Generators have always left many of us hanging with their low-capacity parts ... instead of a standard 12v100ah battery, they've got some small-capacity, proprietary battery. It's why we build our own solar generator, it just isn't as sleek and packaged as your unit is, or their existing units are. But, we always get exactly what we want, because we built it ourselves.

Hope this helps!

 

[Chicat]

I have been using the Ecoflow Delta Pro with 7200 watt hours and 1600 watts of solar input. Runs our 30 amp RV and can charge our house system batteries on a cloudy day if needed.
Not bad for 1800 dollars

 

[jorby]

I think having the vibrating generator and batteries in the same package is a bad idea.

 

[Chicat]

I think having the vibrating generator and batteries in the same package is a bad idea.

The EcoFlo is a Solar generator, no moving parts except the fan, and recharges in about 2 hours with solar

 

[Rita Nie]

Your design seems similar to what we call a solar generator (inverter/charger/mppt, battery-bank, plug/port panel) with the inclusion of a fuel generator. It was hard for me to comment on your "box", as I had no documentation to go by, only a single pic.

Clean-sheet wise, and using other vendors' models as "conceptual items" in the following ... you'd develop your own, or make deals to get them into your design. Use what you want from this, and throw away the rest, if sticking with your box, but at least make the box a "framework of plug-in parts".

system/frame:
- Have a rolling/stacking (layer) system, or at very least, a framework of cube parts that plug in.
- each item (generator, inverter, battery-bank) is a layer on the stack, or plugs into the cube framework
- ensure easy repair, replacement of each layer or plug-in item as you develop them
- ensure easy FRU capability (you have the parts, we just plug them in, or replace the entire layer)

Battery-bank ... minimum 12v100ah LiFePO4:
- battery-bank on bottom for stability
- you have a starting point (base layer, two 12v100ah battery ... room for more)
- we can add our own LiFePO4 12v100ah batteries
- all bms's talk open protocol to inverter and/or external comm to software
- battery-bank drives all loads, generator is just to recharge battery-bank when low, so it doesn't provide

Generator ... a westinghouse wgen or igen multi-fuel generator:
- another layer or plug-in item
- propane, auto-start/choke, smart ATS port (move to controls layer), remote key fob
- Propane is less messy, no carburetor problems, and fuel lasts forever
- generator is one layer of cube (for easy repair), or make it plug into a frame
- thd of less than 5%
- power to drive internal charging only, it recharges battery-bank

Inverter ... minimum 24v (two 12v batteries, maxed out pattern is 2s2p):
- another layer or plug-in item
- 3000kw
- drives output panel of US nema plugs, etc.
- AC in, optional AC out (wiring option)
- firmware is field-installable, no OTA or support-only mechanisms; we just download and install via usb port

Again, everything must be repairable, with FRU parts, because this won't be sent back to country of origin for repair (too bulky, heavy, fuel-based). Or, ensure you have a US warehouse that can send out FRU parts, or receive in the entire unit if necessary).

Solar Generators have always left many of us hanging with their low-capacity parts ... instead of a standard 12v100ah battery, they've got some small-capacity, proprietary battery. It's why we build our own solar generator, it just isn't as sleek and packaged as your unit is, or their existing units are. But, we always get exactly what we want, because we built it ourselves.

Hope this helps!

Good, I think you need one real device to do test

 

[jorby]

Good, I think you need one real device to do test

Send him one.

 

[Rita Nie]

Send him one.

If anyone is interested in testing the device, pls send me message

 

[jorby]

The EcoFlo is a Solar generator, no moving parts except the fan, and recharges in about 2 hours with solar

I was commenting about the product with the generator in it

 

[jorby]

Looking at the image of this thing, I see multiple outlets on it, but agree that is should be 120vac only because of the 1500w maximum capacity.